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  • #31
    Originally posted by Niazi View Post
    Taliboy

    Unlike u Life is sacred to me ,I condemn every single innocent life been take regardless of who done it,

    Now talboy



    Hahaha u silly taliboy, how is life in the west.

    Tell me do u condemn killing in vedio I posted Or no not.

    Oh Niazi, Niazi, Niazi,

    Canards and clichés are typical of your usual posts.

    Lets analyze what you are attempting to link together:

    1) The thread is about Puppetisident Karzai Bibi, his retarded claims about how he was going to stop raids, and then his clear inability to do so, followed through by his pinning medals to the chest of the architect of policies that he claims the Afghan populace is about to get all wiley about.

    2) Endorsement of Civilian casualties.

    So basically, like a fool, you wandered into a thread that criticized Karzai’s utter lack of diplomacy with the Afghan people and somehow became rabid enough with rage to attempt to stop that criticism with the claim that the Taliban kill Civilians.

    Regarding civilian deaths and the Taliban insurgency, you don’t really need me to answer that for you. The Afghan civilian himself can answer who he holds responsible for civilian deaths. Your farsiwaan colleague put himself in an intellectual Chinese fingertrap of the mind when he posted these videos, yet he provided us with a trove of evidences:

    I wont really take the time to rewrite the answer to your idiotic commentary above, so Ill just cut and paste what I answered your colleague previously here:

    http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...afghans-17819/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

    Take a look at the first video 2.33 minutes and 2.45 minutes into it when that old refugee AbduRahman is speaking. Who does he support and see as, in the words of the narrator, Afghanistan's saviors? He says the Taliban. Who does he see as responsible for civilian deaths? The NATO forces and the specifically the US. It matters little if this is true or not, this preception is basically supported by other reports coming out of Kandahar and other places where the southern Pashtuns (make no excuses by attempting to interject KP Pashtuns in here) view NATO as an occupying force. A few sets of anecdotal evidences are making this an apparent thing:

    1) Karzai has to dance the two step by denouncing NATO as using occupier tactics, while at the same time serving them (he knows his bread comes from NATO, but he knows that the populace is weary of NATO).

    "Why did he (Karzai) have to? He was propped up by Americans, British and Canadians who were spending billions that lined his and his friends’ pockets. His camp’s been fighting theiropposition for decades (although alliances have often shifted), so why give them a share of the pot?

    http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks


    2) "And so the cycle began. We add more troops, which strengthens the Taliban and weakens support for the government. Suicide attacks, IEDs, military and civilian dead or wounded—all rise commensuratelywith eachincrease in foreign troop or Afghan government presence. We misunderstand many ofthecauses of support for the Taliban. They didn’t wear sandwich boards or hand out pamphlets to win people. They are the Pashtuns. Most don’t want to rule the country. They just want to get rid of the occupiers."

    http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks


    3) This sentiment has even seeped into Kabul:

    "Enayatullah Balegh is a professor at Kabul University and preaches on Fridays in the largest mosque in central Kabul, where he advocates jihad, or holy war, against foreigners who desecrate Islam."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7390ZV20110410

    The bottom line?: The flat earth society members make the mistake that the average Afghan civilian does not. In their effort to play pin the tail on the donkey in regard to civilian deaths the flat earth society members miss the big picture. The Civilian construct of how civilian deaths occur is as follows per the evidences above:

    1) Taliban in power: relative calm and peace --> 2) US invades --> 3) Taliban utilize assymetric tactics and guerilla warfare to fight a superiorly armed and air force backed military --> 4) Civilians die as a consequence of step 2

    In the Flat Earth Society construct, or propaganda (take your pick):

    1) Pakistanis dressed as Pashtuns invade Afghanistan and take over the country with little effort --> 2) Karzai is a white knight on a white horse (never mind his thievery, incomptence, and the freedom loving US comes in and aids him kicking out the "Pakistanis" that were all somehow born in Afghan villages (this is anti reality remember?) --> 3) the ISI proceeds on killing civilians, but poses as insurgents --> 4) No Civilian supports the Taliban.


    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
      Oh Niazi, Niazi, Niazi,

      Canards and clichés are typical of your usual posts.

      Lets analyze what you are attempting to link together:

      1) [FONT=Verdana]The thread is about Puppetisident Karzai Bibi, his retarded claims about how he was going to stop raids, and then his clear inability to do so, followed through by his pinning medals
      So basically, like a fool, you wandered into a thread that criticized Karzai’s utter lack of diplomacy with the Afghan people and somehow became rabid enough with rage to attempt to stop that criticism with the claim that the Taliban kill Civilians.

