Pakistani army in Pashtun heartland Waziristan

[Qawal]

Waziristan is a part of Pakistan, no matter which ethnic group lives there.

That's it !!

I don't care if its from Afghanistan or Pakistan its owned by muslims and pak army is a corrupt and unislamic army it doesn't belongs in Waziristan.

[AfghanResistance]

khyber pukhtunkhwa, FATA and balouchistan need to fight for their independence from punjabi domination. We have been classed as second class citizens but when india comes knocking on pakistans doors the pukhtana are thrown on the front lines as hero's. Most pukhtana are brain washed by the idea of being pakistani when if they read their own history they will soon realise that they have been used and abused.

This is why whether we re-join with Afghanistan or not we definitely need to establish complete independence from the state of pakistan. We have given 60 odd years to pakistan to treat our people and lands as equal to punjabis or punjabi lands. Every rupee that is spent is spent on punjab and its people. When you go to our areas its like one has gone back in time a hundred years because of lack of financial assistance and therefore zero development. There has never been an equal distribution of wealth i.e. government expenditure on khyber pukhtunkhwa and balouchistan.

They rob our natural resources and fill their own pockets and spend on their own people. They have built two huge dams and others currently being built in our areas, they have taken the land by force of people who have lived their for thousand of years, displaced and displacing millions and in return they makes us into fools, they supply the electricity from the hydro dams to punjab?. They have created a water irrigation system in Malakand that diverts essential water from the local areas where it is need and is diverted to punjab to feed their own lands and people over there.

Did you know that over 400 schools in swat alone have been bombed and destroyed by the pakistan army and then claimed the taliban destroyed the schools. Did you also know that every single school (of over 400) that were destroyed were never built by pakistan in the first place. in fact they were built at the time of wali swat with the money collected from the pashtun people of swat when it was an independent state from pakistan. people from the village would put money together and build a school for their village or area. did you know that some schools for propaganda purposes were touched up, not re constructed and this was done by forced labour on those people that were held suspects. even when material was required they would utilise the rocks and wood from the very same houses they had destroyed and to the world they were trying to show some sort of an effort. you may fool the world but you wont fool us any more.

They have imposed their national anthem on us and we make our children singing it aloud every morning at school. we should be ashamed, even the kurds are fighting for their rights and we are still asleep like everything is ok. They teach our children 60 years of their coward history and our history of 5000 years is no where to be seen and therefore is systematically eradicated from minds of our new generation.

look at bajaur the military left nothing erect and yet no reconstruction in sight. They have forced their own language urdu upon us in schools and emphasis is never on pukhto, the language of our forefathers. They have even annexed the northern part of Gilgit and made it independent. look at northern punjab this was at one time part of khyber punkhtunkwa upto jehlum. now these areas are classed as punjab. They pay no attention to us and provide no financial assistance for develpment. When ever our people begin to educate themselves they are soon under a milliatry operation by pakistan that displaces millions of our people in order to disrupt the flow of education and prosperity.

If pakistan was really beneficial for our people then why did it take 60 odd years just to rename our province. Did you know the pakistan government refused to accept the name pukhtunistan for our province and it was thrown out every single time in the parliament house. Why? think about it. why would the government refuse a name when it was in the national interest and consensus of the whole of the pukhtun people. Pakistan should be glad, we were not asking for the name to be modified to Afghanistan.

When india comes knocking, pakistan are quick to call out their so called pathan brothers and speak how gallantly the pathans will defend their border. I dont think so!, the very same people you take care off and spend your money on i.e. punjabis call them out to fight your war. our people are naive and have been used and abused to fight Pakistans own backed wars, but no more!.

i hate it when pukhtuns get fooled and start saying leave the border to us we will sort them out. No let the punjabis do their dirty work. An indian general once said if we ever take pakistan we will not enter pashtun areas. This shows they respect us and fear us. We should never fight for this fraudster country. it is this same very country that is bombing and killing our people in waziristan on a daily basis and then they say fight for us?. The very same country that raped and killed innocent muslims in Bangladesh.

