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    Pakistani Ex-Servicemen Help Imran Khan Block Supplies to NATO Forces in Afghanistan

    Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 9 Issue: 20
    May 20, 2011 11:35 AM Age: 1 days
    Category: Terrorism Monitor, Global Terrorism Analysis, Home Page, Featured, Military/Security, South Asia, Afghanistan
    By: Arif Jamal

    As the date for the drawdown of NATO troops in Afghanistan nears, some Pakistani ex-servicemen and cricket hero turned politician Imran Khan are working on a two-pronged plan to prevent the movement of logistical supplies for NATO troops in Afghanistan through Pakistan. On the one hand, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) is encouraging Imran Khan to lead right-wing and jihadist groups to stage sit-ins so that the supply route to Afghanistan can be blocked whenever desired, while on the other hand it is encouraging the Lashkar-e-Islam (LI) militant group in the Khyber Agency to accelerate jihadist activities there to render it impenetrable for trucks carrying supplies to NATO forces in Afghanistan. [1] Former ISI chief Lieutenant General Hamid Gul is the chief handler of this operation (for Gul, see Terrorism Monitor, January 28). Gul held a meeting with some former servicemen and jihadist commanders in Swabi (Khyber-Pukhtoonkhwa province) in mid-April where they decided to increase their efforts to interrupt the supply route. [2]

    Small right-wing parties and jihadist groups have been building public opinion and applying pressure on the Pakistani government to have the drone attacks stopped or to limit them to militants opposing the Pakistani Army. Recently, the ISI gave the go-ahead to Hamid Gul to implement the plan to block the main highway used by the truckers who carry supplies to Afghanistan through Khyber-Pukhtoonkhwa province. According to Gul’s plan, Imran Khan was to call for a two-day sit-in to block the highway in Peshawar on April 23-24 (For Gul’s relations with Khan, see Asia Times, April 20). Although the sit-in was launched with a lot of fanfare, it failed to attract large crowds. Only a few small parties, such as the Tehrik-i-Istiqlal of Rehmat Khan Wardag and the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam, led by Maulana Samiul Haq, publicly announced their support (Dawn [Karachi], April 23). However, some members of the Deobandi jihadist parties, including the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) and Harakat ul-Jihad al-Islami (HuJI), were at the event. [3] Although the popular Imran Khan had been predicting millions of people at the sit-in, observers put the number at between 3,000 and 4,000.

    Nevertheless, the Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI – Pakistan Movement for Justice), founded by Imran Khan, has announced a second attempt to block NATO supplies with a two-day sit-in on May 21-22 in Karachi. The announcement came in response to a U.S. drone strike that killed 15 people in North Waziristan on May 6 (Express Tribune, May 8).

    In his address to the April sit-in, Imran Khan vowed to continue staging such events until the United States stopped drone attacks in the Pakistani tribal areas. He asked the government to abandon its policy of hypocrisy and openly oppose the drone attacks. Khan threatened that if the Americans did not stop the drone attacks, his party would march on Islamabad (Dawn, April 24; April 25).

    In an interview with an Australian daily, Khan demanded that Pakistan reject further American aid:

    "The biggest lesson to learn [from the U.S. raid in Abbottabad] is that Pakistan should stand on its own feet, say no to aid and be a sovereign country. Our government policies have been dictated by aid, they have enslaved us by aid… If the government had roots in its own people and was not perceived as an American puppet, then you could control terrorism in Pakistan… As we have been accused as harboring the world's biggest terrorist that means any act of terrorism that takes place anywhere, all fingers will be pointing at Pakistan" (The Age [Melbourne], May 12).

    General Gul’s plan to block NATO supplies includes accelerating jihadi violence in the tribal areas, particularly in the Khyber Agency, where violence seems to be spinning out of control recently. The idea is to make it difficult for the truckers to pass through the Khyber Agency. The number of kidnappings and murders in the agency has gone up considerably in recent weeks. Attacks on security forces are also on the rise:

    • On March 6, militants kidnapped four paramilitary personnel and killed one of them. His body was dumped on the roadside with a warning not to remove it for some time so that it would instill fear in the people (Dawn, March 7).

