Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa parliament calls for an end to drone strikes

[Toramana]

Oh Toramana Toramana Toramana, here is your second source kaka,

http://books.google.com/books?id=9QE...%20ISI&f=false

The quote from: Pakistan: In the Shadow of Jihad and Afghanistan by Mary Ann Weaver (let me guess she is an ISI agent too? LOOOL)

Here is the commentary about Murderin Mehmud and his views:

"mehmood khan achekzai whose Pashtunkhwa party was the strongest political party in the pathan belt...Mehmood is a marxist and an engineer... he returned to Balochistan only recently when Benazir Bhutto gave him amensty (A murder charge had been levelled against him, something he called a misunderstanding between Zia and Pashtunkhwa)...." (page 122-123)

The book goes onto discuss his support for the communist factions against the legitimate resistance movement of AFghanistan.

And looks like Paki establishment Bhutto and him were bosom buddies. Or perhaps Bosom baddies?

BAAAMMM two sources Toramana. You asked for it. Go ahead and call Annie Weaver an ISI assett now.

Apart from the complex political context in which all this happened and the questions regarding the historicity about these events, how is this tantamount to proving he committed a murder (of his father) -noting his being a marxist is a completely separate issue....

I mean how can you combine two distinct issues not yet been conclusively proved to give a categorical and final statement about his character and career...? Again, can what you say be verified from multiple (and independent ) sources traceable to one or more primary source (a documentary proof of his association with marxism in the form membership of an organization or political/ideological activism, OR a court indictment confirming his involvement in the murder you've mentioned)....?

[ScimitarXEdge]

Toramana, please address my posts and threads; your avoidance is being highlighted.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Apart from the complex political context in which all this happened and the questions regarding the historicity about these events, how is this tantamount to proving he committed a murder (of his father) -noting his being a marxist is a completely separate issue....

I mean how can you combine two distinct issues not yet been conclusively proved to give a categorical and final statement about his character and career...? Again, can what you say be verified from multiple (and independent ) sources traceable to one or more primary source (a documentary proof of his association with marxism in the form membership of an organization or political/ideological activism, OR a court indictment confirming his involvement in the murder you've mentioned)....?

Point 1: You asked for two sources. You got them. Now you are switching goal posts. I was half expecting you to accuse Miss Weaver, a journalist of repute, of being an ISI agent. Achekzai professed to her to being a Marxist per the reading of the text. Second of all, look where he threw his support predominantly. If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck.... its not an elephant Toramana.

Point 2: You did not read the TAC article closely. You previously dismissed their top notch work as "lacking." Yet you did not provide any evidence for this. The article from Shayesta in the Najib section supports TAC conclusions in nearly every aspect. Instead, you insinuated that their board member from FATA is somehow ISI linked. Do you have proof for this accusation? Do you have membership phanalia? Do you have documentation to support your accusation against this board member? No, yet you make assymetric demands on those criticising your Achekzai Booth. Moreover, the allegation is NOT that he killed Abdul Samad. Its that he killed a rival Afghan tribal leader of an alternative leadership khel that would have united lar and bar Achekzai tribes. The point was that Achekzai, were he a true Pashtun loyalist, would have hungered to see this happen.

A true Pashtun loyalist was Haji Jamal Khan Barakzai of Ahmad Shah's era. He was competing against Ahmad Shah Durrani for being King but when he saw Ahmad Shah's charisma he threw his lot in with him and strengthened him. That is what a loyalist does; he doesnt kill his Pashtun competition like a hungry animal, solely to preserve his spot in feudalistic Pakistan.

Point 3: You have been clammoring loudly for years now that Omar Hotak is an ISI agent, that Zaeef is an ISI agent, etc. Did you produce x number of sources leading to a primary source for your allegations? NO. That is called hypocrasy of the highest order.

Point 4: His Marxism matters a whole lot. He is a Godless communist and therefore has no right to claim the mantle of Afghan or to claim and represent the rural pashtun.

Point 5: This is the best that 4 legions of PMAP activists and ANP acolytes and zealots can do when they converge on Abdali? Khodaay ba maay osaathee.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Oh Toramana Toramana Toramana, here is your second source kaka,

http://books.google.com/books?id=9QE...%20ISI&f=false

The quote from: Pakistan: In the Shadow of Jihad and Afghanistan by Mary Ann Weaver (let me guess she is an ISI agent too? LOOOL)

Here is the commentary about Murderin Mehmud and his views:

"mehmood khan achekzai whose Pashtunkhwa party was the strongest political party in the pathan belt...Mehmood is a marxist and an engineer... he returned to Balochistan only recently when Benazir Bhutto gave him amensty (A murder charge had been levelled against him, something he called a misunderstanding between Zia and Pashtunkhwa)...." (page 122-123)

The book goes onto discuss his support for the communist factions against the legitimate resistance movement of AFghanistan.

And looks like Paki establishment Bhutto and him were bosom buddies. Or perhaps Bosom baddies?

BAAAMMM two sources Toramana. You asked for it. Go ahead and call Annie Weaver an ISI assett now.

For those confused by the back and forth, this is the original nail in Toramana's intellectual coffin and chicanary.

[Alchemist]

I don't think as much as that caveman the one eyed Hadrath Mullah Omar and his misguided/mentally crippled followers....

Rest, the Punjabis very well know how and where to keep their chickens (be that Mullah Omar, Gulbuddin, or Haqqanis) and when to "make them up" for feast...Primitivism/archaism has never out-survived sophistication if history is to be any guide/lesson...The 300 million Arabs are an example, who can't stand to just a handful of jews with superior strategy and ways.

again with the arab reference...

your flowery prose with quintuple syllable words might impress the local chai boy but you are just a racist, thus ignorant, old man.