the pathan and the pakhtun

[Michin Khel]

Afghan baqi kohsaar baqi....iqbal was so wrong.

[Master Khan]

This is your view and your own personal reality. You have no idea how it looks like in Afghanistan. I don´t know why you want to lie yourself.

so you going to abandon your Langange,Culture and History because of this, Your Punjabi brothers are bombing your people while you are here supporting them.

I am lieing to myself..lol, Brother I know my history so I am not lieing to myself manana . whatever bro just be a proud of this punjabi Nation and their Bangra, Mujra Culture.

[Chelsea-Fan]

so you going to abandon your Langange,Culture and History because of this, Your Punjabi brothers are bombing your people while you are here supporting them.

What do you mean by this?

[tor_khan]

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[Shehbaz Khan]

plus the Durand Line agreement expired in 1993 so we are not part of this rubbish pathetic terrorist Nation of Gholistan(Pakistan).
.

Which clause of that agreement said that the land will be given back to Afghanistan?

Plus, to which level do you think currently the inhabitants of that land would agree with you to join back with Afghanistan?

Does Afghanistan have a copy of that agreement? If Yes, they better go to any international court/forum about it, if they are really serious in getting back their land.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Master Khana,

Don't worry. Pakistan is only relatively stable because the big and powerful Pashtun tribes (e.g. Yusufzais, Khattaks, Waziris, Mohmands and others) are still loyal.

There are however certain red lines that the Rawalpindi-Islamabad regime cannot overstep.

If it does then there will be jirga and if necessary tribals will even launch an all out offensive to cross the Margala Hills and take Islamabad. However it is nowhere near this stage yet and Yusufzais, Khattaks etc are pro-Pakistan for the time being. Other than that characters like Chelsea-fan are best left ignored.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

First of all, is it too hard to ask for civility when talking. You all can't discuss in here without cursing and you expect to change the politics of a nation of 60 million?
@Luffy aka troll, I haven't widened any gap, I only speak my mind. Don't blame your trolling and your complexes on me, that is your problem. You used to blame Mokadaar before and now you are after me lol. Daa gaz ao daa maidaan....have some spine and defend your views (whatever they are, depending on your mood and time of the day).

@Shehbaz it is based on the concept of lease, which normally lasts around 99 years to then be once again renewed. Again this is not and should not the major argument point for Pashtuns/Afghans. The Pashtuns were never given a choice in the referendum, so that should be the primary basis, and also the supposed religious basis of this state should be put into question which I think is the most valid argument against Pakistan.

[Master Khan]

What do you mean by this?

you said you don't know how its like in Afghanistan, so you rather live in the Punjabi Nation of Pakistan where they teach you lies and bombing your people then create our own Nation and where our people are in charge and help pashto become stronger and bigger.
Pakistan is the problem Pashtun are weaker.

[Chelsea-Fan]

you said you don't know how its like in Afghanistan, so you rather live in the Punjabi Nation of Pakistan where they teach you lies and bombing your people then create our own Nation and where our people are in charge and help pashto become stronger and bigger.
Pakistan is the problem Pashtun are weaker.

Than inform yourself over the three different periodes in Pakistan´s history.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

What three periods?

[Shehbaz Khan]

Any pashtun who doesn't consider pakistan to be the noor of the world will find no problem with these threads.

Adam Jana Pakhair, Lag pa zra laas kegda aao ma ta da wo waya, che har hagha pukthun dalla aao be-ghairata sanga sho che kom da Pakistan pa baara ki kha raa'ye lari? Mong (speaking on the behalf of Aab-e-Hayat also) da mano che Pakistan ghaltyani kari aao keday shi dieri ghati ghati ghaltyani tri shawi wi kho pa hagha time da khabara hum da fikar laiqa da che Pakistan yao haqeeqat day ka pa cha har somra bad lagi nu monga khpal har yao masala pa pakistan aao isi war wo tapo, wali? Da mong wali kawo?
Za yao pakhtun yam zama ta'luq nokhaar sara day, za pa jaib ki pakistani shanakhti card garzawam aao che da dunya har malk ta laar sham nu za yao pakistanay balalay sham, nu bya wali pa di forum ki khalaq ma ta spak gori? Za wali da Heera mandai chowkidar balalay sham?

[tor_khan]

@bls
you are responsible for directing hatred of afghanis towards us. You are a culprit who has widen the gap between two sides of pashtuns

Any non-pashtun who visit this forum will notice that afghanis consider pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa worse than dogs.

Luffy, I am saddened that you should say that because it is NOT true. These days I am in Afghanistan, and I can tell you that every Pashtoon whom I've met has nothing but love for Pashtoons either side of the national boundaries. I have sat with Ministers and Humanitarian workers, regular people and they have nothing but love and solidarity for Pashtoons everywhere.

And let me add something else. Here in Kabul, there are many Pashtoons from Pakistan, working regular jobs and enjoying positive social contact with Afghans.

We are the same people.

[Nokia_Apridy]

tor lala ...........Pashtoons from Pakistan, working regular jobs and enjoying positive social contact with Afghans

lag da inform hem wakhla 3 wrazay makhkay nunas 19 tanan weshta hem wo........

Kamal da dei chay MOD ta topci ka barkha wagesta mean mod da yaye chay

mung SPEY U ..................da ADAM post sra ba qute kam darta ?....


Za hem Zanzeruna shhlwalay sham khu za da Shayst khor ratag poray wesar yam

[Master Khan]

Luffy, I am saddened that you should say that because it is NOT true. These days I am in Afghanistan, and I can tell you that every Pashtoon whom I've met has nothing but love for Pashtoons either side of the national boundaries. I have sat with Ministers and Humanitarian workers, regular people and they have nothing but love and solidarity for Pashtoons everywhere.

And let me add something else. Here in Kabul, there are many Pashtoons from Pakistan, working regular jobs and enjoying positive social contact with Afghans.

We are the same people.

yeah I know some people from village that works in Afghanistan and they are happy there lol, atleast they got 24 hours of electricity while we suffer in this Nation...even my dad hates this country now, he said if we united then we pashtun will be stronger then ever.

[Shehbaz Khan]

@Shehbaz it is based on the concept of lease, which normally lasts around 99 years to then be once again renewed. Again this is not and should not the major argument point for Pashtuns/Afghans. The Pashtuns were never given a choice in the referendum, so that should be the primary basis, and also the supposed religious basis of this state should be put into question which I think is the most valid argument against Pakistan.

BLS Jana Pakhair, Diera mooda pas ra khkara shwi, sam da enzar gul darna jor shaway mara sanga e?

I asked which clause of that agreement says that The land will be given back to Afghanistan?

And Yes let's have a refrundum? Why is ANP not doing it? Infact what took ANP so long to come into power as this was their prime slogan, the unity thing? The fact is that the majority of the Pakhtuns of the KPK are not interested and I don't think If even 10% of them would like to join back with Afghanistan?

Why you keep questioning the basis of this state?