      Regarding civilian deaths and the Taliban insurgency, you don’t really need me to answer that for you. The Afghan civilian himself can answer who he holds responsible for civilian deaths. Your farsiwaan colleague put himself in an intellectual Chinese fingertrap of the mind when he posted these videos, yet he provided us with a trove of evidences:

      I wont really take the time to rewrite the answer to your idiotic commentary above, so Ill just cut and paste what I answered your colleague previously here:

      http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...afghans-17819/
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

      Take a look at the first video 2.33 minutes and 2.45 minutes into it when that old refugee AbduRahman is speaking. Who does he support and see as, in the words of the narrator, Afghanistan's saviors? He says the Taliban. Who does he see as responsible for civilian deaths? The NATO forces and the specifically the US. It matters little if this is true or not, this preception is basically supported by other reports coming out of Kandahar and other places where the southern Pashtuns (make no excuses by attempting to interject KP Pashtuns in here) view NATO as an occupying force. A few sets of anecdotal evidences are making this an apparent thing:

      1) Karzai has to dance the two step by denouncing NATO as using occupier tactics, while at the same time serving them (he knows his bread comes from NATO, but he knows that the populace is weary of NATO).

      "Why did he (Karzai) have to? He was propped up by Americans, British and Canadians who were spending billions that lined his and his friends’ pockets. His camp’s been fighting theiropposition for decades (although alliances have often shifted), so why give them a share of the pot?

      http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks


      2) "And so the cycle began. We add more troops, which strengthens the Taliban and weakens support for the government. Suicide attacks, IEDs, military and civilian dead or wounded—all rise commensuratelywith eachincrease in foreign troop or Afghan government presence. We misunderstand many ofthecauses of support for the Taliban. They didn’t wear sandwich boards or hand out pamphlets to win people. They are the Pashtuns. Most don’t want to rule the country. They just want to get rid of the occupiers."

      http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks


      3) This sentiment has even seeped into Kabul:

      "Enayatullah Balegh is a professor at Kabul University and preaches on Fridays in the largest mosque in central Kabul, where he advocates jihad, or holy war, against foreigners who desecrate Islam."

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7390ZV20110410

      The bottom line?: The flat earth society members make the mistake that the average Afghan civilian does not. In their effort to play pin the tail on the donkey in regard to civilian deaths the flat earth society members miss the big picture. The Civilian construct of how civilian deaths occur is as follows per the evidences above:

      1) Taliban in power: relative calm and peace --> 2) US invades --> 3) Taliban utilize assymetric tactics and guerilla warfare to fight a superiorly armed and air force backed military --> 4) Civilians die as a consequence of step 2

      In the Flat Earth Society construct, or propaganda (take your pick):

      1) Pakistanis dressed as Pashtuns invade Afghanistan and take over the country with little effort --> 2) Karzai is a white knight on a white horse (never mind his thievery, incomptence, and the freedom loving US comes in and aids him kicking out the "Pakistanis" that were all somehow born in Afghan villages (this is anti reality remember?) --> 3) the ISI proceeds on killing civilians, but poses as insurgents --> 4) No Civilian supports the Taliban.

      محترمه روره شاغلي باركزي صاحب

      تاسو غبركون د ودبو به باره كي سه دي

      YouTube - ‪Kabul Bank Shooting in Jalalabad, 40 dead‬‏

      In case you can't read pakhto ,here what i want to ask you give me yes or no answer

      What's your reaction about the vedio ?
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      • #33
        niazi, what is your reaction to the night raids/ airstrikes that kill thousands of Afghans?

        You do not care about them. The US presence is the sole barrier to peace in Afghanistan.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
          Oh Niazi, Niazi, Niazi,

          Canards and clichés are typical of your usual posts.

          Lets analyze what you are attempting to link together:

          1) The thread is about Puppetisident Karzai Bibi, his retarded claims about how he was going to stop raids, and then his clear inability to do so, followed through by his pinning medals to the chest of the architect of policies that he claims the Afghan populace is about to get all wiley about.

          2) Endorsement of Civilian casualties.

          So basically, like a fool, you wandered into a thread that criticized Karzai’s utter lack of diplomacy with the Afghan people and somehow became rabid enough with rage to attempt to stop that criticism with the claim that the Taliban kill Civilians.

