Mixed Discussion: Jinnah, Drinking and Creation of Pakistan

[MazloomyarMaseed]

And you are not blaming Afghanistan over this? And you are not blaming your own tribal elders over this?

There are many people to be blaimed and rest assured, if this Pakistan was not made, we would not have had the problems we have today, over a million bengalis would be alive, balochi women would be giving brith instead of being raped, 2 million Swatis wont be homeless and abused in Punjab because of a Double game by ISI, there would be no force fed Urdu classes, Pashtun language would not be dishonoured, Pashtuns would have an identity, tribal areas wont be neglected and used as a base to spread Pakistani interests in Afghanistan, there would have not been any zia ul haqs, Soviets, Americans on our region, there would be peace, unity, development and progression.

[Niazi]

Pakistan was given to them on plate by British nobody fought for Pakistan it was British brain child to punish Indian for thier revolt against them,the samelarity between Pakistan and isreal is that both were created by British on somebody else's land as they always do except Pakistan killed more muslims then isreal that's a fact ,I think it shouldn't be called pakistan but khairatistan

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Didn't we have this discussion already...damn I posted so many things there, now I have to go find them.

[Feroza_Banu]

i could care less about his drinking... but i am really upset that he left us with a "nasooor" named pakistan...


khpala kho marr so ama zmuzh kor ye rata taba aw barbaad krra da dagha pakistan jarrawolo sara.

[Master Khan]

where is Jinnah daughter and family now?..I heard she is christain and lives in India.

[Max]

lemme tell you something if pashtuns had one person like Jinnah right now he could turn the fate of this entire nation

This is what he did, muslims were more divided under more problems than pashtuns are now..He outwitted every single leader and carved out a homeland for muslims in seven years

You guys might disagree with me on here, but you know that if we had even one person like Jinnah we wouldnt be in this Sh***

[Master Khan]

Don't you think Jinnah divided us Afghans? Before we are all one Afghan. no we have different Afghans. Afghan by nationality, and Afghan by ethnicity.

Pakistan says "Max, you are an ethnic Afghan" "London boy, you are an Afghan national"

its wasn't jinnah that divided us, it was that idiot Abdur Rahman Khan (Emir of Afghanistan)

[MazloomyarMaseed]

lemme tell you something if pashtuns had one person like Jinnah right now he could turn the fate of this entire nation

This is what he did, muslims were more divided under more problems than pashtuns are now..He outwitted every single leader and carved out a homeland for muslims in seven years

You guys might disagree with me on here, but you know that if we had even one person like Jinnah we wouldnt be in this Sh***

hahaha oh really, so the durrand line and FCR and all these agencies are a blessing to you.

Stop taking too much mushrooms.

So in other words, this dude here Max, wants a Pashtun who eats pork, drinks whisky, has a briitsh servent, and hires a british officer to found his army.

Its best joke ive heard in ages

[MazloomyarMaseed]

its wasn't jinnah that divided us, it was that idiot Abdur Rahman Khan (Emir of Afghanistan)

Let me correct you. It was the British who divided us, because they wanted a buffer, Abdur Rahman didnt represent all Pashtuns nor Afghans, he was a puppet of the British just like Jinnah was, a good example is Bengalis, Were Bengalis once puppets of Jinnah? and what happened to them after wards?

[Master Khan]

Let me correct you. It was the British who divided us, because they wanted a buffer, Abdur Rahman didnt represent all Pashtuns nor Afghans, he was a puppet of the British just like Jinnah was, a good example is Bengalis, Were Bengalis once puppets of Jinnah? and what happened to them after wards?

End of the day it was Abdur Rahman that sold our land to British india or else we would have been with Afghanistan now.
Jinnah divided us from India (thank God)

[MazloomyarMaseed]

its wasn't jinnah that divided us, it was that idiot Abdur Rahman Khan (Emir of Afghanistan)

In regards to Abdur Rahman Khan

"At the durbar on July 22, 1880, Abdur Rahman was officially recognized as Amir, granted assistance in arms and money, and promised, in case of unprovoked foreign aggression, such further aid as might be necessary to repel it, provided that he align his foreign policy with the British. The British evacuation of Afghanistan was settled on the terms proposed, and in 1881, the British troops also handed over Kandahar to the new Amir."

He is very similar to Jinnah, both were British Puppets. So how can one even suggest that Abdur Rahman Khan represented every single Pashtun Afghans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdur_Rahman_Khan

[MazloomyarMaseed]

End of the day it was Abdur Rahman that sold our land to British india or else we would have been with Afghanistan now.
Jinnah divided us from India (thank God)

Dont be so ignorant buddy, have you got evidence that Abdur Rahman Khan was elected and placed into power by the People of Afghanistan? it was the same british who founded the Pakistan army, founded the ISI and whom Jinnah admired and wish he could be that placed Abdur Rahman Khan into power.

he was given money and weapons, which were used on the sme Afghans whom you claim must have supported him.

Also in regards to Jinnah freeing himself from India, let me refresh your mind, Did Pakistan fight against the British? Who did the British take home with them to fight in the world war 2? it was your fellow Pakistanis.

[Master Khan]

Jinnah took land away from British and Abdur Rahman gave land to them.
I mean come on wrora, Pashtunistan is alot of land.
I am not a jinnah supporter but he was better then Abdur Rahman

[MazloomyarMaseed]

End of the day it was Abdur Rahman that sold our land to British india or else we would have been with Afghanistan now.
Jinnah divided us from India (thank God)

And Now Pakistan has sold our land to America, so what is the solution? Pashtun Unity and prevent future greedy corrupted leaders or accept our people to live in IDPS camps while the sons of the British raj buy new cars and houses on our blood?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Jinnah took land away from British and Abdur Rahman gave land to them.
I mean come on wrora, Pashtunistan is alot of land.

Jinnah didnt take any land away from the British? did Jinnah fight for this Land, it was GIVEN to HIM by the BRITISH! who counted the referendum, who supported Jinnahs Muslim leauge? it was the British, Who founded the Pakistan Army? he was a british, tell me a single war did Jinnah fight to free Muslims from the hands of KAffir christians? not a single one!