    • A suicide bomber struck the funeral of the wife of an anti-militant lashkar member in Adezai (an area between Peshawar and the Khyber Agency), killing 43 people and wounding 53 (The News [Islamabad], March 14; Daily Times [Lahore], March 12, Dawn, March 10).

    • Militants blew up a bridge, a school and a convoy of security forces on March 14 (Dawn, March 15).

    • Militants destroyed two bridges in the Khyber Agency on March 17 (Dawn, March 18).

    • An attack on a paramilitary training center in Charsadda (near Peshawar) killed 98 people and wounded over 100 (AFP, May 17; The News, May 14).

    • Five oil tankers carrying NATO fuel supplies were destroyed by a bomb in Torkham on May 13 (The News, May 14; AFP, May 16)

    The killing and destruction unleashed by the militants in the Khyber Agency and its environs continues to this day.

    The situation took a new turn on March 21 when Lashkar-i-Islam militants kidnapped Maulana Hashim, an Islamic scholar belonging to the Zakhakhel tribe, and killed him a day later (Dawn, March 23; see Terrorism Monitor, April 28, 2011). This infuriated the Zakakhel tribe, which declared war on Lashkar-i-Islam. The advancing Zakhakhel militia attacked the LI and pushed them out of the Zakhakhel-bazaar area, presenting the group with a major setback (Dawn, April 3). The bloody fighting between the two armed groups continues as the Zakhakhel militia does not want to stop fighting without getting custody of the killers of Maulana Hashim (The News [Islamabad] April 6). The fighting has displaced hundreds of families in the Khyber Agency (Daily Times [Lahore], April 10). According to credible sources in Khyber Agency, it is the bloodiest episode of violence there in the last few years and has left the Agency unsafe for travel. [4]

    In view of the emerging situation in the Khyber Agency and the expectation of further attacks following the assassination of Osama bin Laden, the United States and NATO may not find it easy to receive supplies through the Khyber Agency after they start drawing down their troops in July 2011. This route may not be blocked permanently, but it is not likely to remain open without interruption either. Some commentators and the main Pakistani opposition party, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, have accused the ISI of trying to make Imran Khan the next prime minister of the country. If the ISI succeeds in their plan to interrupt this vital supply route it may spell disaster for NATO troops in Afghanistan.

    Notes:

    1. See afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/04/15/choking_off_pakistan_us_relations.
    2. Author’s interview with a local journalist from Khyber-Pukhtoonkhwa who requested anonymity, April 2011.
    3. Author’s interview with a journalist who covered the event and requested anonymity, April 2011.
    4. Author’s interview with a journalist in Khyber Agency who requested anonymity, April 2011.

    http://www.jamestown.org/uploads/media/TM_009_43.pdf

    http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_...68285f4d69e2ee
    Last edited by Toramana; 05-21-2011, 09:36 PM.

  • #2
    "In the second week of March, Khan held a long meeting with the US ambassador in Islamabad, Cameron Munter. A few days later a major shift in his politics surprised many. Khan produced a statement supportive of MQM policies despite formerly filing a money laundering case against MQM leader Altaf Hussain in a British court.
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    Imran Khan captained the winning Pakistani cricket team in the 1992 World Cup in Australia and returned to Pakistan a national hero. He then pursued the cause of establishing a free cancer hospitals in memory of his deceased mother Shaukat Khanum, who died of cancer.

    At the same time, Lieutenant-General Hamid Gul retired from the Pakistan Army and began working on a new plan for the future leadership of the country. He chose three prominent Pakistanis; namely, former governor, renowned social worker and reformer Hakim Mohammad Saeed, the social worker and philanthropist Abdul Sattar Edhi, and Imran Khan. Saeed refused to take part in politics, and was gunned down in front of his clinic in 1998. Edhi left Pakistan in the mid 1990s, alleging that Pakistani intelligence was trying to force him into politics. Imran Khan agreed to take a political role.