          Regarding civilian deaths and the Taliban insurgency, you don’t really need me to answer that for you. The Afghan civilian himself can answer who he holds responsible for civilian deaths. Your farsiwaan colleague put himself in an intellectual Chinese fingertrap of the mind when he posted these videos, yet he provided us with a trove of evidences:

          I wont really take the time to rewrite the answer to your idiotic commentary above, so Ill just cut and paste what I answered your colleague previously here:

          http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...afghans-17819/
          ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

          Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

          Take a look at the first video 2.33 minutes and 2.45 minutes into it when that old refugee AbduRahman is speaking. Who does he support and see as, in the words of the narrator, Afghanistan's saviors? He says the Taliban. Who does he see as responsible for civilian deaths? The NATO forces and the specifically the US. It matters little if this is true or not, this preception is basically supported by other reports coming out of Kandahar and other places where the southern Pashtuns (make no excuses by attempting to interject KP Pashtuns in here) view NATO as an occupying force. A few sets of anecdotal evidences are making this an apparent thing:

          1) Karzai has to dance the two step by denouncing NATO as using occupier tactics, while at the same time serving them (he knows his bread comes from NATO, but he knows that the populace is weary of NATO).

          "Why did he (Karzai) have to? He was propped up by Americans, British and Canadians who were spending billions that lined his and his friends’ pockets. His camp’s been fighting theiropposition for decades (although alliances have often shifted), so why give them a share of the pot?

          http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks

          2) "And so the cycle began. We add more troops, which strengthens the Taliban and weakens support for the government. Suicide attacks, IEDs, military and civilian dead or wounded—all rise commensuratelywith eachincrease in foreign troop or Afghan government presence. We misunderstand many ofthecauses of support for the Taliban. They didn’t wear sandwich boards or hand out pamphlets to win people. They are the Pashtuns. Most don’t want to rule the country. They just want to get rid of the occupiers."

          http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks

          3) This sentiment has even seeped into Kabul:

          "Enayatullah Balegh is a professor at Kabul University and preaches on Fridays in the largest mosque in central Kabul, where he advocates jihad, or holy war, against foreigners who desecrate Islam."

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7390ZV20110410

          The bottom line?: The flat earth society members make the mistake that the average Afghan civilian does not. In their effort to play pin the tail on the donkey in regard to civilian deaths the flat earth society members miss the big picture. The Civilian construct of how civilian deaths occur is as follows per the evidences above:

          1) Taliban in power: relative calm and peace --> 2) US invades --> 3) Taliban utilize assymetric tactics and guerilla warfare to fight a superiorly armed and air force backed military --> 4) Civilians die as a consequence of step 2

          In the Flat Earth Society construct, or propaganda (take your pick):

          1) Pakistanis dressed as Pashtuns invade Afghanistan and take over the country with little effort --> 2) Karzai is a white knight on a white horse (never mind his thievery, incomptence, and the freedom loving US comes in and aids him kicking out the "Pakistanis" that were all somehow born in Afghan villages (this is anti reality remember?) --> 3) the ISI proceeds on killing civilians, but poses as insurgents --> 4) No Civilian supports the Taliban.


          well said, but these fools dont care about Afghan people at all. Its all a front. I mean you have one clown who has relatives working for NDS, and then this clown talks about sympathy for people in night raids/ airstrikes. It is all an act.

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          • #35
            Awa khbara ba za hem walkem ......

            Krazy da Wazir Neka Spaka wakra..............

            mung pray marwar (khafa) yu khu saba

            ka da Krazy pa za ka Saba Abduallah raghay ?.........

            awo ya SALEH rashi ?.....
            .....


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            • #36
              Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
              niazi, what is your reaction to the night raids/ airstrikes that kill thousands of Afghans?

              You do not care about them. The US presence is the sole barrier to peace in Afghanistan.
              I condemn in the strongest word whoever kill innocent afghan life weather it's night raid by yankees or beheading by ISI proxies ie Taliban ,now you turn BACHO

              I also want your opinion on Taliban to keep attacking ordinary road workers.???????
              Last edited by Niazi; 06-07-2011, 05:36 PM.
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              • #37
                US presence is the sole reason for all of this happening. Their presence is the cause of all of this.
                Last edited by Guest; 06-07-2011, 07:35 PM.

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                • #38
                  You didnot answer my question ,
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                  • #39
                    Foreign intervention, primarily US intervention is the cause for all the instability in Afghanistan, and the rest of the region.

                    Thats your answer

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Niazi View Post
                      محترمه روره شاغلي باركزي صاحب

                      تاسو غبركون د ودبو به باره كي سه دي

                      YouTube - ‪Kabul Bank Shooting in Jalalabad, 40 dead‬‏

                      In case you can't read pakhto ,here what i want to ask you give me yes or no answer

                      What's your reaction about the vedio ?
                      First off, its spelled "video."

