dr najeeb speech on shah nawaz tanai

[khushal]

You realize you haven't rebutted any of my point.

I haven't seen anyone rebuttal your points except one or two. Most just reply with nonsense and stray from the point.

And if anyone is afraid of speaking the truth has not actually sided with truth and has no conviction of what he/she believes.

[ScimitarXEdge]

your posts are drenched in your lack of civility and proper manners....

yeah ..ok so "scardy cat" is civility lol whatever you say.

I honestly don't even view you as having credibility in the first place; I'm only responding back to you as a service to other Muslims and also to bait you into saying stuff that would expose Qadiyanis. Keep going, this is great stuff

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The way of thinking would have you executed for thinking there's a Prophet from Qadiyan.

please stop trying to play emotional appeals; Mu'tazilism is your worst enemy; because it uses Logic, not hysterics and sentimentality.

You claim logic, yet you are full of them, not.

You don't understand that you live a contradiction. This whole thread proves it.

My argument is that you live in the US yet you believe that jihad is valid against them, and then you have the audacity to accuse Dr. Najib of the same things your own governemnt does. My dilemma is make up your mind. Where do you stand? Why are you not fighting the US?

The argument that I am trying to make is leave Islam to itself and politics to itself. You are trying to mix and them and are failing. Why? Because you can't practice what you are preaching.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The rest of your argument is invalid because everyone killed. But, Dr. Najib was trying to put his country on the map....who is your replacement?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Leave the ad hominems mr. i-am-logical and answer these simple questions?

[ScimitarXEdge]

You claim logic, yet you are full of them, not.

You don't understand that you live a contradiction. This whole thread proves it.

My argument is that you live in the US yet you believe that jihad is valid against them, and then you have the audacity to accuse Dr. Najib of the same things your own governemnt does. My dilemma is make up your mind. Where do you stand? Why are you not fighting the US?

The argument that I am trying to make is leave Islam to itself and politics to itself. You are trying to mix and them and are failing. Why? Because you can't practice what you are preaching.

yeah I know and when ever I ask you to demonstrate how I have logically faulted; you're always hush hush ..hmmm?


ok I live in the U.S. ....and? Please explain how this is a logical contradiction at all? You act as if that living somewhere means it's above critique or condemnation. Where is this a logical premise at all?

As for Najib, how does stating something factual about his actions and what he has done; make it somehow invalid to state the truth?


Your argument has no basis Islam is life, politics is apart of life, hence logically politics is apart of Islam.

doooh.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Leave the ad hominems mr. i-am-logical and answer these simple questions?

which ad-hominems....show me one.

[ScimitarXEdge]

The rest of your argument is invalid because everyone killed. But, Dr. Najib was trying to put his country on the map....who is your replacement?

Well he put his country on the map alright by helping to commit genocide

and please explain "what map" and why is it so important to be on the "map"

are you saying prestige is more important than substance?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You still don't seem to understand...maybe you are just slow. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Here:

You believe that jihad against the US is valid.
You believe that we should not be docile.
You believe that Dr. Najib was awful.
You believe that his death was good.
If Dr. Najib was awful, and the US is awful, why are you living in the US and are happy that people are not living under Dr. Najib?

So, why do you live in the US?
Why are you not fighting the US?
What are you aggressively doing to re-establish a proper system-"the Islamic systerm?"
Who is your replacement for Dr. Najib?

Answer all of these....

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Don't beat around the bush with your "entrapment" style get-aways...

[ScimitarXEdge]

You still don't seem to understand...maybe you are just slow. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Here:

You believe that jihad against the US is valid.
You believe that we should not be docile.
You believe that Dr. Najib was awful.
You believe that his death was good.
If Dr. Najib was awful, and the US is awful, why are you living in the US and are happy that people are not living under Dr. Najib?

So, why do you live in the US?
Why are you not fighting the US?
What are you aggressively doing to re-establish a proper system-"the Islamic systerm?"
Who is your replacement for Dr. Najib?

Answer all of these....

PLEASE QUOTE ME ....and then we can make some ground here.

I already explained why I live in the U.S. like 3 times in this thread, so that question needs not be addressed.

As for the other questions; They're entrapment questions, I won't answer because that would put me in jeopordy.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

PLEASE QUOTE ME ....and then we can make some ground here.

Fair enough...

So, you don't believe jihad against the US is valid?
You believe we should be docile?
You believe that Dr. Najib was a good man?
You don't believe that his death was good?
You believe that living under Dr. Najib was good?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Answer these^...we'll start with a fresh slate.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

PLEASE QUOTE ME ....and then we can make some ground here.

I already explained why I live in the U.S. like 3 times in this thread, so that question needs not be addressed.

As for the other questions; They're entrapment questions, I won't answer because that would put me in jeopordy.

hhahahahahahahaha e-thug at its best.

You have failed to answer anything. You seem pretty scared for someone with a we-should-not-sit-back type of approach.

You are lame.

Case closed.

[ScimitarXEdge]

So, you don't believe jihad against the US is valid?

I believe people should resist imperialism and the hegemony of imperialism on all platforms.

You believe we should be docile?

No we can be active on all fronts; God gave us different talents and we should use them.

You believe that Dr. Najib was a good man?

No he sat back and let Russians rape women; how can someone complicit in such an act be good?

You don't believe that his death was good?

Well, in a way yes in a way no, he should have had a trial and then imprisoned; but then again he would probably have been executed. Either way he reaped what he sowed, It was God's Will/

You believe that living under Dr. Najib was good?

I can't see what is so good about making your country a soviet colony, so no.