Mixed Discussion: Jinnah, Drinking and Creation of Pakistan

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I know how it feels.
my own friends have suffered it.
It is sad and disgusting and really bad.

To be honest, I will not support what our Army/agencies do, how they do it, since they have shown on many occasions that they do it wrong, still, honestly speaking, Pakistan Army and Agencies are only one group in the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is far more ugly, and Pakistan Army and Co. are only part of the ugliness of this picture.

I hope you understand that as well.

Yes I understand very well..but in the bigger scheme of things it is our dukhman not our friend. Wrora you can slice and dice it anyway you please, you can throw in israel, nassara or even Betty white (if it makes you all feel better), but you know that they are our dukhmans as well. Pakistan state, idealogy, army, watan da pakhtano dukhman dae. They are using us against India and in the process destroying us. I am not their or peerangyaan or india's donkey, that when you want you use me and when you are done you throw me away. Wuss ba mung da lar au bar afghan khabarae kaoo..nur kho bass khalko saraa zulm dae.

[شمله ور خراساني]

^The actual reason why you call him a non muslim is that he was by chance a non Afghan. His bad luck!
What so ever he was, what so ever his made country is, now the ground reality is, it is a strong islamic country, atomic power, your argumentations can neither break it, nor give it even a little loss InshaAllah.

You know, there is a joke in Afghanistan. They say a thug caught a boy and pulled his pants down and started raping him. While he was raping the boy he noticed the boy is carrying a pistol. And he asked the boy, what the pistol is for. The boy said, its for in case I get in to trouble. The thug was shocked and said, is there any trouble more severe than getting raped?

This joke applies to current situation of Pakistan. Pakistan is dominated by AMerica, Americans kill people inside Pakistani soil and the army of Pakistan attacks its own people and massacres Pashtuns for money they receive from America. And yet some people claim Pakistan is a "strong Islamic nuclear armed nation" hahah

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

You know, there is a joke in Afghanistan. They say a thug caught a boy and pulled his pants down and started raping him. While he was raping the boy he noticed the boy is carrying a pistol. And he asked the boy, what the pistol is for. The boy said, its for in case I get in to trouble. The thug was shocked and said, is there any trouble more severe than getting raped?

^ That is actually not a very good taste in jokes brother.

Please avoid them.

[imb706]

You could have googled !!!

By your response, I don't even think you know who and what I'm talking about.

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Khushal Khan Khattak;20456]Yes because at that time he was in the Congress, the same Congress that Bacha Khan liked more than the MUSLIM League.[/COLOR]

I dont want more from him. Da hagha khpal qabar wo zamung khpal dey.
I dont care how good a Muslim he was or not, there arent any good/true Muslims even today so no problemo since the religion lives on.

(1) But you should also keep this in mind that almost all the Muslim leaders of All India National Congress participated in Khilafat movement with religious zeal and enthusiasm......but your jinnah couldn't..

(2) Kha uss khabara qabar ta raaghla....lolzzz....so now u don't care how good a Muslim he was...it means you have accepted that jinnah was not a True Muslim....and that he only pretended to be one...infact he just acted upon the lesson which was taught to him by the Britishers .....
so its all over your have accepted that he might not a True Muslims....the thread may be closed now.....bcoz u have started it to prove that he was a True Muslim....

By the way i can post similar quotes about Islam and Musalman from Mr. Gandhi tooo....so by pointing to the quotes in Mutaliya Pakistan Book for class 12 you can't deny the facts.....

[imb706]

According to the Tea Partyers, he is.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Jinnah ate Pork and drank Wine daily with sources

"Despite this remarkable accomplishment, Jinnah remains an enigmatic and controversial figure. Although he began his career as a respected leader of the Indian National Congress, he ended it as its most implacable opponent. Although he was not a devout Muslim (he drank alcohol and ate pork), he demanded in the name of Islam the creation of Pakistan. Although he could not speak most of the main Indian Muslim languages, he captivated audiences of millions during the campaign for Pakistan."