                      Second, I answered you chrystal clear, but you are perpetually propagandizing for the farsiwaan and for the Western expat failures and technocrats. The ball is not in your court,, you lost the right to an answer to any of your questions. You have been decimated and did not answer a singal point above. I'll answer your question again, for the second time, once you deal with this VIDEO:

                      A) Answer the Pashtun refugee with a confirmed Afghan identity card, Abdurrahman, in this VIDEO:

                      Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

                      Take a look at the first video 2.33 minutes and 2.45 minutes into it when that old refugee AbduRahman is speaking. Who does he support and see as, in the words of the narrator, Afghanistan's saviors? He says the Taliban. Who does he see as responsible for civilian deaths? The NATO forces and the specifically the US. It matters little if this is true or not, this preception is basically supported by other reports coming out of Kandahar and other places where the southern Pashtuns (make no excuses by attempting to interject KP Pashtuns in here) view NATO as an occupying force.

                      B) Deal with Hoh's observation and analysis with a clear cogent essay.

                      I dont give a s-h-i-t about your ISI accusations which are meant to be even more propaganda. Go ahead and label me ISI kaka for all I care.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                        First off, its spelled "video."

                        Second, I answered you chrystal clear, but you are perpetually propagandizing for the farsiwaan and for the Western expat failures and technocrats. The ball is not in your court,, you lost the right to an answer to any of your questions. You have been decimated and did not answer a singal point above. I'll answer your question again, for the second time, once you deal with this VIDEO:

                        A) Answer the Pashtun refugee with a confirmed Afghan identity card, Abdurrahman, in this VIDEO:

                        Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

                        Take a look at the first video 2.33 minutes and 2.45 minutes into it when that old refugee AbduRahman is speaking. Who does he support and see as, in the words of the narrator, Afghanistan's saviors? He says the Taliban. Who does he see as responsible for civilian deaths? The NATO forces and the specifically the US. It matters little if this is true or not, this preception is basically supported by other reports coming out of Kandahar and other places where the southern Pashtuns (make no excuses by attempting to interject KP Pashtuns in here) view NATO as an occupying force.

                        B) Deal with Hoh's observation and analysis with a clear cogent essay.

                        I dont give a s-h-i-t about your ISI accusations which are meant to be even more propaganda. Go ahead and label me ISI kaka for all I care.
                        As a human biegn You two failed miserably to condemn a barbaric act by Taliban to civilian Or killing of road worker in Paktia ,I pity you two I really do ,

                        for the farsiwaan
                        Yeh really coming from somebody who call himself ,abdalibarkzai,

                        do you see The deference between me and you ,I see people as my country men and women not by their ethnic affiliation.
                        Btw From Ahmad shah to zahir shah barkzai all of them were farsiwan,

                        A) Answer the Pashtun refugee with a confirmed Afghan identity card, Abdurrahman, in this VIDEO:
                        I myself grew up in camp in Pakistan so I dont have to listen to CNN to tell,refugee life is hard ,I lived through it .

                        its spelled "video
                        Oh tanx a bunch for my spelling correction ,as u can see I been brought up to learn my Own language first,
                        Last edited by Niazi; 06-08-2011, 01:50 PM.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Niazi View Post
                          As a human biegn You two failed miserably to condemn a barbaric act by Taliban to civilian Or killing of road worker in Paktia ,I pity you two I really do ,



                          Yeh really coming from somebody who call himself ,abdalibarkzai,

                          do you see The deference between me and you ,I see people as my country men and women not by their ethnic affiliation.
                          Btw From Ahmad shah to zahir shah barkzai all of them were farsiwan,



                          I myself grew up in camp in Pakistan so I dont have to listen to CNN to tell,refugee life is hard ,I lived through it .
                          .
                          Can you please translate this garbage into into English? Let's see thus far you have evaded the questions and accomplished little but unraveling your own propaganda.
                          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                          • #43
                            One day, inshallah, all taliban will be dead.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                              .
                              Can you please translate this garbage into into English? Let's see thus far you have evaded the questions and accomplished little but unraveling your own propaganda.
                              Ahhh don't get your pants into twist mate,tell me which part u didn't undertstsnd so I can break it down for you ,

                              I can write it for u in pakhto, oh sorry u can't read pakhto , how about Dari then.
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                              • #45
                                Dari is the language of the rich opressors, Pashto is the language of the native people (before which was Sankrit (sp?)---the name of the language the Buddhists used before Muslims came and decimated the area.)

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