Fake and real future MAPS of Pashtunlands

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

How so when it were Pashtuns who were the most revolutionary and against the system right from beginning. Taraki was the father of all commies. Parchamis were little sissies. Khalqis were smart enough not to be used by Parchamis and after overthrowing Daud they purged the Parchamis or exiled most of them. Daud Khan himself acted too heavy-handed against the capable Khalqis. If it wasn't for Ruski comrades and friends and their constant request not only one Parchami would have been left behind. Thick mutached Khalqis used to make woose Parchamis sing like kanary. Both Khalqis and Parchamis were doomed and that is what happened.

Khalqis represented the Pakistanis while Parchams were native of Kabul. They were used like tools. Why only Parcham survived while Khalqis died? Even their own russian brothers killed many of them and called them traitors.

Back to topic. Before dreaming about a non-existent state within Afghanistan and Pakistan you people first need to overthrow the Panjabis who now threat all Pashtuns if they follow their claims on an utopic country called Pashtunistan

YouTube - ‪If Pashtunistan is made Pak Punjabis will Nuclear Bomb India, Afghanistan, Pashtuns & Russia‬‏

He repeats the same what I wrote earlier on that topic some pages ago. Just look for my comments.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Listen you joker, your types have barely been aourd Afghanistan or know what is what. You should go and visit Herat, I say this because I have a large family and relation with the provice. No less than 80% of the province is Pashtun, I am not talking about the city. Farsiwan Heratis don't consider themselves Tajiks, Tajik is a non-entity.

Stop fooling yourself and your own brothers and sisters. You just claim this emotional or you really believe in the crap youself claim. If Pashtuns are majority why the population do not speak in Pashtu like in Kandahar, Khost, Paktia, Zabul ...? Tomorrow I move to Panjab or to Dubai. Why should the native and dominant population accept my language and give their own up? I need to integrate myself into their society, not because I love their culture or society but because they are dominant.

http://uwf.edu/atcdev/Afghanistan/Geography/Cities2.swf

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This are two more references. You need to prove your claim Pashtuns beeing dominate in Herat. Their numbers are between 7% and 11% or 12% and no more. If you would ever had visited Herat than you would know that even the Pashtuns there are anti-Pashtuns and many of them claim beeing Tajiks. You just make fake propagandas here. Prove your claim by sources.

''The population of Herat numbers approximately 397,500.[19] The exact figures on ethnic groups is unavailable but most sources state that Persian-speaking Tajiks are the main inhabitants of the city, and are roughly the same as the Persians of eastern Iran.[20][21] According to a 2003 National Geographic suggested estimate, Tajiks form about 85% of the city population.Pashto-speaking Pashtuns come second at 10%, followed by Shia Hazaras at 2%, Uzbeks at 2%, and Turkmens at 1%.[22]''

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0311/feature2/images/mp_download.2.pdf

''The population of the province is estimated at 1,762,157 people. Persian-speaking Tajik form the majority.[3] 98% of the population speak Dari Persian[4] others speaks Pashto, Turkmen or Uzbek.''

http://www.mrrd.gov.af/nabdp/provincial%20profiles/herat%20pdp%20provincial%20profile.pdf

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

There is no suck thing as a Pakistani, if you are Panjabi, you are Panjabi (Indian) if you are Pashtun, you are Pashtun (Afghan) if you are an Urdu-speaking Mohajir, you are an Indian Muslim if you are Baloch, you are Baloch, if you are Kashmiri, you are an Indian and if you are Sindhi, you are still Inidan.

Thank you.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

There is no suck thing as a Pakistani, if you are Panjabi, you are Panjabi (Indian) if you are Pashtun, you are Pashtun (Afghan) if you are an Urdu-speaking Mohajir, you are an Indian Muslim if you are Baloch, you are Baloch, if you are Kashmiri, you are an Indian and if you are Sindhi, you are still Inidan.

Thank you.

But all those Pashtuns in Pakistan are Pakistanis. By citizen and national. That´s what their visums say. Nowhere they are mentioned as ''Afghans''. Pakistani does not mean Panjabi. Pakistan, like many other states in the region is a multi-ethnical state. Beside that, today the term ''Afghan'' is connected with Dari and it´s speakers while Pakistani or Pathan are connected with Pakhtu or Urdu.

[Karachi]

Pakistan is a not a race or ethnic group, it is a federation of different ethnic groups, infact in pakistan there are over all 15-20 different ethnic groups overall

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

^ Exactly there are no Pakistanis.

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

Beside that, today the term ''Afghan'' is connected with Dari and it´s speakers while Pakistani or Pathan are connected with Pakhtu or Urdu.

Bachem tu chi fekar kuni ke Afghan haa faqat Dari harf mezanen? Maa 32 zaban haa daarem wa zyaad az 50%e Afghan haa har du Farsi o Pashto gap mezanen and Urdu is only the mother toungue of perhaps one of the most hated ethnic group in Pakistan anyway.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

^ Exactly there are no Pakistanis.

There is no Pakistani race but there is a Pakistani nation made of different tribes and ethnical origins with a common race. There are Pashtuns who are Pakistanis, there are Baluchs who are Pakistanis, there are Sindhis who are Pakistanis and so on. The citizen of Pakistan are Pakistanis. Such the citizen of Germany is German, of United States of America is American. America is also not a race or ethnicity. Today, Pathans are Pakistanis and Pashtuns are Afghans. The one side is related with Dari and the other is related with Urdu and Panjabi.

Bachem tu chi fekar kuni ke Afghan haa faqat Dari harf mezanen? Maa 32 zaban haa daarem wa zyaad az 50%e Afghan haa har du Farsi o Pashto gap mezanen and Urdu is only the mother toungue of perhaps one of the most hated ethnic group in Pakistan anyway.

