Chelsea And Politics

[Chelsea-Fan]

When innocents die, they always say the enemy used them as human shields, Its just a way to reflect the killing of innocents on to the enemy. They did that during the Osama raid. They first said he used his wife as a human shield than they retracted the statement and said she tried to protect him.
When innocents die during a bombing raid, they call it collateral damage. When innocents die during a suicide bombing, they call it terrorism. Both are terrorism in reality but the latter is reactionary.

You miss the point. The terrorists hide actively themself behind children and women! They always used them as shields. Go to Waziristan and ask the locals. They all will tell you that they were used by Taliban and Al-Qaida soldiers as shields ''in the name of Islam''. Stop explaining to yourself the coward behave of your heroes.

@Master Khan Jana
yes.

[Chelsea-Fan]

Chelsea-fan is Tajiki Nationalist Fascist. If he had the ability he would nuke the pashtuns. Truly ignorant.

Everyone who is anti-Taliban and do not agree with you must be a foreigner, an Iranian, a Tajek, a fascist, a shia or Panjabi

dude, here, at least 100 users are against your views... all of them ''foreigners''

[khushal]

You miss the point. The terrorists hide actively themself behind children and women! They always used them as shields. Go to Waziristan and ask the locals. They all will tell you that they were used by Taliban and Al-Qaida soldiers as shields ''in the name of Islam''. Stop explaining to yourself the coward behave of your heroes.

@Master Khan Jana
yes.

Why dont you go to Waziristan and tell them what you are typing here and if you come out with just a beating and not have your throat sliced, consider yourself lucky.

[khushal]

Everyone who is anti-Taliban and do not agree with you must be a foreigner, an Iranian, a Tajek, a fascist, a shia or Panjabi

dude, here, at least 100 users are against your views... all of them ''foreigners''

You have nothing but hate in your heart. I really dont have any views, I only explain why people do what they do. For example you are spreading your nonsense because of your irrational and insane hate for pashtuns. Get some help and forget this hatred or you will end up in an insane asylum.

[khushal]

I doubt it. You have to first learn how a pakistani talks. You are a tajik nationalist who maybe was abused by a pakistani when you went there as a refugee because your own Tajikistan wouldnt accept you.

[Chelsea-Fan]

I doubt it. You have to first learn how a pakistani talks. You are a tajik nationalist who maybe was abused by a pakistani when you went there as a refugee because your own Tajikistan wouldnt accept you.

hahaha alright. Whatever. Dude, 160Mio Pakistanis are against you Taliban, all those Tajeks are against you Taliban, your newly Iranian friends are against your heroes... the ENTIRE WORLD IS AGAINST YOUR HEROES. The entire world is TAJEK. What I know and for that every Pakistani give honour to Tajeks that Tajiks have the most important role in our history and region! Nearly all saints in Pakistan were Tajiks (including the spiritual leaders of your terrorist heroes), Ghooris and Ghaznavian were Tajek and Tajek like people, some of our heroes that you are proud of and call them as father of Pakhtu were in fact Tajeks but as a hypocrite Taliban and an uneducated person you are still far away from reality.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

hahaha alright. Whatever. Dude, 160Mio Pakistanis are against you Taliban, all those Tajeks are against you Taliban, your newly Iranian friends are against your heroes... the ENTIRE WORLD IS AGAINST YOUR HEROES. The entire world is TAJEK. What I know and for that every Pakistani give honour to Tajeks that Tajiks have the most important role in our history and region! Nearly all saints in Pakistan were Tajiks (including the spiritual leaders of your terrorist heroes), Ghooris and Ghaznavian were Tajek and Tajek like people, some of our heroes that you are proud of and call them as father of Pakhtu were in fact Tajeks but as a hypocrite Taliban and an uneducated person you are still far away from reality.

The greater the odds, the greater the glory compadre. Whats the fun in using these genes built to resist invaders when the odds are stacked in our favor? We Pashtuns prefer a challenge.

[Chelsea-Fan]

The greater the odds, the greater the glory compadre. Whats the fun in using these genes built to resist invaders when the odds are stacked in our favor? We Pashtuns prefer a challenge.

''Reists''? Step down from your horse.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

''Reists''? Step down from your horse.

Why? Its so much more fun to ride than it is to step down off it.

