Afghan Joint Chief of Staff Karimi : Sindh-River is the Afg-Pak Border!!

[ComradePashtun]

You are a waste gravecrap and abssolutely no one.

[salam]

Graveyard, please remove that picture or change it.
the name "PAXTON" is wrong. It should not be used for Pukhtuns.

[graveyardofempires]

Graveyard, please remove that picture or change it.
the name "PAXTON" is wrong. It should not be used for Pukhtuns.

i know bro
i,ll remove it for you,

[graveyardofempires]

You are a waste gravecrap and abssolutely no one.

get a life and a brain and some guts to tell the truth instead of your typical propaganda liners.

[ComradePashtun]

Oh ok Gravecrap. I will do.

[graveyardofempires]

Oh ok Gravecrap. I will do.

ok conrat

[salam]

i know bro
i,ll remove it for you,

Thats good. Thanks

[gadoonwal]

He was probably drunk if he said that, I didn't waste a single second on the video .. A man who is living in the kingdom of his dreams :P

Plus what do you guys have to say about this:


Daily Express News Story

late dr najeebullah khan ahmadzai shaheed once said that i will not fire a single shot towards pashtunkhwa cus they are my blood brothers even his govt was destroyed by pakistan and killed by isi.
pakistan is playing the dirty game on afghan soil for the last 31 years.
Many innocenst civilains killed by pakistani bombs,school destroyed,hospitals bombed.
Female pakhtana teachers got killed by pakistani backed talibs.
My view is that afghan side should not fire rockets into pashtun villages cus pashtuns are the victims of this dirty war but they are more then welcome to target pakistani army and isi bases.
I do not trust punjabi media cus it is full of lie.

[graveyardofempires]

late dr najeebullah khan ahmadzai shaheed once said that i will not fire a single shot towards pashtunkhwa cus they are my blood brothers even his govt was destroyed by pakistan and killed by isi.
pakistan is playing the dirty game on afghan soil for the last 31 years.
Many innocenst civilains killed by pakistani bombs,school destroyed,hospitals bombed.
Female pakhtana teachers got killed by pakistani backed talibs.
My view is that afghan side should not fire rockets into pashtun villages cus pashtuns are the victims of this dirty war but they are more then welcome to target pakistani army and isi bases.
I do not trust punjabi media cus it is full of lie.

truth mixed with lies bro.

Najib shaheed? Najib was not even pro pukhtun he belonged to the Parcham party which was an anti pashtun party and he is responsible for killing many especially pashtuns,the guy was head of KHAD which was known for torturing,killing.

if you dont know just ask

[gadoonwal]

Youre absolutely right.

The Pakistani ISI head who oversaw the Afghan jihad was of Pakhtun descent. So was the Pakistani Interior Minister when the Taliban were created. It was Pakhtun bureaucrats and officers who advanced Pakistans interests in Afghanistan

That is the greatest refudiation of Loy Afghanistan.

He was not pashtun come on.There are some duranis in punjab and some came from india during partitation.
They are not from pashtunkhwa .They are punjabis and speak punjabi not pashtu.
Do,nt include the urdu speaking durani of india.
afghans are not well informed.
Once an afghan man told me that hameed gul is pashtun while hameed gul is punjabi born in sarguda punjab and of jat origin.
babar was pashtun.

[gadoonwal]

truth mixed with lies bro.

Najib shaheed? Najib was not even pro pukhtun he belonged to the Parcham party which was an anti pashtun party and he is responsible for killing many especially pashtuns,the guy was head of KHAD which was known for torturing,killing.

if you dont know just ask

yea,you are right here.Najeeb was parchami an anti-pashtun faction but at least the guy shown some bravery to punjabis.
I understand your point he killed many pashtuns too but he himself was,nt anti-pashtun for sure.
He was in between tow enemies.
i think he did one thing realy wrong by bringing dostum to the top job.That was his big mistake but was left with no choice.
There was no reason for mujahideen fighting its own army after russia left.
it was pakistani game and succesful.

[graveyardofempires]

yea,you are right here.Najeeb was parchami an anti-pashtun faction but at least the guy shown some bravery to punjabis.
I understand your point he killed many pashtuns too but he himself was,nt anti-pashtun for sure.
He was in between tow enemies.
i think he did one thing realy wrong by bringing dostum to the top job.That was his big mistake but was left with no choice.
There was no reason for mujahideen fighting its own army after russia left.
it was pakistani game and succesful.

wrora i was in the middle of that war so i know what was going on.
Najib just like Karzai tends to blame his failures on Pakistan while its Afghans who are fighting against what they deem Puppet rulers.

you are right about "mujahideen" shouldnt have fought against the government forces but guess what,they didnt since many parchamis defected to masood side(another anti Pashtun).

do you know how many Khalqis(pashtun nationalists) he killed.
his Army were like like dogs looking for them and even putting money on their heads,he brought the sellout criminal dostum into the governement which sparked tentions and thats why they did the coup against him.

