Jinnah and co

[faye]

and no sucking on the financial teet of the west.

[haviZsultan]

yes my country was nothing right but i know better than u . bfr iltutmish lahore was the capital of ghurids and qutb ud din aibak . After that mughals made lahore v important place after delhi and pakistn was the place punjab and frontier which were used to tackle outsiders. wel whatever u say all the three dynasties lodhi suri and durrani were much more part of pakistan . thats why sher shah craetted rohtas fort in pakistan and many more building and gt road . what did sher shah created i afghanistan. and bahlol lodhi was born in multan go check it . and ahmad sahh durrani was born in either multan or herat but its more likely multan .
Well i will tell u u afghans have no history no culture u have stolen culture of turks for being under their rule for long time . even u have stolen their language persian. on the other hand turks and persians didnt start speaking anyother afghan language. so my frend u are the one who has idenetity crisis.
u guys are taking away the simple history which belongs to kp as urs becaus eu r stil living in the imaginar world that there is no durrand line. on the other hand first of all ask ur foretfathers what kidn of treatment did our peopel and the kp peopel got when they went to afghanistan during khilafat movement.well u need to read that ti find out how much selfish u have been in ur histiory

The people of Pakhtunkhwa are willing to share the history of the Lodhi's, suris and durranis between us but if there is to be some sort of competition and a challenge is made that this is not Pakistans history then Pakistani Pashtuns will obviously challenge this narrative because all Pashtun leaders were born in what is now Pakistan and were southern Pashtuns who also happen to number more than the northern ones. So its unfair to claim Afghan history can never be Pakistani history. KGOD hopefully you will understand as you are more sensible than many of the racist Afghans on this site.

We just hate the racism of the Afghan. The Afghan thinks we are trying to steal his history but they are not giving us an equal share. Pakistans history as I said belongs to all the ethnic groups within it.

If the Afghans have so long been bang the drums that Pashtuns=Afghans then our history is one and the Pakistani Pashtuns history is also the history of Pakistan. Would be noble to accept this.

[abassinafghan]

what pakistani history ? the rotten history since 1947 ? the history of an ismaeli kafir shia without a beard eating pork ,drinking alcohol , doing the uncle tom for brits .
the term pakistan dont even describe a name of a nation or people !!!!!

its artifical just like israel , i hate pakistan as i hate israel !!!!!

and both will vanish despite being nuclear powers , there are things which can not be stopped by force as much as you wish .

there was no pakistan before 1947 ,


there people living for 40 years away from their home , and still consider their selfes as what they are by their origin ´, so how can dare you to say that pashtuns of pashtunistan dont belong to pashtuns of afghanistan ???


and i didnt start with the rotten history of the ismaeli state .....

[JattApache]

what pakistani history ? the rotten history since 1947 ? the history of an ismaeli kafir shia without a beard eating pork ,drinking alcohol , doing the uncle tom for brits .
the term pakistan dont even describe a name of a nation or people !!!!!

its artifical just like israel , i hate pakistan as i hate israel !!!!!

and both will vanish despite being nuclear powers , there are things which can not be stopped by force as much as you wish .

there was no pakistan before 1947 ,


there people living for 40 years away from their home , and still consider their selfes as what they are by their origin ´, so how can dare you to say that pashtuns of pashtunistan dont belong to pashtuns of afghanistan ???


and i didnt start with the rotten history of the ismaeli state .....

Pakistan share a common history with Afghanistan and Hindustan,
So the Pakistanis claim heritage of the mughals, Porus, ranjit singh, Ahmad shah abdali, ghaznavi etc....

Personnaly, I don't want to offend the pakistanis, but their only history ( for me ) is the 3 wars against Hindustan and all the events after 1947, in their territory

[afghanis_hehe]

Pakistan share a common history with Afghanistan and Hindustan,
So the Pakistanis claim heritage of the mughals, Porus, ranjit singh, Ahmad shah abdali, ghaznavi etc....