[khushal]

hahaha alright. Whatever. Dude, 160Mio Pakistanis are against you Taliban, all those Tajeks are against you Taliban, your newly Iranian friends are against your heroes... the ENTIRE WORLD IS AGAINST YOUR HEROES. The entire world is TAJEK. What I know and for that every Pakistani give honour to Tajeks that Tajiks have the most important role in our history and region! Nearly all saints in Pakistan were Tajiks (including the spiritual leaders of your terrorist heroes), Ghooris and Ghaznavian were Tajek and Tajek like people, some of our heroes that you are proud of and call them as father of Pakhtu were in fact Tajeks but as a hypocrite Taliban and an uneducated person you are still far away from reality.

You forgot to mention that Bush and Obama are also Tajiks...............Kabulzada

[Chelsea-Fan]

You forgot to mention that Bush and Obama are also Tajiks...............Kabulzada

I said to you that the entire world must be Tajeks because they fight Taliban

[khushal]

Nope not the entire world. You have been already caught in your deception in your other thread. Your Kabulzada

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/taliban-explain-ahmad-walis-killing-19108/index3.html

America is not losing the war. They are going outg of money butthey will go nowhere. Everyone who studied american history knows that they will be still for the next 25years a world power with long arms around the globe. America´s 33000 soldiers are just a small reaction of that. Afghanistan is not the only country where they are active. South Korea, Vitnam, middle and eastern Europe, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and in many more countries. Their withdraw will be limited to 33000 men and women and they will move to the north because they do not see any reasons more to fight in the south against Taliban since Taliban are welcomed by most people. You guys read articles of this excelent Indian writer but do not understand it´s essence. Most of you are either to hard manipulated by the idea of Talibanism or you are to uneducated to see reality. We are not talking here about Andorra or Hawaiian country, we are talking here about powerful nations who have a lot to say and you will follow their dictates like a dog. That´s reality. Do you think anyone is interested in an Afghanistan in the hands of Taliban? Your own non-Pakhtun neighbours are reforming themself against theTaliban. American will support them and in return they will buy their ''tickets'' to pump for oil and gas. After Obama another american president will take his place. 43 presidents to day had America and not a single of them had ever preached peace. Everyone of them fought their wars.

Grow up. Get educated. Accept the civilised world. Get integrated and go for education, a better life, a wife, a house and children. Accept this or accept death along your brothers. Today, we are kept backwardwe sell outself while other people go to moon. Whose faults is it? Your enemies faults or that of your own? Of course of our own. Instead going to schools to foreigners and become servants. We serve everyone, except ourself. You chose your fate. Either you step to the side of those who are the winners or those who will lose. Very easy. If you can not chose between one side than shut up, stop writing non-senses behind your PC under a pseudonym. If you are such a good warrior, Taliban, terrorist and fighter, why do you live in a country that have ''invaded' your country? Where is your honour, your Taliban pride? Here we can see the real face of a Taliban. Beeing the greatest hyocrite and a coward.

deera manana aw allah hafiz

See I told you that your a Sick Tajik nationalist. When you are talking about Afghans, you say "WE" and "OURSELF" and "OWN". If you were Pakistani you would not use such words and also if you were Pakistani your English and spelling would be a lot better, your English and your spelling sucks.
It is you who is a hypocrite and a coward like your hero Masood.
Ex-Soviet commander unveil Masoud's secret pact

It is you who is backwards and sell yourself just like your hero who sold himself and his people to the CIA, The ISI, Iran, India, Soviets until there was no buyer.
You have your head up your *ss so deep that its pathetic, you dont even think before you type.

[Chelsea-Fan]

We Ask Taliban To Spare Our Schools

By Ashfaq Yusufzai

PESHAWAR, Jan 28, 2009 (IPS) - "My school was destroyed by (Pakistani) Taliban. I won’t be able to go back to it," says Sumaira bibi, a grade 5 student from Matta in Swat district.

Scores of schools and other government buildings have been blown up over the past two years, in Swat, Bajaur and Mohmand, restive parts of Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) as the Taliban seek to impose a radical Islam and challenge the authority of the government.

In late 2007, Islamabad retaliated by launching military operations that have led to an exodus of displaced civilians.

Eleven-year-old Sumaira and her family now live in a tent in Kacha Garhi, an erstwhile camp for Afghan refugees in Peshawar, the NWFP capital city. She says schooling was free in Swat, and she used to study in a government primary school.

Last week, five more Swat schools were bombed - all at night during the daily curfew. These are: the boys high school in Tauheedabad, the girls high school and boys primary school in Banr, the high school in Engaro Dheri and the boys primary school in Mingora, the administrative headquarters of Swat district.

The Swat Taliban - outlawed groups like Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi and Tehrik-e-Taliban - have warned that girls will not be allowed to go to school after Jan. 15. Schools in the high mountain region are due to open on Mar. 22, after a long winter vacation.