http://historytoday.com/MainArticle.aspx?m=12674&amid=12674

"MJ Akbar has written these lines describing his persona,"Muhammad Ali Jinnah, aristocrat by temperament, catholic in taste, sectarian in politics, and the father of Pakistan, was the unlikeliest parent that an Islamic republic could possibly have. He was the most British of the generation of Indians that won freedom in August 1947. As a child in the elite Christian Mission High School in Karachi, he changed his birthday from 20 October to Christmas Day. As a student at Lincoln's Inn, he anglicised his name from Jinnahbhai to Jinnah. For three years, between 1930 and 1933, he went into voluntary exile in Hampstead, acquired a British passport, set up residence with his sister Fatimah and daughter Dina, hired a British chauffeur (Bradley) for his Bentley, kept two dogs (a black Dobermann and a white West Highland terrier), indulged himself at the theatre (he had once wanted to be a professional actor so that he could play Hamlet) and appeared before the Privy Council to maintain himself in the style to which he was accustomed. He wore Savile Row suits, heavily starched shirts and two-tone leather or suede shoes……Despite being the Quaid-e-Azam, or the Great Leader of Muslims, he drank a moderate amount of alcohol and was embarrassingly unfamiliar with Islamic methods of prayer. He was uncomfortable in any language but English, and made his demand for Pakistan — in 1940 at Lahore — in English, despite catcalls from an audience that wanted to hear Urdu.”

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indus-calling/entry/jinnah-he-had-a-pistol

"Jinnah built a house in Malabar Hill, later known as Jinnah House. He was not an observing Muslim, taking pork and alcohol, dressed throughout his life in European-style clothes, and spoke in English more than his mother tongue, Gujarati."

http://www.whereincity.com/india/great-indians/freedom-fighters/muhammad-ali.php

[Son of Mountains]

Infact, pakistan came into existance bcz it was God's will
It will survive up-till God wishes
God selected Muhammad Ali Jinnah R.A for this deed
May God fill his grave with Noor
U people are worst actually.....Go back to Afghanistan

[Son of Mountains]

Now someone will come and say: "Do not bring God in our matters"
lol........try to break our Pakistan....yes come....we will break your teeth

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Infact, pakistan came into existance bcz it was God's will
It will survive up-till God wishes
God selected Muhammad Ali Jinnah R.A for this deed
May God fill his grave with Noor
U people are worst actually.....Go back to Afghanistan

You go back to Punjab and preach your Ismaili Theories there.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Now someone will come and say: "Do not bring God in our matters"
lol........try to break our Pakistan....yes come....we will break your teeth

say this in Waziristan and we will shave your britonna and hang you on a lappost with your other Pakistani Jawans. Call yourself a PMAP member, u fake person, ur such a lair!

[Son of Mountains]

OHHHH Chaundry Saab, what non sense is this!!!!!!!!! you faker! ur not even in PMAP! your jinnah was a Murtad Monafiq! he was begger of the British, he ate pork and drank whisky! and u insult Islam by using his name, Allah didnt choose a murtad such as him for any isalmic cause, the british chose him! Where is the shariat laws, where is the Islamic laws, you are a liar and deceiving SOM!

You go back to Punjab you little Hindkomar, i bet your not even a Pashtun but a fake, look at you say go back to afghanistan, if pashtuns go back to afghanistan so will your mashar achakzai you little fake! we know you are a Punjabi! which side of your family is Punjabi, dont be ashamed to tell us.

U r repoted bachaya

[Son of Mountains]

say this in Waziristan and we will shave your britonna and hang you on a lappost with your other Pakistani Jawans. Call yourself a PMAP member, u fake person, ur such a lair!

again cry Mr......

[MazloomyarMaseed]

U r repoted bachaya

Oh really, so you reported me jasusa!

always remmeber, who provoked it? who told me to go back to Afghanistan when iam very happy in Waziristan. I will say very proudly

YOU ARE A FAKE, ANTI PASHTUN, JINNAH LOVER, WHO TOLD ME TO GO BACK TO AFGHANISTAN,YOU ARE A PUNJABI RACIST,GO AND REPORT THAT.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

how many times do i have to tell you people?!
THE TERM PUNJABI IS NOT AN INSULT!
how low can you people possibly get?!

i m not going to call out names but i really feel like picking up a rock and smashing a certain some one's teeth.

I know you mean me, but hey stick to sewing clothes and keeping the kitchen clean and tidy.