Personnaly, I don't want to offend the pakistanis, but their only history ( for me ) is the 3 wars against Hindustan and all the events after 1947, in their territory

wow bro but why shudnt we claim the heritage of mughals ahmad shah ghazanvis ghauri,lodhis suris and all other. As there descendants and their army descendants are in pakistan . so i think the chikldren have a good claim over their forfathers . and not to forget, these kings and sultan all married the women from north india and the region called pakistan . so not to offend u u only have ranjit singh on ur side , while all others were muslims and we as muslims and being their descendants or armies can claim their history along with rranjit singh along with hindus history as we are the ones who have all the blood of these sultans and their armies whether they were turks or hindus.
and the three wars against hindustan , why not remove ur misconception about 1948 war and 1965 war . u need to check that . what ur coward gandhi and other officials did nobody can forget when they were so afraid they werent willing to send our due share when pak was created. on the other hand 1965 war was won by us and nobody can deny it even if ur text books do . but i know 1971 india played the role of a smart fox. 1999 wasnt even a war . if u were so strong enough why didnt u have a nuclear attack on us even though we got the nuclear power after 20 years . the reason is that we had the nuclear power long time bfr when we showd it to the world . it clearly shows why u r afraid of such a small country . pakistan is like 10 times smaller than u and has given u a reall hard time . well i applaud te sikhs .if it wasnt for the sikhs hindus cant even fight .

[afghanis_hehe]

what pakistani history ? the rotten history since 1947 ? the history of an ismaeli kafir shia without a beard eating pork ,drinking alcohol , doing the uncle tom for brits .
the term pakistan dont even describe a name of a nation or people !!!!!

its artifical just like israel , i hate pakistan as i hate israel !!!!!

and both will vanish despite being nuclear powers , there are things which can not be stopped by force as much as you wish .

there was no pakistan before 1947 ,


there people living for 40 years away from their home , and still consider their selfes as what they are by their origin ´, so how can dare you to say that pashtuns of pashtunistan dont belong to pashtuns of afghanistan ???


and i didnt start with the rotten history of the ismaeli state .....

hahaha despo afghan . what u r i also hate ur kafir father baba sahab ahmad shah ok who was no less than a looter a plunderer and a servant of nadir shah.
my jinaah was not anybodys servant ok while urs was. u r racist so i will tell how much racist i can be . well i hate ur country too whats so good abt ur country have u seen a pakistani going to ur country well there are alot of ur types serving in pakistan .
on the other hand whats pashtunistan is it ur imaginary homeland. while we have 60 years so do u as u wre also created abt 2 centuries ago so stop claiming the history of turks as urs . and stop claiming lodhi and suris as they belong to pakistan and have done good for this region rather than for ur region .
if u think that we should only claim the 60 yars history then i guess u shud also claim history since abdali. u have no concen with who lodhis and suris were. nor any one of u in afghanistan is lodhi and suri while pakistan is full of lodhis and suris and 90 percent of them are not even pashto speakers but still they were the ones who created the history and u r so proud of that so called history . give me one hero who rose from that region which u call afghanistan and ruled other than ur country ,.
Dont include ghaznawis , ghauris mamluks, khiljis, tughluqs, mughals, as they were turkic, and dont include lodhis and suris they wereent part of ur afghanistan which has just been created abt 2 centuries ago. and tthese lodhis and suris are part of pakistan as these kings were born here. dont claim ahmad shah as he was so weak that a handfull army of ranjit singh even defeated him.
Now stop lying to urself as u dont have any history . as u just are born like pakistan just a couple of years ago. hahahah

[afghanis_hehe]

The people of Pakhtunkhwa are willing to share the history of the Lodhi's, suris and durranis between us but if there is to be some sort of competition and a challenge is made that this is not Pakistans history then Pakistani Pashtuns will obviously challenge this narrative because all Pashtun leaders were born in what is now Pakistan and were southern Pashtuns who also happen to number more than the northern ones. So its unfair to claim Afghan history can never be Pakistani history. KGOD hopefully you will understand as you are more sensible than many of the racist Afghans on this site.