    The transformation of an Oxford University political sciences graduate seen as a sex symbol in the West into a politician who penned articles in leading Urdu newspapers against the Western lifestyle and Westernized thinking in Pakistan stunned many.

    After the October 12, 1999 military coup, Khan jumped on Musharraf’s bandwagon but by 2003 he had distanced himself from the president.
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    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MD20Df01.html

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    • #3
      The Army and ISI are using this man like a tissue paper. This man doesn't have a popular support and country-wide political basis a fact that the military establishment of Pakistan knows very well. Some analyst fear PML(N) might harm him.

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      • #5
        LAHORE, April 5: While the Musharraf League is not denying Musharraf-Imran contacts, it says efforts are under way to form a `major alliance` of different political parties other than PPP and PML-N to give an alternate leadership.

        “We have started making efforts to form an alliance of Mutahidda Quami Movement (MQM), Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI), All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) and breakaway factions of Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) in next general elections so that people have option other than PPP and PML-N,” Fawad Chaudhry, spokesman for Musharraf`s APML, told Dawn. He said the people wanted an alternate leadership that could steer the country out of crises and address their problems.

        To a question about rumours of Imran Khan`s meeting with former army chief president Pervez Musharraf in London, Chaudhry said: “The party does not deny nor confirm about the meeting, however, it wants Mr Khan to join hands with us for the larger interest of the country. Imran was critical of Musharraf when the latter was a military chief now he is a politician.”

        Chaudhry said several breakaway leaders of PML-Q were in contact with Gen Musharraf and had assured him of their support. “Shiekh Rashid had two meetings with Musharraf and S. M. Zafar and Makhdoom Ahmed Mahmood are in London to see him,” he said.
        The PTI, however, categorically denies saying no such meeting has taken place. “These are rumours. However, the PTI is open for a dialogue with any political party despite ideological differences,” PTI spokesman Omar Sarfraz Cheema said. He said Imran Khan was a credible leader the masses were looking up for salvage. To a question, Cheema said the PML-N was worried over the growing popularity of PTI. “The PTI will emerge a strong political force in the next elections,” he said.

        Though some political leaders are reported to have meetings with Musharraf, no body is ready to admit it. Sheikh Rashid, president of Awami Muslim League, only confirmed that he had a “hand shake” with Musharraf in a wedding in Dubai a few months ago. “That was all about my meetings with the former army chief,” outspoken Rashid said. A senior leader of the PML-Q who wished not to be named said: “Only a politically naïve leaders can think joining hands with Musharraf seeing his popularity in Pakistan,” he said. “We have hardly managed to dissociate our party from the bad name Musharraf earned by attacking Lal Masjid. Those left us are also aware of this,” he added.

        The PML-Q leader further said: “There is some sense if we talk about PML-Q-PTI-JI (Jamaat-i-Islami) alliance in future elections. The leadership of these three parties often meet and discuss the possibility keeping in view their less ideological differences,” he said, adding the MQM only believed in “post-election” alliance.
        MQM`s deputy convener Dr Farooq Sattar has advised Musharraf to first organize his party before thinking of any alliance. “There is no bar on dreaming. The MQM wants to go along with like-minded parties,” he said.

        http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/06/apml-...-alliance.html

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        • #6
          Picture this: a magician, creating illusions and pulling a rabbit from a hat. Now mix with this image a second image from the fable of the Emperor’s New Clothes, which turn out to be invisible, leaving the emperor naked in public. Two illusions in one: of an emperor wearing magnificent but illusory robes and a conjurer producing a rabbit from a hat.

          Now picture the PPP government shedding old rags stained by terrorism, inflation, price hikes and power outages and putting on a sparkling new patchwork ensemble of several-point agendas and enemy-turned-allies. Picture President Zardari pulling out of a hat a ‘national reconciliation’ government that will extricate the country from its myriad messes and pave the way for long-term reform.

