Pakistan is a Terrorist State

[pir_Rokhan]

Compliments to Kamran Khan and GEO TV for accepting the truth. [The video is in URDU]


YouTube - ‪Kamran Khan: Pak is a Terrorist State‬‏

[Nokia_Apridy]

Yu tapos ....Pir lala Kamran khan manay ?...

[pir_Rokhan]

Troper
Rishtia pa khalko bad lagee....

[graveyardofempires]

pakistan is terrorising pukhtane
there is no freedom in pukhtunkhwa an dif you say one thing against napak state they would eliminate you.

[afghan]

[QUOTE=pir_Rokhan;441773]Compliments to Kamran Khan and GEO TV for accepting the truth. [The video is in URDU]


the tragedy is that pakistani accept it, but the USA is still pouring the $.

[Nokia_Apridy]

Troper
Rishtia pa khalko bad lagee....

na khudat da na ke za da Iran Parsiwan na yam lala

da rata waya chat zma swol zob roka.......

awo / awo kna ?

[Toramana]

PAKISTAN government's spy agency was involved in planning the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, a US court has heard.

David Coleman Headley, a US-Pakistani who has already pleaded guilty to helping plan the massacre, told a Chicago court Pakistan's notorious Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) supported the Kashmir-based terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba ...

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/spy-agen...#ixzz1NHofkWQX

BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/india/2011...shker_sz.shtml

[Karachi]

There is no doubt that pakistan has become a homeland of terrorists, only a blind person would not admit this

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Pakistan just as US, Afghanistan and many more states is not a terrorist state and even if it is a terrorist state than because it is forced to be one. The anti-Pakistan governments of Afghanistan gave them many reasons to do anything possible to prevent a devision of Pakistan and at the same time to do the same thing to Afghanistan that the country can get weak and manipulative. Just read your racist remarks on Pakistan and than tell me if their choice establishing or recruting Pashtuns of Pakistan against Afghanistan is not legitimated. Of course, that´s a very bad thing but we provoked them. They are by far more educated and better developed than we are. That´s the reason why they have a very easy game with us. Their elitists are connected with the best universities, constitutions, banks, governments around the world. We can not say the same about ourself. As long Pakistan see reasons to use Taliban and other terror networks against it´s national interests they will feel free to use them. I even say that´s their right. The same thing we would do against Pakistan if we would be in their shoes.

[Toramana]

Pakistan just as US, Afghanistan and many more states is not a terrorist state and even if it is a terrorist state than because it is forced to be one. The anti-Pakistan governments of Afghanistan gave them many reasons to do anything possible to prevent a devision of Pakistan and at the same time to do the same thing to Afghanistan that the country can get weak and manipulative. Just read your racist remarks on Pakistan and than tell me if their choice establishing or recruting Pashtuns of Pakistan against Afghanistan is not legitimated. Of course, that´s a very bad thing but we provoked them. They are by far more educated and better developed than we are. That´s the reason why they have a very easy game with us. Their elitists are connected with the best universities, constitutions, banks, governments around the world. We can not say the same about ourself. As long Pakistan see reasons to use Taliban and other terror networks against it´s national interests they will feel free to use them. I even say that´s their right. The same thing we would do against Pakistan if we would be in their shoes.

What about Pakistan's four self-provoked wars with India and its Kashmir policy not to mention its use of jehadi groups to retain foothold in the region and as deterance?



Why should you justify Pashtun division although I know division of Pashtuns is in the interest of certain group currently holding power in Kabul.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

What about Pakistan's four self-provoked wars with India and its Kashmir policy not to mention its use of jehadi groups to retain foothold in the region and as deterance?



Why should you justify Pashtun division although I know division of Pashtuns is in the interest of certain group currently holding power in Kabul.

I do not justify any kind of devision. Neither of Pakistan or Afghanistan. I just say that we self provoked Pakistan by our anti-Pakistani government. We had already did the same if we had Pakistani´s place. The Kashmir issue is an islamic and Indian issue. Pakistan did not use anyone. There were the so-called Mujaheddins and the islamic movement such as was in Afghanistan against Soviet. Pakistan see Kashmir as an islamic region and thus support Muslims and the islamists. They also supported islamists in Afghanistan.

[pir_Rokhan]

There is no doubt that pakistan has become a homeland of terrorists, only a blind person would not admit this

Pakistan used to be a federation comprising of proud Pashtuns, submissive Punjabis, sweet Sindhis , serene Seraikis , brave Baloch and meticulous Mahajirs.

Thanks to the Military cum civil bureaucracy and establishment of Pakistan which has made it a living hell and hub of terrorism due to her autocratic , commercialised , exploitative and Lahore-centered policies.

[pir_Rokhan]

na khudat da na ke za da Iran Parsiwan na yam lala

da rata waya chat zma swol zob roka.......

awo / awo kna ?