Urdu is the national language of Pakistan. It has no ethnicity. It is a language that consists of Persian (+ Dari), Arabic, Turkic, Mongol, Sindhi, Panjabis, Gujjarati ... It is used for inter-ethnical and inter-cultural communication, followed by English.

Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents born in the territory now constituting Pakistan and not residing permanently in another country since 14 August, 1947 (Pakistan's independence day).

Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents born or having lived in the territories constituting India on the 31 March, 1937

Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents naturalised as a British subject in Pakistan.

Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents who migrated to Pakistan from any territory in the Indo-Pakistan sub-continent.

Every individual born in Pakistan following the enactment of the legislation would automatically become a citizen of Pakistan.

http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refworld/rwmain?docid=3ae6b4ffa

There are no Afghans in Pakistan, except refugees from Afghanistan who moved there for 30years ago.

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

^ That is what I meant, no ethnic Pakistanis.

Urdu is the native language of the Mohajirs and it is basically the Khari-boli dialect of the Hindustani language, with loanwords from Persian, Arabic, Turkish and other "Muslim" languages.

English is a mark of imperialism.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

^ That is what I meant, no ethnic Pakistanis.

Urdu is the native language of the Mohajirs and it is basically the Khari-boli dialect of the Hindustani language, with loanwords from Persian, Arabic, Turkish and other "Muslim" languages.

English is a mark of imperialism.

Yes, and that´s why it is correct to call the population there, no matter which ethnical background they have, Pakistanis.

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

^ Where do you live?

[khushal]

But all those Pashtuns in Pakistan are Pakistanis. By citizen and national. That´s what their visums say. Nowhere they are mentioned as ''Afghans''. Pakistani does not mean Panjabi. Pakistan, like many other states in the region is a multi-ethnical state. Beside that, today the term ''Afghan'' is connected with Dari and it´s speakers while Pakistani or Pathan are connected with Pakhtu or Urdu.

Your stupidity has over whelmed you. Afghan has and will always be Pashtun. You farsibans always wish to associate yourselves with the historical pride and achievements that comes with "Afghan." Why don't you and your people go and accomplish something great and make a name for your own ethnicity instead of always attaching yourself to us.

Ever since Darius was being chased by boy lover Alexander You farsibans have always seeked protection from the Afghans like the women folk that you are and When the Soviets came down on you in Tajikland, you cowards begged Afghans for refuge. Stop clinging on to Afghans and man up.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Your stupidity has over whelmed you. Afghan has and will always be Pashtun. You farsibans always wish to associate yourselves with the historical pride and achievements that comes with "Afghan."

According to the law of Afghanistan ''Afghans'' are only those who live within Afghanistan. How many enemies had Afghanistan who were Pathan origin? That´s also a reason why the term Afghan has lost it´s original meaning with Afghan. Today, everyone in the world cognate the term Afghan with Dari, Maulana, Ibn Sina, the countries food, national sport...which represent mainly the northern and north-eastern part of the country, all the urban and historical places. About which achivements are you talking? Can you bring on example? Seriously, you are confused and have read to much fantasy books or listened to much fake propagandas about Pashtuns this and that.

Ever since Darius was being chased by boy lover Alexander You farsibans have always seeked protection from the Afghans like the women folk that you are and When the Soviets came down on you in Tajikland, you cowards begged Afghans for refuge. Stop clinging on to Afghans and man up.

haha .... bring one prove. Pashtuns did not exist then. In fact, the hardest fights where Alexander nearly had been killed was in Herat, Kapisa and Samarkand (3times and), regions that are still populated by the descandants of those anicnet people today known as Tajiks. All other regions were no problems for him. Even the Indian tribes were defeated by him easily with his Sogdian-Persian-Bactrian footsoldiers who became the most loyal soldiers of his entire troup. http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexander12.html . The Mongols and Turks were defeated by Tajiks of Herat and Ghor, they became Darizuban´s servants and tools to establish themself from modern Afghanistan to Vienna in the west and to Bengal in the east. Can you provide such a meaningfull influence and power, too? There was no power who had not ruled Pashtuns. From Alexander, Darius to British and you still claim beeing never defeated? Why alone Babur had 32 Pashtun wifes? Go and read some real history. You are an ignorant person knowing not much about the world, except believing any good fantasies but unfortunately not real stories about Pashtuns. From Persians, Indians, Mongols, Arabs, Turks and all other power you were several times defeated but you still reject you are not conquered. Come on. Even the soviets proved they can make a very easy deal with Pashtuns. What did Pashtuns against the Soviets? Nothing. Instead supporting their brothers in the north and west they were attacking Kabul and killing innocent people. How many innocent people did Gulbuddin killed who just wanted to leave the country or other real Mujaheddins and their fractions? He killed more people than the entire Soviet army 10 years long in Afghanistan. Now, I am very interested how many examples you will provide what Pashtuns have achieved.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

so the term ethnic afghan no longer applies to pashtuns?

asalamu alaikum brother,

the term Afghan lost it´s historical meaning in the past 45 years. In term (Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmen, Nuristanis, Tajiks etc became Afghans by term), language, culture and identity. There is no ethnic Afghan. You can talk about ethnic Pashtuns but no more about ethnic Afghans. Hazaras are not Pashtuns to conclude them in this non-existent ethnicity.

[کیش]

so the term ethnic afghan no longer applies to pashtuns?

Please don't listen to that clown. Just let him say what he is dying to say, but don't pay it no mind.

An Hazara, Turkmen, Nuristani Tajik will also be Hazaras, Turkmen, Nuristani and Tajik. While Afghan=Pashtun