          While the government parades around in its amazing new duds, how many of us know it’s completely naked and the rabbit it’s holding up is dead?

          When the MQM withdrew its ministers from the federal cabinet earlier this year, the PPP no longer had the 172 seats needed to preserve its majority in the 342-member National Assembly. Next out was Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, and smelling blood, Nawaz too added pressure by demanding action on a 10-point agenda and subsequently sent PPP’s ministers in the Punjab province home.

          Remaining allies and 19 independent MPs summed up to the total strength of 166, still six short of target. With the federal budget and Senate elections looming, this just wasn’t going to work, especially when the government had already failed to pass key financial legislation like the reformed general sales tax and a flood surcharge.

          What to do? Get besieged and renegade parties to shoulder the numbers-burden for a quid pro quo and call it ‘national reconciliation’ in the name of saving the country. From villain to semi-hero in two words. One hell of a magic trick, no? Same emperor, new clothes – or rather, no clothes at all.

          The PMLN wasn’t going to play ball and bridges with the JUIF had been burned. Pesky MQM wasn’t a complicated target because all it wanted was control over Karachi where the PPP demonstrated it would play by Altaf’s rules (sacking Dr Mirza and banning the People’s Amn Committee are cases in point).

          That left the PML-Q: a party barely at the margins of the opposition with a taste for mainstream politics. The king’s party during Musharraf’s reign, it was going to be the biggest loser in the Senate elections when its 20 senators retired. Enter the PPP with promises of seat adjustments in the Senate election, important ministries, alliance in general elections – and it was a match made in heaven. Except the PML-Q wanted more. Remember the NICL corruption investigation in which Moonis Elahi is currently detained as a suspect? Two investigation officers on the case, federally appointed, have already been removed from their posts. Remember the voluminous report submitted to the Supreme Court last month alleging that new “senior minister” Pervaiz Elahi siphoned Rs. 5.4 billion from the Bank of Punjab? Enough said.

          The contours of the power-sharing deal were finalised almost three weeks ago but the public back-and-forth was orchestrated to lend a whiff of legitimacy to a done deal and to buy time to placate disgruntled PMLQ members.

          While the army was too busy worrying about the US, and now Osama, to care about these political distractions, the alliance did set off alarm bells in Raiwind. For the PPP and the PML-Q, that was half the battle already won.

          In all the talk of who would get what ministry, however, there was little talk of who would work on what problem. This was a no-good union from the very get-go. Clever politics and rather impressive opportunism; a war of distraction that won’t make even a modest wrinkle in the fabric of Pakistan’s problems but which works perfectly to divert attention from the truth: that we’re in for a long, slow slog to worse times. A naked emperor and a dead rabbit – Pakistani politics summed up in two images.

          If that’s not enough on the art of alliance making, here’s more. What do you do if you don’t have federal ministries to hand out in exchange for favours from other irrelevant politicians? On the good authority of someone very close to Musharraf, we know that owner of ‘champion German Shepherds,’ Humayun Gauhar, was requested by Musharraf to ‘gift’ Imran Khan one of his best dogs. Poor Imran unwittingly sent one of his servants to pick up the pup, which Gauhar and his family considered an affront to dogs everywhere. After all, no dog-respecting person would ever send his servant to pick up a thorough-bred, right? Needless to say, the former president had to intervene and persuade Gauhar that the dog was important for any future alliance between Musharraf and Imran. Dog diplomacy? Now there’s an idea.

          Here’s another one: One of the new PML-Q advisors to the PM explained over lunch that what Pakistan needed now were philosopher kings. How about you focus on industries and human rights, sir? Leave Plato’s dialogues to those who don’t have a collapsing state on their hands.

          But this is how the political cookie crumbles here, the old hats will tell you: anything requiring undivided attention--terrorism, power shortages, Osama--is always accompanied by equally compelling distractions.