Tata kho khabara kawal sanda ta rabab ghagol de kho bia hum khabara dey na ghurzawam. Zama pa khyal:

Za khpal zanee kho yaw pakay hum na manam zaka che hum dwee sara kho zamung jung dey.

Za ke yaw ya bal pakay quote kawam no da zaka che pakyano ta hum da haghwee da khalko khabaray maana laree .Nor da tolay narray pohaan werta lewanaee khkaree.

[Toramana]

I do not justify any kind of devision. Neither of Pakistan or Afghanistan. I just say that we self provoked Pakistan by our anti-Pakistani government. We had already did the same if we had Pakistani´s place. The Kashmir issue is an islamic and Indian issue. Pakistan did not use anyone. There were the so-called Mujaheddins and the islamic movement such as was in Afghanistan against Soviet. Pakistan see Kashmir as an islamic region and thus support Muslims and the islamists. They also supported islamists in Afghanistan.

Kabulzada, when you say some Pashtuns are associated with Dari while others with Urdu, you imply the division of Pashtuns in Iranian and South-Asian speheres of influence. Many Pashtuns see a cultural and political agenda associated with such categorization of Pashtuns. The irony is, such categorization doesn't take into account the factors e.g., history, values, heroes, language, etc. that bind the two Pashtuns togethor and only highlight the differences which are political in nature. For example, how much is a man of Khost or for that matter Paktiya associated with Dari?

Rest as for Germony, Russia, etc. being multi-ethnic states, I don't think Pakistan or Afghanistan could be equated with them in any sense democracy, political systems, human rights, etc.

Although, the unique geography of Pashtuns is such that they have to interact with both the worls i.e., Middle East (Iran) and South Asia and you find Pashtuns that can speak three languages (either Pashto, Urdu, English or Pashto, Dari, and English) or even four languages (Pashto, Dari, Urdu, English), which is of course an asset rather than a liability, still many Pashtuns think they don't have a state or a region of their own where their culture would pre-dominate and feel the need for some form of unity either in an independent Pashtun state or a regional arrangement guaranteeing Pashtun unity and an autonomous space to Pashtun culture and language for growth (without any pressure from neighbouring civilizations).

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Kabulzada, when you say some Pashtuns are associated with Dari while others with Urdu, you imply the division of Pashtuns in Iranian and South-Asian speheres of influence. Many Pashtuns see a cultural and political agenda associated with such categorization of Pashtuns. The irony is, such categorization doesn't take into account the factors e.g., history, values, heroes, language, etc. that bind the two Pashtuns togethor and only highlight the differences which are political in nature. For example, how much is a man of Khost or for that matter Paktiya associated with Dari?

The ordinery Pashtun can understand Dari and speak it. 80% of all Pashtuns I met can speak with me in Dari, even those from Zabul province or Khowst. That´s the difference between Pathans and Pashtuns. In addition, Afghanistan´s media is dominated by Dari (80%?) which automatically teachs non-Darizubans the language. The common language does not change the fact that both groups are influenced differently. The Pathans are close to non-Pathans and while in Afghanistan the Pashtuns get close to non-Pashtuns. Persian-speaking Iranians and Farsiwan or even all Darizubans of Afghanistan share also a lot, even their ethnical background, but should we call for a unification with Iran? If Darizubans want it they would be 100% succesful because they have the political power and the intellects and there is no real threat to them that could stop them but they don´t do it.

Rest as for Germony, Russia, etc. being multi-ethnic states, I don't think Pakistan or Afghanistan could be equated with them in any sense democracy, political systems, human rights, etc.

My example was just for the name and citizenship of all Pakistanis. Of course one can not adequate Pakistan with Germany. It´s like fire and water.

Although, the unique geography of Pashtuns is such that they have to interact with both the worls i.e., Middle East (Iran) and South Asia and you find Pashtuns that can speak three languages (either Pashto, Urdu, English or Pashto, Dari, and English) or even four languages (Pashto, Dari, Urdu, English), which is of course an asset rather than a liability, still many Pashtuns think they don't have a state or a region of their own where their culture would pre-dominate and understand the need for some form of unity either in an independent Pashtun state or a regional arrangement guaranteeing Pashtun unity and an autonomous space to Pashtun culture and language for growth.

Why should they dominate in culture a country? As long they can live among themself, speak their language freely, practize Pashtu and speak Pashtu there won´t be any problems, even if Afghanistan would be dominated to 95% by non-Pashtuns. Noone force Pashtuns to give up their identities. They dominate only there where their figure all other ethnicities and that´s mostly their regions around Kandahar, Helmand, Paktia, Khost, Khaybar ... you know? Actually, these regions could be a official country for Pashtuns and their nationality. They do not even need any borders against non-Pashtuns. As long this large region keep as bulk for Pashtuns they can call it as watan and proclaim per referendum an independance of the region but not by force.