shame full silence on both side of durandline over pashtun genocides ,

[Catya Sher]

Yes, I gave the proof.

He COULD absolutely have said "I decline to answer"
"I have to think about that'

But NO. He confidently assured them that they could keep on
with their negative activities, because he, the representative
of Pashtuns in Exile in Canada,
was giving NATO a Green Light to proceed,
since Pashtuns need only fear the ISI.
No one says Pakistan is an angel,
but they are not blasting Afghanistan into shreds the
way America and its best collaborator Canada have done
HAPPILY, enjoying killing like it's hunting for deer.

Their record is shameful.
Why did one man with a conscience have to commit suicide
to reconcile himself with the evil he was forced to do
in US Rangers?
The truth is obvious
but
Anti-Amir is protecting THEM.

Further he has no honor whatsoever to speak to a woman who he
knows nothing about
like he did.
What a jerk.

[Catya Sher]

How wildly slanted this Anti-Amir is
is apparent in his
wide-eyed admiration for NATO
"They will leave with humility"
HUMILITY????
When has NATO ever demonstrated
by word or deed an ounce of humility
toward a Muslim nation or people?

Toward the USSR, of course humiliity is not
necessary. This is what NATO was founded for.
Not attacking Muslim nations which are
near energy-rich areas for North American
gluttonous energy needs
and lying to the world that it was a war
of "SELF-DEFENSE" ---

If someone can't see how ARROGANT the current
power cliques in America and Canada in fact ARE,
there is something seriously wrong with their
ability to analyse political policies.

Time to take down the shingle, Mr Mafia Gang, and work on
belief in Allah [swt]
Stop preening as
Mr Political Science Expert.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Yes, I gave the proof.

He COULD absolutely have said "I decline to answer"
"I have to think about that'

But NO. He confidently assured them that they could keep on
with their negative activities, because he, the representative
of Pashtuns in Exile in Canada,
was giving NATO a Green Light to proceed,
since Pashtuns need only fear the ISI.
No one says Pakistan is an angel,
but they are not blasting Afghanistan into shreds the
way America and its best collaborator Canada have done
HAPPILY, enjoying killing like it's hunting for deer.

Their record is shameful.
Why did one man with a conscience have to commit suicide
to reconcile himself with the evil he was forced to do
in US Rangers?
The truth is obvious
but
Anti-Amir is protecting THEM.

Further he has no honor whatsoever to speak to a woman who he
knows nothing about
like he did.
What a jerk.

******* child of an Ottoman Harem,

I see that besides denying the identity of the Kurds and the genocides of Armenians, your Turkish education has also denied you logic.

I will explain this again, because much like a child must be told several times not to poke at a dog, I will remind you again you are speaking to a man intellectually superior. Stay in your lane.

When the question, "who is more dangerous" is posed, it does not take away the danger from either option. It simply asks, what is the greater challenge, the greater danger.

I answered well, the ISI is the greater danger. This does not mean that NATO isnt a threat, but its not the biggest threat. The other side of the debate, responded...well then, if the ISI is the greater threat, then why would you not support NATO? Why would you be against the war?

And my response was simple. First, when you have two enemies, you take care of one first then the other. First we take care of NATO. By resisting them, and opposing their war. THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THE SECOND, GREATER ENEMY.

Furthermore, we true sons of the soil, KNOW VERY CLEARLY that the ISI is in many ways an EXTENSION of NATO. So first we deal with the foreigners, who are based THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY, then we deal with the immediate near threat.

Does this make sense to you aborted fetuses?

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

How wildly slanted this Anti-Amir is
is apparent in his
wide-eyed admiration for NATO
"They will leave with humility"
HUMILITY????
When has NATO ever demonstrated
by word or deed an ounce of humility
toward a Muslim nation or people?