          So here’s welcoming me to Islamabad, where politics is a distraction from politics itself.


          http://thenews.jang.com.pk/TodaysPri...ID=45441&Cat=9

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          • #7
            Imran Khan is a Muslim/Pashtun hero for blocking the criminal supply lines to the foreign terrorists in Afghanistan.

            MashAllah, this is great news. Watch how his influence will spread everywhere now. He has taken a grand stand against the slavish treacherous Pakistani government and the USNATO foreign terrorists in Afghanistan.
            Last edited by Guest; 05-22-2011, 07:34 PM.

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            • #8
              Toramana, do you want the US supply lines to remain open?

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              • #9
                Originally posted by ghundal View Post
                Imran Khan is a Muslim/Pashtun hero for blocking the criminal supply lines to the foreign terrorists in Afghanistan.

                MashAllah, this is great news. Watch how his influence will spread everywhere now. He has taken a grand stand against the slavish treacherous Pakistani government and the USNATO foreign terrorists in Afghanistan.
                You are low of intelligence. He is neither a hero nor a good Muslim. Instead he is working for ISI and Pakistan army. The day the generals of Pakistan army decide to exchange chickens like Haqqani, Mullah Omars, etc. in a good bargain with US and other regional players, he would be the first to approve it.

                Furthermore, his kids are being brought up according to good jewish traditions by his jews in-laws in England. And like you, he cannot speak Pashto. So much for his being a Muslim and a Pashtun.


                You are living entirely in a world of illusions and I am sure would one day commit suicide (with or without suicide jacket) when all your Jehadi dreams will be smashed to ground.
                Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2011, 07:43 PM.

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                • #10
                  What makes you think anyone would sit in Pakistan?

                  Imran Khan's children are Muslims, their names are Suleiman and Mahmood(I think), and he sees them on a regular basis. His wife still passes good statements, and regardless, she is still a Muslim. Her name is Jamima.

                  and regarding the world. LOL the US has lost in Afghanistan. Your secular dreams will just remain ----- dreams

                  The latest from Dr. Michael Scheuer:


                  In Afghanistan – Taleban: Islam triumphant; America: self-defeated, ready to run


                  While Mrs. Clinton, General Petraeus, and Senator Kerry leak information to the media about “accelerating” peace talks with the Taleban, Mullah Omar and his lieutenants are thanking Allah for Islam’s clearly approaching victory in Afghanistan. The Clinton-Petraeus-Kerry disinformation now flowing is simply meant to prepare Americans for a U.S.-led surrender in Afghanistan. We are defeated there, and while Democrats and Republicans may tart up the retreat of the U.S.-NATO coalition as “mission accomplished,” the truth will be that the second superpower was defeated in Afghanistan by mujahedin armed only with faith and weaponry of Korean War vintage.

                  U.S. officials have told the media that they are talking to Taleban leaders about what “conditions” they want in exchange for joining a Karzai-led Afghan government. They ought to save their time. The Taleban and its allies today want what they have demanded since 12 September 2001: POWER. This is the non-negotiable demand of Mullah Omar, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Jalaluddin Haqqani, and other Afghan insurgent leaders. These men know that the Afghan war is a zero-sum game; they either win or they lose. They also know that there will be no post-NATO coalition arrangement that lasts any longer than the departure of the last Western bayonet. The Afghan leaders may give the U.S.-NATO coalition a decent interval to withdrawal — as they did the Red Army — but Karzai and any of his colleagues who stay behind will be tortured, carved up, and then hung from the same lampposts the Afghan communist leader Najibullah and his sidekicks were hung from in the 1990s after Moscow abandoned them.

                  Currently, the Taleban and its allies are on top of the world. The Obama administration, the British and French governments, and most of the other coalition countries are publicly discussing an accelerated withdrawal. Telling Mullah Omar and his colleagues that you are going to leave is — of course — music to the ears of men whose forte is patience, fatalism, and a killer instinct. And after all, what could be a more heady experience for Allah’s warriors than to hear the leaders of infidelity publicly admit they are licked and about to creep shamefully away, tails appropriately between legs.