On Jan. 25, the provincial government decided to post army and paramilitary troops outside schools in Mingora to provide security.

"We will make all arrangements to make sure that the students continue their education", Mian Iftikhar Hussain, information minister in the Awami National Party (ANP)-led provincial government, told IPS.

Like their Afghan counterparts, Taliban here have targetted schools, shops selling music and films, and stopped barbers from shaving beards.

"The militants have been throwing the girls’ students to the Stone Age by burning and bombing their schools while the government has become a silent spectator," says Jalal Khan, principal of a Swat-based school.

Last year, Taliban destroyed 162 girls’ schools in Swat, which until two years ago was a famous skiing destination. Roughly 88 boys’ schools have been torched during this time.

Parents have been warned against sending their daughters to "un-Islamic" schools. On Jan. 20, Pakistan’s National Assembly in Islamabad passed a resolution that condemned the "ban" imposed by militants on girls’ education and destruction of schools in Swat.

Other affected districts in NWFP are Mardan, Lakki Marwat, Bannu, Kohat, Dera Ismail Khan and Peshawar where schools were attacked with the purpose of scaring away the girls from seeking education.

"This reminds one of the Afghan Taliban, who had banned women’s education and doctors and nurses in Afghanistan," says Dr Ashraf Ali, an authority on the Taliban. He sees the roots of the problem in the government’s inability to protect its schools.

Moreover, some 40 schools have been occupied by the army in Swat depriving roughly 10,000 students of their education for the past one-year.

Three months after they came to power in elections last February, the NWFP government had inked a peace agreement with the Swat Taliban on May 21. The Islamic fighters had given an assurance that they would not oppose girls’ education.

But the deal was shortlived, and girl students are paying the price. The NWFP has the lowest female literacy in Pakistan.

Hundreds of female students in Mardan have switched to wearing the veil after threats from the Taliban. "The militants had threatened to cut the throat of any girl above seven years who was not veiled on the street," says Bakht Jehan, a schoolteacher.

In the semi-tribal area, Darra Adamkhel, NWFP, militants destroyed 10 government schools and two colleges since December.

"The militants’ attacks on army and police are understandable but the burning of schools is beyond comprehension," says Shaukat Ali, district coordination officer (DCO), Swat.

Ten elected parliamentarians have stopped visiting Swat out of fear.

Nadir Shah, who runs a private girls’ school, believes the Taliban are in charge of Swat.

"On Thursday (Jan. 22), they killed a teacher and hanged his body from an electricity pole in Mingora," he says. The teacher had refused to follow their dress code, he adds. The Taliban want all men to wear traditional clothes and grow their beards.

"The government’s writ is fast slipping into militants’ hands. The military launched an operation in November 2007 but the Taliban have gained strength since," observes Dr Said Alam Mahsud, provincial leader of the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party.

"We ask the Taliban to spare our schools," says Pari Shah, a resident of Swat now in Kacha Garhi camp.

A grade 3 student, she says she loved her school. "Now, I have not only lost my school but the company of all my classmates," she says sadly.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I said to you that the entire world must be Tajeks because they fight Taliban

On my parting word to you, I will advise only the following:
If your culture, your history, your accomplishments (and trust me the Tajiks and Uzbeks and the Turks have done a great deal) matter to you, reconsider your approach. There need not be a Pashtun domination over you; your autonomy is your right. However, you should be cautious and understand that no foreign invader, save that of Cyrus the Persian, ever benefited the invaded before he reaped benefits for himself. Look at Mubarak, Hussein, Qaddafi, Ben Ali etc .... all examples for you in your own life. In this Ramadan, reflect on the fate of these collaborators. Each of them thought that they were smart, brilliant, and savvy enough to play the Empire game and somehow build a new Arab world modeled off modernism. Yet the same hand that fed the dog was the same hand that put it down.

Take note of what Lenin and his sick compatriots did to your home nations and how the people there, as opposed to in Northern Afghanistan, are starving and suffering for their right. They preserved Islam against the Red onslaught.

These same men that you note, Ghaznavi and others, would they have welcomed a completely foreign invader into their territory to accomplish their goals? An invader with a track record of betrayal (see the experience of the American Red Indian) and of intrigue (the leaders I mentioned above in addtional to Diem in Vietnam) should hardly gain your trust.

Do you think that you are smarter than the Japanese? They have yet to extricate themselves, even though they chafe against the Empire in Okinawa... Are you smarter than the Germans? They were the leaders of science and far head of you and yet the bases remain as do the economic dictates.