We need an intelligent leader who can lead the way. They say you cant fool a fool twice, well our people seem to be fooled on every occasion. did you know that the pakistan army forced everyone in the swat valley to paint their shop shutters with the paki flag. Why dont they tell their dads to paint that flag on shops in punjab? its because they are a racist nation imposing their flags and culture on us. If the pashtuns stand up together and all it takes is a revolution just like the one across the arab world today and these punjabis wont be able to stand in our way. we are the only fully armed nation on the planet and they wouldnt dare confront us.

we have to be very careful of their plans though. in the swat valley when the taliban first emerged they had full support of the people and the pakistan government quickly started peace talks, soon after they were so called taliban that were committing atrocities who were not taliban of any sort but criminal groups funded by the isi to turn the tide. People soon after wanted the army in and thats exactly what happened. when they were no longer in favour of them and resentment was high the army came in with the support of the people this time round.

do you see the tricks of the devil? even when the army came in, many atrocities were committed by the pakistan army greater than those atrocities committed by those whom they had funded i.e. some of the swat taliban. did you know that in swat and bajour when the army came in they would beat innocent suspects and say to them shout out ya ali madad, if they said it quitely they would beat them even harder and they would say to them say it louder. This is the shia and ahmadi paki army, forcing our people to worship a human. do you think this army is ours. i dont think so

This is the reality and if the zionists could achieve a creation of a state even when all the surrounding countries were against them, even then they were successful. We need to regain northern punjab and the northern areas of gilgit, they may not be pukhtuns but these areas were conquered by our forefathers and were ours for thousands of years. we need to reclaim not just pukhtun populated areas but also our lands that were conquered thousands of years ago and have been ours ever since. if you had a house with a huge garden would you allow someone to take the garden off you just because you dont live in the garden. northen areas, plus khyber pukhtunkhwa including northern punjab up to jehlem, plus all of balauchistan. we need to work closely with the baluchs only then will this be possible. also we need to think logically, in todays day and age a country without the sea will never be a great power.

[Shehbaz Khan]

I don't care if its from Afghanistan or Pakistan its owned by muslims and pak army is a corrupt and unislamic army it doesn't belongs in Waziristan.

And what about those corrupt people in Waziristan?

[gadoonwal]

And what about those corrupt people in Waziristan?

why pointing your punjabi gun on few hired malaks of waziris?
what about those millions of punjabi curropt leaders and people?
It was your punjabi govt made them curropt.
You punjabis are the real munafeqeen of this world.
i wonder what ahmad shah abdali got from converting you hindoes to islam.
your punjabi chuadry sahib hired these people in pashtunkhwa to work for them.
The day your army leave our land i hope your ,,tatwaans,,like amir muqom,asfand,fazlu,qazi,saifo and other tatwaans will be stoned to death by patriotic and true pashtuns.
punjabistan is taking last breaths of her life.

[Shehbaz Khan]

^ Umbarak sha if a Punjabi can come from Lahore travel all the way to Waziristan and is able to make you corrupt !!

[khushal]

Waziristan is a part of Pakistan, no matter which ethnic group lives there.

That's it !!

Technically, Waziristan is autonomous. It belongs to no one but the Wazir tribesmen. Thats why we see resistance when the PAk army went in.

[khushal]

And what about those corrupt people in Waziristan?

The Wazir people have the right to handle the corrupt people in waziristan as they see fit. The Pak army has no right to invade wazirstan and tell them how to handle the corruption in waziristan just like the wazir dont have the right to go to Karachi and tell them how to handle their corrupt business.

[Shehbaz Khan]

^ Technically Waziristan isn't autonomous as those elected from Waziristan are sitting in the Pakistani Cabinets/Parliament.

[gadoonwal]

^ Technically Waziristan isn't autonomous as those elected from Waziristan are sitting in the Pakistani Cabinets/Parliament.

they are not represnting waziris.
They are hired servants helping invaders .

[Shehbaz Khan]

^ That's what you think .. They by cast are Wazir and they represent their people in the assemblies of Pakistan.

[afghan]

^ Technically Waziristan isn't autonomous as those elected from Waziristan are sitting in the Pakistani Cabinets/Parliament.

you should know the diffirence between selection and election. since when waziristan had an election?

[MostafaM]

And what is the "Emirate of Waziristan" then?

Part of Pakistan, too?

[MostafaM]

And what Mr. Shadibaz/Shehbaz may have forgotten already.....the Durand Line is a contested border and not recognized by Afghanistan.

[Shehbaz Khan]

And what Mr. Shadibaz/Shehbaz may have forgotten already.....the Durand Line is a contested border and not recognized by Afghanistan.

No.. But I guess you forgot that an Afghan King sold it to the British, so now if the Afghan govt want it's land back they should knock at any international court. They won't be short of lawyers like you.

Secondly you don't recognize the fact that today the whole Pakhtunkhwa and FATA is governed and controlled by the Pakistani Govt.

Manana..

[Shehbaz Khan]

you should know the diffirence between selection and election. since when waziristan had an election?

Whether it's election or selection, it's conducted by the Pakistani Govt.

Regards.