                  The death of Osama bin Laden also helps the Taleban. Mullah Omar and the other mujahedin would have preferred that he lived, but his death does not hurt the Taleban’s war effort. At the most basic level, U.S. military officials already have said that al-Qaeda’s main assistance to the Taleban — training, logistical support, and intelligence gathering — continues without interruption. In addition, Mullah Omar will be forever honored across the Muslim world as the one Muslim leader who was willing to defy the United States and temporarily lose his country to host and protect a fellow Muslim mujahid, the “great lion of Islam,” Osama bin Laden. Omar’s protection of bin Laden moved the largely localized Taleban movement onto the Islamic world’s center stage.

                  Bin Laden’s death also removes a hindrance from Taleban fund-raising. As long as bin Laden was alive and closely identified with Omar and the Taleban, Saudi Arabia and the other Arab Peninsula regimes had to be circumspect in how much and how openly they funneled money to the Afghans. Absent bin Laden — and given their growing anger and contempt for the Obama administration’s slavish support for Israel and back-stabbing of Arab leaders — the Saudi regime and its fellow Gulf tyrannies can be less clandestine and more generous in moving funds to the Taleban, which, after all, is more accurately described as the product of the Saudi religious establishment, rather than that of Pakistani machinations. Private donations to the Taleban from wealthy Gulf Arabs and wealthy Muslims worldwide never ceased, and now are likely to increase.

                  Finally, the Taleban will receive even more support from the Pakistan’s army and intelligence service. With Obama and NATO leaders having thrown in the towel in Afghanistan, Pakistan’s generals must move to start cleaning up the mess NATO will leave behind and to begin stabilizing their country, which first of all means finding a modus vivendi with the Pakistani Taleban that will begin to curtail that group’s violence inside Pakistan.
                  If that can be accomplished — and supplies of Arab-provided money and guns will speak loudly — the generals will then encourage the Pakistani Taleban to assist Mullah Omar and his allies in intensifying their war of attrition against the U.S.-NATO coalition and, after the coalition’s defeat, to aid in the destruction of Karzai’s regime. All of this promotes Pakistan’s vital national interests: lessening domestic violence; removing U.S. and NATO forces from Afghanistan and Pakistan; eliminating Karzai’s pro-Iran, pro-India regime; reinstalling an Islamist government in Kabul; and leaving India’s presence in Afghanistan untenable, thereby restoring Pakistan’s strategic depth on its western border and allowing the repositioning of military units to its border with India.

                  The way ahead in Afghanistan, therefore, seems to have been clearly demarcated by the West’s feckless politicians, diplomats, and — most especially — generals. The coming bottom line appears to be: The West loses, and the Taleban wins.

                  But not so fast, there is more to it. While it is true that the West loses, it is more accurate to say that Islam wins. And when thinking about what that victory will mean, it is worth recalling that Osama’s bin Laden and his generation were galvanized in favor of defending Islam via a jihad by the Afghan mujahedins’ defeat of the Soviet superpower in Afghanistan. It probably is wise — although a bit late — to ponder what impact the mujhaedins’ defeat of the U.S. superpower in Afghanistan and Iraq will have on this generation of young Muslims, including those in North America.
                  Last edited by Guest; 05-22-2011, 07:56 PM.

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                  • #11
                    Toramana, please answer my question.

                    Do you want the supply lines to the US to remain open? Yes or No.

                    Dont worry about Imran Khan. He is a hero. He has taken a great stand against the slavish Pakistani government, and it is praiseworthy

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by ghundal View Post
                      Toramana, please answer my question.

                      Do you want the supply lines to the US to remain open? Yes or No.