We just hate the racism of the Afghan. The Afghan thinks we are trying to steal his history but they are not giving us an equal share. Pakistans history as I said belongs to all the ethnic groups within it.

If the Afghans have so long been bang the drums that Pashtuns=Afghans then our history is one and the Pakistani Pashtuns history is also the history of Pakistan. Would be noble to accept this.

Brother i dont think there is any need to share ur history with these kind of people who are so extremely racist. there region afghanistan didnt even produce one good king from themselves .what they are basically proud of is that lodhis suris and abdali originated from afghanistan may be 500 years bfr there births. while the truth is they were born here an dthere grandapa was aslo born in this land o fpakistna. on the other hand if this is the case then we should also start claim english history as all of us are born from adam. this is nothing to be shared with these kind of peoepl. they are rejecting simple history over here. they just want to hear what they want to hear. well i wil only go by truth. lodhis and suris belong to pakistan heritage as they were born here along with their ancestors while abdals too was born here but they cant accept the fact that the afghans have never been the rulers.i cant argue with them anymore . they are abusing our jinnah well it shows their desperation

[JattApache]

wow bro but why shudnt we claim the heritage of mughals ahmad shah ghazanvis ghauri,lodhis suris and all other. As there descendants and their army descendants are in pakistan . so i think the chikldren have a good claim over their forfathers . and not to forget, these kings and sultan all married the women from north india and the region called pakistan . so not to offend u u only have ranjit singh on ur side , while all others were muslims and we as muslims and being their descendants or armies can claim their history along with rranjit singh along with hindus history as we are the ones who have all the blood of these sultans and their armies whether they were turks or hindus.
and the three wars against hindustan , why not remove ur misconception about 1948 war and 1965 war . u need to check that . what ur coward gandhi and other officials did nobody can forget when they were so afraid they werent willing to send our due share when pak was created. on the other hand 1965 war was won by us and nobody can deny it even if ur text books do . but i
know 1971 india played the role of a smart fox. 1999 wasnt even a war . if u were so strong enough why didnt u have a nuclear attack on us even though we got the nuclear power after 20 years . the reason is that we had the nuclear power long time bfr when we showd it to the world . it clearly shows why u r afraid of such a small country . pakistan is like 10 times smaller than u and has given u a reall hard time . well i applaud te sikhs .if it wasnt for the sikhs hindus cant even fight .

Ok Pakistan won the war in 1965,
But Hindustan won the war of 1971 and the war of 1999 in kargil, and your government with nawaz sharif abandonned the power because of us. You lost all the wars , you partly won in 1965
But now amrika will be your next ennemy, and hindustan will be behind them, don't forget that brother

[afghanis_hehe]

Ok Pakistan won the war in 1965,
But Hindustan won the war of 1971 and the war of 1999 in kargil, and your government with nawaz sharif abandonned the power because of us. You lost all the wars , you partly won in 1965
But now amrika will be your next ennemy, and hindustan will be behind them, don't forget that brother

Well u also know the real facts about 1999 war yes we lost it but it was more of a conspiracy by ur loving partner us who wanted us to back off. well man truth is pakistan has been treated badly by its leaders and us . but the truth also is sikhs and peopel from punjab in india have been treated badly they are working like servants and are fighting wars protecting the hindus . they could even save their temple during bluw storm operation . and 1965 war if we won partly then i can every war is won partly as casualities are produced on both sides.
brother i know u r a ptariotic indian whyy are u using a username bharati well u could have used hindustani.

[JattApache]

Well u also know the real facts about 1999 war yes we lost it but it was more of a conspiracy by ur loving partner us who wanted us to back off. well man truth is pakistan has been treated badly by its leaders and us . but the truth also is sikhs and peopel from punjab in india have been treated badly they are working like servants and are fighting wars protecting the hindus . they could even save their temple during bluw storm operation . and 1965 war if we won partly then i can every war is won partly as casualities are produced on both sides.
brother i know u r a ptariotic indian whyy are u using a username bharati well u could have used hindustani.