Your own destiny can only be driven by you. If it is Pakistan you fear, then have none. The same group of people that throw out super powers can deal with Pakistan rather easily.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

By Ashfaq Yusufzai

PESHAWAR, Jan 28, 2009 (IPS) - "My school was destroyed by (Pakistani) Taliban. I won’t be able to go back to it," says Sumaira bibi, a grade 5 student from Matta in Swat district.

Scores of schools and other government buildings have been blown up over the past two years, in Swat, Bajaur and Mohmand, restive parts of Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) as the Taliban seek to impose a radical Islam and challenge the authority of the government.

In late 2007, Islamabad retaliated by launching military operations that have led to an exodus of displaced civilians.

Eleven-year-old Sumaira and her family now live in a tent in Kacha Garhi, an erstwhile camp for Afghan refugees in Peshawar, the NWFP capital city. She says schooling was free in Swat, and she used to study in a government primary school.

Last week, five more Swat schools were bombed - all at night during the daily curfew. These are: the boys high school in Tauheedabad, the girls high school and boys primary school in Banr, the high school in Engaro Dheri and the boys primary school in Mingora, the administrative headquarters of Swat district.

The Swat Taliban - outlawed groups like Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi and Tehrik-e-Taliban - have warned that girls will not be allowed to go to school after Jan. 15. Schools in the high mountain region are due to open on Mar. 22, after a long winter vacation.

On Jan. 25, the provincial government decided to post army and paramilitary troops outside schools in Mingora to provide security.

"We will make all arrangements to make sure that the students continue their education", Mian Iftikhar Hussain, information minister in the Awami National Party (ANP)-led provincial government, told IPS.

Like their Afghan counterparts, Taliban here have targetted schools, shops selling music and films, and stopped barbers from shaving beards.

"The militants have been throwing the girls’ students to the Stone Age by burning and bombing their schools while the government has become a silent spectator," says Jalal Khan, principal of a Swat-based school.

Last year, Taliban destroyed 162 girls’ schools in Swat, which until two years ago was a famous skiing destination. Roughly 88 boys’ schools have been torched during this time.

Parents have been warned against sending their daughters to "un-Islamic" schools. On Jan. 20, Pakistan’s National Assembly in Islamabad passed a resolution that condemned the "ban" imposed by militants on girls’ education and destruction of schools in Swat.

Other affected districts in NWFP are Mardan, Lakki Marwat, Bannu, Kohat, Dera Ismail Khan and Peshawar where schools were attacked with the purpose of scaring away the girls from seeking education.

"This reminds one of the Afghan Taliban, who had banned women’s education and doctors and nurses in Afghanistan," says Dr Ashraf Ali, an authority on the Taliban. He sees the roots of the problem in the government’s inability to protect its schools.

Moreover, some 40 schools have been occupied by the army in Swat depriving roughly 10,000 students of their education for the past one-year.

Three months after they came to power in elections last February, the NWFP government had inked a peace agreement with the Swat Taliban on May 21. The Islamic fighters had given an assurance that they would not oppose girls’ education.

But the deal was shortlived, and girl students are paying the price. The NWFP has the lowest female literacy in Pakistan.

Hundreds of female students in Mardan have switched to wearing the veil after threats from the Taliban. "The militants had threatened to cut the throat of any girl above seven years who was not veiled on the street," says Bakht Jehan, a schoolteacher.

In the semi-tribal area, Darra Adamkhel, NWFP, militants destroyed 10 government schools and two colleges since December.

"The militants’ attacks on army and police are understandable but the burning of schools is beyond comprehension," says Shaukat Ali, district coordination officer (DCO), Swat.

Ten elected parliamentarians have stopped visiting Swat out of fear.

Nadir Shah, who runs a private girls’ school, believes the Taliban are in charge of Swat.

"On Thursday (Jan. 22), they killed a teacher and hanged his body from an electricity pole in Mingora," he says. The teacher had refused to follow their dress code, he adds. The Taliban want all men to wear traditional clothes and grow their beards.

"The government’s writ is fast slipping into militants’ hands. The military launched an operation in November 2007 but the Taliban have gained strength since," observes Dr Said Alam Mahsud, provincial leader of the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party.

"We ask the Taliban to spare our schools," says Pari Shah, a resident of Swat now in Kacha Garhi camp.

A grade 3 student, she says she loved her school. "Now, I have not only lost my school but the company of all my classmates," she says sadly.

Once again, treat the disease, not the symptom. They were not blowing up schools in the NWFP until a certain super power decided to park its tanks right next door and a certain nation decided to allow supply lines through it while simultaneously sending young tribesmen to certain death across the border. Remove the disease (NATO) and you will see these events decrease or at least the power paradigm shift in Pakistan.