                      Dont worry about Imran Khan. He is a hero. He has taken a great stand against the slavish Pakistani government, and it is praiseworthy
                      I say all the terrorists including Haqqanis, Gulbuddins, Al-Zawahiri, etc. who are responsible for the death and destruction of our people and are the initial cause for the presence of foreign forces in that region must leave our land and/or renounce violence.

                      Moreover, all the terrorist-minded Al-Qaueda sympathisers that approve of killing of innocent people in suicide bombing and may be working for Al-Qaueda sleepers cells or are potential terrorists in the West to bring bad name to Muslims and contribute to their hardships must renounce their violent attituded or be apprehended by anti-terror-agencies for all this madness to come to an end and for peace to return.

                      And you approved of the killing of people in suicide bombing two times. Do you remember that?
                      Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2011, 08:04 PM.

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                      • #13
                        putting aside your usual support for the US NATO (foreign terrorists who kill and maim Afghan children, women, and elderly men), you could simply say, YES, you support the USNATO war in Afghanistan. Whats the need for all the other words?

                        I have never supported terrorism. I dont support night raids and airstrikes, and nor have I ever supported suicide bombing. But why do you differentiate an airstrike from a suicide bomb? I am curious now. Are you saying that the people who drop bombs from the sky are innocent? Please go to Helmand or Paktia and say that to the people there. See what they do.

                        And all USNATO forces and Pak forces are terrorists.

                        No person supports the failed war of foreign aggression against the Afghan people.

                        From Kandahar to Quetta, people are very much so against it.

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by ghundal View Post
                          putting aside your usual support for the US NATO (foreign terrorists who kill and maim Afghan children, women, and elderly men), you could simply say, YES, you support the USNATO war in Afghanistan. Whats the need for all the other words?

                          I have never supported terrorism. I dont support night raids and airstrikes, and nor have I ever supported suicide bombing. But why do you differentiate an airstrike from a suicide bomb? I am curious now. Are you saying that the people who drop bombs from the sky are innocent? Please go to Helmand or Paktia and say that to the people there. See what they do.

                          And all USNATO forces and Pak forces are terrorists.

                          No person supports the failed war of foreign aggression against the Afghan people.

                          From Kandahar to Quetta, people are very much so against it.
                          Look, you may be denying it now but there are many threads in which you have condoned the killing of innocent civilians e.g., in one case related to the killing of FC men in suicide bombing saying that as they are Pakistan army soldiers so it is justified if they have been killed in suicide bombing.

                          It reminds me the Miami Imam arrested recently for condoning the maiming of people in Taleban Jehad and he had pleaded innocence. But now, it has come to fore that one of his sons was Taleban commander in Swat wanted in terrorism charges.

                          So now you are denying you are justfying suicide bombing but you actually did justify it. This Imam was monitored for three years by FBI and finally apprehended. If charges against him were proved in court he will rust in prison for almost 45 years. So much pain he brought on his family, people, and Muslim community for nothing. So watch out. When they would waterboard you in Gtmo, all Jehad/terrror will be out of you.

                          "Although Alamzeb denies the allegations against him and the family, officials at the Kabal Police Station in Swat said that Hafiz Sher's son Ikramul Haq was wanted in two cases registered in the Kabal Police Station in 2008. “The first case was registered against him on January 12, 2008 under sections 324, 353, 427, 120B, 124A, 512 of the Pakistan Penal Code and Section 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act, and the second case was registered on October 22, 2008 under sections 302, 353, 120B, 364, 434, 3/4 of the Explosives Act, 324, 148, 149, 404 and Section 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act,” they said, adding that the latter pertains to an attack on an army convoy on October 21, 2008."

                          http://www.christianpost.com/news/key-figure-in-miami-terror-network-yet-to-be-captured-50253/
                          Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2011, 09:19 PM.

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                          • #15
                            It is interesting that many Taleban escaped the military operation in Swat and went underground escaping to Karachi, Middle East, and there are rumours that even to Europe and UK ().
                            Last edited by Toramana; 05-22-2011, 09:21 PM.

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