We won in 1971 and 1999, there are proofs and facts.
Sikhs are not the servants of hindus, we form part of the elite of india , our leader and prime minister is a sikh, 1984 was a tragedy, due to the congress party and indira the kanjrii

[abassinafghan]

i dont talk about the average shia , who is seeking making a living


i am talking about the rotten corrupted ismaeli sect whichs head the aga khan founded the muslim league and who were kicked out of afghanistan because they were brit servants ...


you can bark as much as you want , but our history is known , to us , to our firends , and to our enemies . and it is our turn to follow our ancestors .


we will bring shariat and islam to napakistan , we will break the places of shirk ,like the grave of jinah and other unislamic places .

we will cover up your mom , your sister and the rest of your female relatives , and we will make real men out of your male relatives by forcing them to wear beards .

instead to come up with men who will teach those low lifes , a lesson by putting our boots on their heads and throats , we are here talking about muslim brotherhood , and how all should live in peace mean while we get punched every day ....

but be assured , no mercy for punjab by me !!!!!

[Shah-i-Kot]

hahaha despo afghan . what u r i also hate ur kafir father baba sahab ahmad shah ok who was no less than a looter a plunderer and a servant of nadir shah.
my jinaah was not anybodys servant ok while urs was. u r racist so i will tell how much racist i can be . well i hate ur country too whats so good abt ur country have u seen a pakistani going to ur country well there are alot of ur types serving in pakistan .
on the other hand whats pashtunistan is it ur imaginary homeland. while we have 60 years so do u as u wre also created abt 2 centuries ago so stop claiming the history of turks as urs . and stop claiming lodhi and suris as they belong to pakistan and have done good for this region rather than for ur region .
if u think that we should only claim the 60 yars history then i guess u shud also claim history since abdali. u have no concen with who lodhis and suris were. nor any one of u in afghanistan is lodhi and suri while pakistan is full of lodhis and suris and 90 percent of them are not even pashto speakers but still they were the ones who created the history and u r so proud of that so called history . give me one hero who rose from that region which u call afghanistan and ruled other than ur country ,.
Dont include ghaznawis , ghauris mamluks, khiljis, tughluqs, mughals, as they were turkic, and dont include lodhis and suris they wereent part of ur afghanistan which has just been created abt 2 centuries ago. and tthese lodhis and suris are part of pakistan as these kings were born here. dont claim ahmad shah as he was so weak that a handfull army of ranjit singh even defeated him.
Now stop lying to urself as u dont have any history . as u just are born like pakistan just a couple of years ago. hahahah

people in Pakistan will go to any lengths to 1) either tie themselves to the Prophet (pbuh) by saying they are Sayeds, or 2) tie themselves to Afghans by saying they are tied to Afghans in some manner or 3) tie themselves to Turks, Mughals, or Persians for the same reasons as 2)

Being ruled by Pashtuns does not mean India/Pakistanis have a claim to Pashtun history, it means the complete opposite. Where do you get your thinking skills from?

So, I guess with your logic, you should be proud of the British who ruled the subcontinent (India and Pakistan) too? The British that the Pashtuns fought, but that present day Pakistanis/Indians did not.

[haviZsultan]

Brother i dont think there is any need to share ur history with these kind of people who are so extremely racist. there region afghanistan didnt even produce one good king from themselves .what they are basically proud of is that lodhis suris and abdali originated from afghanistan may be 500 years bfr there births. while the truth is they were born here an dthere grandapa was aslo born in this land o fpakistna. on the other hand if this is the case then we should also start claim english history as all of us are born from adam. this is nothing to be shared with these kind of peoepl. they are rejecting simple history over here. they just want to hear what they want to hear. well i wil only go by truth. lodhis and suris belong to pakistan heritage as they were born here along with their ancestors while abdals too was born here but they cant accept the fact that the afghans have never been the rulers.i cant argue with them anymore . they are abusing our jinnah well it shows their desperation

On second thought you are right. We have the bigger share of history... why share with the Afghan who thinks we are the dust beneath his feet. Keep posting. I wish I had a name for you or something.