Toward the USSR, of course humiliity is not
necessary. This is what NATO was founded for.
Not attacking Muslim nations which are
near energy-rich areas for North American
gluttonous energy needs
and lying to the world that it was a war
of "SELF-DEFENSE" ---

If someone can't see how ARROGANT the current
power cliques in America and Canada in fact ARE,
there is something seriously wrong with their
ability to analyse political policies.

Time to take down the shingle, Mr Mafia Gang, and work on
belief in Allah [swt]
Stop preening as
Mr Political Science Expert.

Much like endless stretch of Yonge St, your stupidity knows no bounds.

When I say NATO will leave with humility, it means the resistance will humble them. Not, that they will leave with flowers and kisses for all.

Once again, the fact that you ARE CONSISTENTLY MISUNDERSTANDING MY POINT, WHICH IS AN ANTI OCCUPATION ANTI FOREIGNER POINT, PROVES WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING THIS LEVEL OF ANALYSIS

You are attempting to speak Arabic with me, when all you can do is grunt and moan

[KingKhan]

Guys/gals please stop derailing this thread to be an attack on "The Amir" this thread is supposed to be about the genocide of Pashtuns in KP/FATA

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Guys/gals please stop derailing this thread to be an attack on "The Amir" this thread is supposed to be about the genocide of Pashtuns in KP/FATA

Well this is part of the problem, wrora.

Our people, constantly suffer from a lack of political understanding.

They think in black and white terms.

Thats why we are FUKKKED today.

Because it was COMMIES=BAD, MUJAHIDS=GOOD

then it became TALIBAN=GOOD, MUJAHIDS=BAD,

then it was TALIBS=BAD, OTHERS=GOOD

and now, its TALIBS=BAD

thats why we CONSISTENTLY GET MANIPULATED AND USED because other MORE ADVANCED, MORE POLITICALLY CALCULATED ACTORS use our stupidity and naivety to their advantage

[KingKhan]

So whose the biggest killer of Pakhtuns: ISI, or NATO?


Who knows ISI is killing Pakhtuns all over KP/FATA. They obviously have a hand in the Karachi violence.

NATO is killing Pakhtuns all over Afg/FATA.

The answer?

[graveyardofempires]

So whose the biggest killer of Pakhtuns: ISI, or NATO?


Who knows ISI is killing Pakhtuns all over KP/FATA. They obviously have a hand in the Karachi violence.

NATO is killing Pakhtuns all over Afg/FATA.

The answer?

Both are,but this amir failed cuz he said that ISI is which means we need NATO to fight the Taliban which according to him are ISI agents.

[KingKhan]

Both are,but this amir failed cuz he said that ISI is which means we need NATO to fight the Taliban which according to him are ISI agents.

Alot of Afghans believe Pakistan is helping the Taliban.


When I ask how, and why?

The answer is because who is supplying them with the marmeys/topek's? I get them back by saying why would Pakistan support Taliban, then still continue to do operations all over FATA? That doesn't make sense.

I get stumped on this one. Where do they get their weaponry? Would like to hear from GOE, and Amir.

[graveyardofempires]

Alot of Afghans believe Pakistan is helping the Taliban.


When I ask how, and why?

The answer is because who is supplying them with the marmeys/topek's?

I get stumped on this one. Where do they get their weaponry? Would like to hear from GOE, and Amir.

i dont believ ein that theory,it is possible that pakistan has infilterated taliban to corrupt their organistion btu to say that taliban are ISI agents is totally false.

this lie was created to justify the war and delegitimize any resistance as foreign supported.

the money and weapons are not good arguments cuz there are alot of ways,such as in nuristan they took over a base and seized tons of weapons and dont forget the illegal gun markets in Pukhtunkhwa plus the Afghan army is selling them weapons.

[KingKhan]

Bomb attacks take toll on Peshawar - YouTube

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Alot of Afghans believe Pakistan is helping the Taliban.


When I ask how, and why?

The answer is because who is supplying them with the marmeys/topek's? I get them back by saying why would Pakistan support Taliban, then still continue to do operations all over FATA? That doesn't make sense.

