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  • Originally posted by Fahd View Post
    :O who the hell is defending this ***** !! ?

    and what make them defend him :S

    what the **** happening in this thread :O i thought it was about talking about the bad thing he did LOL i didnt read any posts cuz its 20+ page :O


    MeemWawMeeNoonAlifLamSheenAlifTawAlifNoon

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    • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      There you go again with false premises; Where did I ONLY pin point Najib as the bad guy? I'm just saying he was the WORST of them; based on how many people lost their lives ON ACCOUNT OF HIS actions. Both in KHaD and when he became a leader.

      Religion and politics don't mix; but Islam isn't a religion, it's a system of life. So your premise is logically invalidated again.


      please explain to me how 1.5 million deaths = just as bad as 100,000 deaths?
      Your biggest flaw is in your numbers. Logical Fallacy. 1=100=100000=1000000=bad That is why I am saying that your premise is flawed. This is the reason why you are at Najib's throat. He killed people for power, fair enough. But, who did not? Answer this. Do you see where I am going with this, or are you still stuck on 100000=good and 15000000=bad?

      Good, you said that Islam is a system. We will get to this.

      Tell me, who is justified to run the country?
      Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 04-12-2011, 07:42 PM.
      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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      • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        MeemWawMeeNoonAlifLamSheenAlifTawAlifNoon
        loooooooooool wtf really :o

        why menwnmewnemwnemwnewmenwmnewm u defend this m****** ? did he defend qadiany ahmadi :p ?
        Last edited by BLS_1919v2.0; 04-12-2011, 08:39 PM.

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        • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge
          Explain how my numbers are a logical fallacy!?!?!?!?!?!?
          I edited it.
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • Originally posted by Fahd View Post
            loooooooooool wtf really :o

            why menwnmewnemwnemwnewmenwmnewm u defend this mordagaw ? did he defend qadiany ahmadi :p ?
            As someone who knew how to run a country he was good. Tell, me why is he what you are calling him? Tell me, who is better than him?
            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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            • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post

              please explain to me how 1.5 million deaths = just as bad as 100,000 deaths?
              If time permitted, it would have been even higher. Therefore, using numbers to justify your premise is flawed.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • Edge,

                Be careful when debating folks that are grasping for straws (Shayesta does NOT fall into this category and appears genuine and wanting to discuss the matter logically). However, others will try to deviate from the argument to generate another one. So follow the example of the Prophet. It appears that the only time he ever mentioned a female's private area was once when attempting to discern a legal matter of infidelity and even then he said to the accused man "did you enter the way a pen is put in the ink pot?" Meaning that he used allusions. So perhaps (and take it just as a suggestion) when discussing the dishonoring of the Afghan women, Graveyard wrorre maybe correct that a proper terminology might benefit you in avoiding folks from detracting from teh central argument.
                "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                  Saying that Najib was bad is justified. No one here is discrediting that. However, what right did Arab and Pakistani clowns have to murder him? Anyhow, I will get to the nitty gritty, first I want to show Mr. Logic how illogical he is.

                  So, Mr. Logic, why did they all gather in Afghanistan? For what purpose?

                  Just keep up with me and you will see why I find your arguments flawed.
                  Agreed, he should have been tried in front of a jury. No one, including the Saudi Royals or Karzai deserves that fate.
                  "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                  • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                    Your biggest flaw is in your numbers. Logical Fallacy. 1=100=100000=1000000=bad That is why I am saying that your premise is flawed. This is the reason why you are at Najib's throat. He killed people for power, fair enough. But, who did not? Answer this. Do you see where I am going with this, or are you still stuck on 100000=good and 15000000=bad?

                    Good, you said that Islam is a system. We will get to this.

                    Tell me, who is justified to run the country?


                    You just committed the Straw Man Logical fallacy; you argued a point that I never made

                    I said 1.5 million Afghan deaths= Worse on scale of magnitude than 100,000 Deaths

                    I never made this false dichotomy , 100,000= good , 1.5 million= bad

                    My argument is 100,000 = bad, 1.5 Million= Horrendous

                    You're the one defending criminals I'm not; I'm only saying Najib is the worst of them.

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                    • Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                      Agreed, he should have been tried in front of a jury. No one, including the Saudi Royals or Karzai deserves that fate.
                      Finally.

                      Thank you, brother.

                      At least, someone is not dodging a sincere approach.
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                        As someone who knew how to run a country he was good. Tell, me why is he what you are calling him? Tell me, who is better than him?
                        Wrong, he was an incompetent physician who broke the hippocratic oath. I personally know Dr. Safi, a non Islamist who trained with him in Nangrahar medical. However, to say he was the only competent leader is a discredit to all the other sycophants and effeminate elites who fled the country and now claim to be able to "lead" better than the natives that stayed and won their freedom.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                          You just committed the Straw Man Logical fallacy; you argued a point that I never made

                          I said 1.5 million Afghan deaths= Worse on scale of magnitude than 100,000 Deaths

                          I never made this false dichotomy , 100,000= good , 1.5 million= bad

                          My argument is 100,000 = bad, 1.5 Million= Horrendous

                          You're the one defending criminals I'm not; I'm only saying Najib is the worst of them.
                          You don't have to explicitly mentioned it. No, not at all. You were alluding to it the whole time. This is why you failed to answer my question: is jihad valid against the US today. It would have led along that path of me showing your flawed thinking.

                          Answer me, is Jihad valid against the US today?
                          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                          • Originally posted by Fahd View Post
                            loooooooooool wtf really :o

                            why menwnmewnemwnemwnewmenwmnewm u defend this mordagaw ? did he defend qadiany ahmadi :p ?

                            Actually it was a qadiani ahmadi Sir Zafrullah who was the architect of Pakistan's Resolution of the 3rd march 1940. Thus it was this qadiani who was the real founder of that country; a country which is termed as the fortress of islam.

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                            • Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                              Wrong, he was an incompetent physician who broke the hippocratic oath. I personally know Dr. Safi, a non Islamist who trained with him in Nangrahar medical. However, to say he was the only competent leader is a discredit to all the other sycophants and effeminate elites who fled the country and now claim to be able to "lead" better than the natives that stayed and won their freedom.
                              You are basing all this on one person. One persons opinion does not stand in front of the many who lived under him.
                              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                              • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                                You are basing all this on one person. One persons opinion does not stand in front of the many who lived under him.
                                I think the long hard war fought to remove him, when you take away all the fluff and disinformation about Pakistanis dressing up as Afghans and fighting their war for them, proves the masses were not really endorsing his communist government.
                                "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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