You, me and Arooj can change the complete outlook of this site. Instead of favoring the Afghan they will be forced to look at another reality. The Pakistani Pashtun who makes the majority.

[afghanis_hehe]

people in Pakistan will go to any lengths to 1) either tie themselves to the Prophet (pbuh) by saying they are Sayeds, or 2) tie themselves to Afghans by saying they are tied to Afghans in some manner or 3) tie themselves to Turks, Mughals, or Persians for the same reasons as 2)

Being ruled by Pashtuns does not mean India/Pakistanis have a claim to Pashtun history, it means the complete opposite. Where do you get your thinking skills from?

So, I guess with your logic, you should be proud of the British who ruled the subcontinent (India and Pakistan) too? The British that the Pashtuns fought, but that present day Pakistanis/Indians did not.

Yeah true well i guess i dont need to prove my genes . it clearly states in the genetic thread , how much south asian and how much foreign admixture i have and how much u have . well let me tell u afghans also have 25 percent south asian in u . while the other ethinicties in pakistan have around 35 -40 while the remaining is from outside . i think u need to consult soem of those threads in order to see for urself . its not like we want to associate ourselves with mughals turks arabs or sayeds. but truth is u urself call urself iranic hahahahah . well in one of my earlier post i have given the pictures of direct descendanst of bahadar shah zafar and u can look how dark they are but that doesnt mean they dont have mughal blood or turk blood. phenotype doesnt matter. man i go by studies not like u who out of his hatred just want to associate us with hindus completly.
and this is ur miscnception that only pashtuns fought against british . was there a seperate regiment for them . comon man dont make up history . when it comes to bangladesh seperation u make it a complete punjabi army well thats not so fair. where was ur afghan pride when u were defated by a handfull of ranjit singh soldiers. u cudnt even stop him hiow cud u stop britishers , it was a combined effort dont be so smart next time . read and then write , dont just write what u think . and on the other hand pashtuns in pakistan are the ones who have been making history for u afghans . what u have made is just stories. u shud i gguess thank them , and us tooo for making u live in our country

[afghanis_hehe]

i dont talk about the average shia , who is seeking making a living


i am talking about the rotten corrupted ismaeli sect whichs head the aga khan founded the muslim league and who were kicked out of afghanistan because they were brit servants ...


you can bark as much as you want , but our history is known , to us , to our firends , and to our enemies . and it is our turn to follow our ancestors .


we will bring shariat and islam to napakistan , we will break the places of shirk ,like the grave of jinah and other unislamic places .

we will cover up your mom , your sister and the rest of your female relatives , and we will make real men out of your male relatives by forcing them to wear beards .

instead to come up with men who will teach those low lifes , a lesson by putting our boots on their heads and throats , we are here talking about muslim brotherhood , and how all should live in peace mean while we get punched every day ....

but be assured , no mercy for punjab by me !!!!!

hahahahahah u r a clown my frend first i guess for practice u need to get over the minorties in afghanistan than think about fighting pakistan. i bet even if u can fight sindh and be succesfull . man u r just a big joke u r sitting in some foreign country and are barking constantly .
well u need to cover ur women in afghanistan who do nude dances in front of men . kabul is i guess the biggest hub of this culture. what u have is that u keep beard u eat halal and u do all haram. well let me tell u one thing after 2014 ur afghanistan will be under control of pakistan as promised by usa . so be ready u might become the fifth province of pakistan . but we will make sure u get the second citizen status as u get in iran . on the other hand u will get no mercy but beating all day .racist i wil show u how racist i can be .