I get stumped on this one. Where do they get their weaponry? Would like to hear from GOE, and Amir.

Please never again ask for any answers or insight on anything political from Graveyard. He will lead you on the road to Stupidville and will leave you stranded there.

First of all there is no such thing as anti Pakistan Taliban. The TTP operate openly in the qibail areas. The Pakistani army know where they are. If the Pakistani army wanted to liquidate these groups they could

In this day and age, it is inconcievable that we can accept that there are armed groups operating in Pakistan that allegedly receive RAW support but the Army moves so impotently against them.

Not a single Pakistani army operation against militants was comprehensive or efficient. It consisted of, announcing it well ahead of time, shelling the shiiit out of the place, and then "coming to the rescue"

The Pakistani army, apparently, was incapable of jamming Mullah Fazlullahs radio signals. They let him operate with impunity. Same with Hakimullah, same with Mangal Bagh Afridi.

These are all assets. They are designed to "Act up" from time to time, to give the world a facade, that Pakistan "suffers from the same problem", to disguise its own ambitions and interests in Afghanistan, to rally the Pakistani nation around the army, to sideline Pashtun nationalists, and to create a new structure for the Qibail moving forward, hence the targeted liquidation of Tribal Maliks

[KingKhan]

Amir

That makes sense, but also doesn't make sense. It makes some sense for Pakistan create and fight TTP, so they can get Americans off their back. But, doesnt make sense for the average Talib, and Pak soldier to fight each other, knowing it's all some sick game.

Waziristan Operation Part-4 - YouTube

Waziristan Operation Part-6 - YouTube

This is from Pak army operation in N Waziristan 2004

[Catya Sher]

I got bored with this ANTI-Amir [no Afghan Amir would ever
act like this, toward anyone - he could
only be from the SLAVE DYNASTY -
Qutbuddin Aimak and all that. Probably a eunuch in the harem
known for interference in politics with no real life experience.]

GYE talks the most sense of almost anyone on this Forum.

This Slave Dynasty Slave is so reverent toward the NATO occupiers
that besides giving them the accolade of
humility -
where it is LEAST deserved -
he quotes some totally unknown Matt Waldman or whatever -
why would any Western observer know more about the Taliban
than they themselves??
I wouldn't believe a word that guy wrote.
Read up on the Taliban's OWN press sites to gain a better understanding
of who they are.
But to base an entire case on this author who could be a pseudonym even
is crazy.

Furthermore, as far as being PashtunLIKE, faye is more of a true Pashtun
type even with all her liberal ideas and sometimes problematic arguments.
At least she can see clearly who is in the wrong in the war in the Afghan theater.
At least she is DEFIANT

This Slave Dynasty Slave is the most servile person imaginable.

He committed what I see as a heinous crime to give
NATO the Green Light to go perpetrate more atrocities.

Why? because NATO specialists do not go read sites like this
to find out "the Pashtun opinion".
They rely on one quick answer one day from one semi-Pashtun
in a TV encounter to then legitimate all their further
policy recommendations and studies advocating
a perpetual or at least prolonged military occupation of Afghanistan
and perhaps the entire region if easy enough to grab.

In short, if there are enough representatives like this man,
they figure what's the problem? These people are patsies,
all Canada-America has to do is stick to their guns literally
and never back out.

IF GYE had been on that program the official may have
taken away an entirely DIFFERENT point of view.

So I say this man had a goodchance and handed over his country
and lands to the occupiers by his telling that he was afraid of ISI
NOT America-Nato's incursions into his ancestral area.

By the way let's check universities here, before you call me
what you did, "dumb" with a slang unrepeatable word to follow.
Not only is he CHEAP he is ARROGANT just like these occupiers
So let'shear where YOU went to school, Fake Amir ?

[faye]

false accusations fly free and easy on this forum. amir has explained his reasoning perfectly but you, catya and goe still persist with your misinterpretations.