Dostum was nothing but a bandit who would rob the people of kabul the hindus in Kabul were robbed numerous times.these bandits were called gilam jam which mean carpet rolled which means they would come into your house put all your belongings on your carpet ,roll it and put it on their shoulders.

Najib played pashtun whenever it was needed.

[gadoonwal]

I could not believe my ears and eyes when I was watching this program on TOLO a week or so back. Very obsurd of Gerneral Karimi, I am highly disappointed.

On the other hand, +1 goes to Amir Ghaznavi, he literllay stole every word from my mouth. Very well said.

Graveyard is a lame piece of waste. His home provice Kunar was bombed by Paki Pathan Generals in which tens of his fellow Kunaris were killed yet this uneducated monkey blows hot aim from his rat-hole in U.S. What a mag.

No more Durand BS. I do not want have nothing with no one beyond Durand line the official border with Pakistan. Neither will it benifit Afghanistan nor us Pashtuns. If we join them we will also turn into Panjabi vassals as Amir has rightly stated. We will also become Panjabised Pathan, the thought of it disgust me. Thank you. Shame on General Karimi, he should sort out his factional militia called ANA.

you are some iranizad then.
you are scared of pashtun unity cus your perso will disappear right?

[Nick]

truth mixed with lies bro.

Najib shaheed? Najib was not even pro pukhtun he belonged to the Parcham party which was an anti pashtun party and he is responsible for killing many especially pashtuns,the guy was head of KHAD which was known for torturing,killing.

if you dont know just ask

yea,you are right here.Najeeb was parchami an anti-pashtun faction but at least the guy shown some bravery to punjabis.
I understand your point he killed many pashtuns too but he himself was,nt anti-pashtun for sure.
He was in between tow enemies.
i think he did one thing realy wrong by bringing dostum to the top job.That was his big mistake but was left with no choice.
There was no reason for mujahideen fighting its own army after russia left.
it was pakistani game and succesful.

What are you talking about. Really?Parchamis were anti-Pashtun? I am sorry nothing personal but don’t know where you people get your info from? The difference between Khalq and Parcham was political. Yes its true majority of Khalqis were from rural areas which means Pashtuns who mainly cover all of rural areas of Afghanistan were mostly educated compare to that of Parchamis. Whereas Parchamis were mainly from cities with mixed lingustic as well as Racial groups, which held the main position of all Afghan cities, as well as the 50% of Kabul. They both did not recognized Durand line and never argued over ethnic BS.



However as I said political difference was very simple but beneficial for the Russians, the Parchamis were again, against the Russian type revolution because they as educated enough to believe Afghanistan is not developed as Russia and therefore they are not ready for Russian type of Revolution. Whereas Khalqi being majority rural often illiterate believed in promoting Russian revolution, and removing the Shah and install the independent Soviet-style communist regimeß this small difference made it into a huge difference in 1967 which lead to Daud Khan being in Power and that’s how PPDA was used and abused.
PPDA never same by 1968 PPDA divided into four groups

· Dastagir Panjsheri’s Party “The workers” Grui-Kar, they were mainly from the cities and corporation workers often the members of the minimum wage, mainly Farsiwans who later joined Khalq party.

· The Oppressed nationalities “Setami” mainly in Badakhshan, as well as Shebirgan, Samangan all of the cities which held mainly by late 20th century Tajikistani immigrants, because the land given to them by Amanullah Khan was reclaimed by Kochis who were anti-Amanullah and soldiers of Musahiban (However the Tajikistani settlers won the case in late 1940 as notary promise made by Amanuallah that as long as land was being used for farming can be owned by descendants of new settlers and Zahir Shah had no choice but to respect since this is also an Islamic Sheria Law of Mohammad (Pbuh), but war continued in Badakhshan where in 1950s major wars between Kohcis and newly Ismaili settlers of Tajik ASSR and backed by Afghanistan’s native Badakhshi Ismailis armed and funded by Ismaili emperor Sultan Muhammed Shah.) Setamis also became famous position for many Hazaras, mainly members of City Hazaras of Herat, Kabul and Mazar (BTW few Hazaras broke from setami and later joined PYO).


· Khalq meaning people mainly members from rural areas knew little about communism but since unhappy with Zahir Shah they formed the majority.


· Parcham was mainly upper class educated Pashtuns as well as Farsiwans, mainly control of all cities and formed the majority amongst non-Pashtun speaking. Although the party claimed that 70%of their member were Pashtun but by their own words only 25% spoke Pashtu. This announcement was made publically after accused by Khalq as being “Group of minorities” and Karmal himself claimed to be Pashtun, which again lead to another backlash by Khalq as being Hindu Kashmiri.



Bottom point two parties remain stand still, Grui-Kar was destroyed by Dostum, Setamis were destroyed as well many of them under UN protection left the country to VIA to Russia and later helped by UN and displaced to Europe and mainly USA . The two alive Parties the Khalqis and Parcham both were supported by Russia, however their war started in 1969 the Khalq accused the Parchams being used by Zahir Shah although Zahir Shah was still a Russian allies but Russian’s pro-Zahir elements were presented through Parchamis because Russia did not wanted to break relationship with Zahir Shah. So Russian did very well in presenting the Parcham as being pro-Zahir but still supporting socialism.

Najib was not even pro pukhtun he belonged to the Parcham party which was an anti pashtun party

Just because you hate him doesn’t mean he was anti-Pakhtun. Bro you need to go and read the history behind development of PPDA, and I am sure you will be sad and saying what you have said so long, but I hope you are not as disappointed as Amir al Ghaznavi, and Niazi

[graveyardofempires]

What are you talking about. Really?Parchamis were anti-Pashtun? I am sorry nothing personal but don’t know where you people get your info from? The difference between Khalq and Parcham was political. Yes its true majority of Khalqis were from rural areas which means Pashtuns who mainly cover all of rural areas of Afghanistan were mostly educated compare to that of Parchamis. Whereas Parchamis were mainly from cities with mixed lingustic as well as Racial groups, which held the main position of all Afghan cities, as well as the 50% of Kabul. They both did not recognized Durand line and never argued over ethnic BS.

Parchamis were like the real atheist type of people in whos time immorality was common.The difference was that Khalqis were nationalists and Parchamis were plain communists.
Who says khalqis were only from rural areas and uneducated?
Parchamis can be compared to setamis of today and those so called khurasanis.


However as I said political difference was very simple but beneficial for the Russians, the Parchamis were again, against the Russian type revolution because they as educated enough to believe Afghanistan is not developed as Russia and therefore they are not ready for Russian type of Revolution. Whereas Khalqi being majority rural often illiterate believed in promoting Russian revolution, and removing the Shah and install the independent Soviet-style communist regimeß this small difference made it into a huge difference in 1967 which lead to Daud Khan being in Power and that’s how PPDA was used and abused.
That is some bias,Parchamis were nto all that educated,its the typical "being kabuli means educated,being rural means uneducated" "being Pashtun so you must be illiterate,being tajik you must eb smart"

i for one know what type of people were acting how in kabul.
PPDA never same by 1968 PPDA divided into four groups

· Dastagir Panjsheri’s Party “The workers” Grui-Kar, they were mainly from the cities and corporation workers often the members of the minimum wage, mainly Farsiwans who later joined Khalq party.
Never heard of this group
· The Oppressed nationalities “Setami” mainly in Badakhshan, as well as Shebirgan, Samangan all of the cities which held mainly by late 20th century Tajikistani immigrants, because the land given to them by Amanullah Khan was reclaimed by Kochis who were anti-Amanullah and soldiers of Musahiban (However the Tajikistani settlers won the case in late 1940 as notary promise made by Amanuallah that as long as land was being used for farming can be owned by descendants of new settlers and Zahir Shah had no choice but to respect since this is also an Islamic Sheria Law of Mohammad (Pbuh), but war continued in Badakhshan where in 1950s major wars between Kohcis and newly Ismaili settlers of Tajik ASSR and backed by Afghanistan’s native Badakhshi Ismailis armed and funded by Ismaili emperor Sultan Muhammed Shah.) Setamis also became famous position for many Hazaras, mainly members of City Hazaras of Herat, Kabul and Mazar (BTW few Hazaras broke from setami and later joined PYO).
exactly so in this sense you can put kochis in Khalqi and those other in parchami and what has islamic law got to do with ismalis,they arent even considered muslims.



· Khalq meaning people mainly members from rural areas knewlittle about communism but since unhappy with Zahir Shah they formed the majority.


· Parcham was mainly upper class educated Pashtuns as well as Farsiwans, mainly control of all cities and formed the majority amongst non-Pashtun speaking. Although the party claimed that 70%of their member were Pashtun but by their own words only 25% spoke Pashtu. This announcement was made publically after accused by Khalq as being “Group of minorities” and Karmal himself claimed to be Pashtun, which again lead to another backlash by Khalq as being Hindu Kashmiri.
so what was i saying,i was saying that Parchamis were mostly anti Pashtun.


Bottom point two parties remain stand still, Grui-Kar was destroyed by Dostum, Setamis were destroyed many of them under UN protection left the country to VIA to Russia and later helped by UN and displaced to Europe and mainly USA . The two alive Parties the Khalqis and Parcham both were supported by Russia, however their war started in 1969 the Khalq accused the Parchams being used by Zahir Shah although Zahir Shah was still a Russian allies but Russian’s pro-Zahir elements were presented through Parchamis because Russia did not wanted to break relationship with Zahir Shah. So Russian did very well in presenting the Parcham as being pro-Zahir but still supporting socialism.

so what are your sources?

did you live in kabul before the fall of Najib?