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  • ^^Your forefathers in NWFP voted to join Pakistan in a referendum in 1947.

    Unless you would have rather had them to vote to join India. I'm sure you would have loved to live under HIndu rule.

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    • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
      ^^Your forefathers in NWFP voted to join Pakistan in a referendum in 1947.

      Unless you would have rather had them to vote to join India. I'm sure you would have loved to live under HIndu rule.
      Listen, the area I am from was acceded to pakistan in 1969, and we were not given the option of a vote. The referendum (btw which I told you to read on) was boycotted by the ruling party and took place in the settled districts. Funny story, even with the boycott of the ruling party (Khudae Khidmatgars), Pakistan only got 50.5 % of the votes. So long story short, my forefathers did not vote for Pakistan.

      Also stop with this hindu india nonsense. One of the reasons the referendum was boycotted as that we are not Indians, so we should have been given the option of Pakhtunistan or reunification with Afghanistan (see the Bannu declaration).
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      • To all the traitors:

        Part III of the NWFP history series by Yasser Latif Hamdani

        NWFP History: The dismissal of the Khan Ministry and its aftermath (Part 3) Pak Tea House

        An excerpt:

        Before the referendum actually took place, Dr. Khan Sahib had famously said that he would resign from his post if Pakistan got 30% of the electorate. As shown by the last piece, Pakistan ended up polling more than 50% of the total electorate showing that the Pushtuns were overwhelmingly in favor of Pakistan. It was in the aftermath of the resounding defeat for the Congress that Dr. Khan Sahib declared that he didn’t have to resign because he commanded a legislative majority (a situation analogous in many ways to General Musharraf’s notorious re-election to the office of the president in 2007 by a legislature that was no longer representative).Part III of the NWFP history series by Yasser Latif Hamdani

        NWFP History: The dismissal of the Khan Ministry and its aftermath (Part 3) Pak Tea House

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        • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
          To all the traitors:

          Part III of the NWFP history series by Yasser Latif Hamdani

          NWFP History: The dismissal of the Khan Ministry and its aftermath (Part 3) Pak Tea House

          An excerpt:

          Before the referendum actually took place, Dr. Khan Sahib had famously said that he would resign from his post if Pakistan got 30% of the electorate. As shown by the last piece, Pakistan ended up polling more than 50% of the total electorate showing that the Pushtuns were overwhelmingly in favor of Pakistan. It was in the aftermath of the resounding defeat for the Congress that Dr. Khan Sahib declared that he didn’t have to resign because he commanded a legislative majority (a situation analogous in many ways to General Musharraf’s notorious re-election to the office of the president in 2007 by a legislature that was no longer representative).Part III of the NWFP history series by Yasser Latif Hamdani

          NWFP History: The dismissal of the Khan Ministry and its aftermath (Part 3) Pak Tea House
          Yaser hamdani, whose posts I have read a lot, are also mired in contradictions. Ironic that a staunch secularist like him supports a state supposedly created for islam, oh wait was it for indian muslims or was it two nation theory lolzz.

          As I told you, after the referendum was boycotted by the ruling party, they garnered 50.5% of the vote. That is not a legislative majority.
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          • ^^It was actually 98% of the electorates that voted, an overwhelmingly vote.

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            • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
              ^^It was actually 98% of the electorates that voted, an overwhelmingly vote.
              No that is not true. 50.5 % voted for pakistan, and a small number voted for India. It was not a legislative majority in the sense that the referendum was boycotted by the ruling party in the province. Do you not understand simple english? Read Selig harrison.
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              • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                Yaser hamdani, whose posts I have read a lot, are also mired in contradictions. Ironic that a staunch secularist like him supports a state supposedly created for islam, oh wait was it for indian muslims or was it two nation theory lolzz.

                As I told you, after the referendum was boycotted by the ruling party, they garnered 50.5% of the vote. That is not a legislative majority.

                Listen if you are implying that all Punjabis are Indian Muslims that is not true. The partition was not for Indian Muslims but for all Muslims.

                Alot of us including myself have lived on the same land that we are living on today and never migrated from the Indian side.

                Its highly likely, I am a descendent of the Indus Valley Civilization. :thefinger:

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                • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                  No that is not true. 50.5 % voted for pakistan, and a small number voted for India. It was not a legislative majority in the sense that the referendum was boycotted by the ruling party in the province. Do you not understand simple english? Read Selig harrison.

                  You may argue that it as only 50%, but as Yasser Latif Hamdani pointed out, the turnout was identical to the previous elections that were won by KAGK. So you have two votes in a row with an almost identical turnout - that is pretty consistent.

                  Elections do not always result in a turnout of 100%, there are various factors that play a part in peoples decision to put in the effort to go to a polling booth. Given the consistent turnout in the two votes, I believe one can safely extrapolate that the opinion was reflective of the vast majority of the population of the NWFP.

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                  • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
                    Listen if you are implying that all Punjabis are Indian Muslims that is not true. The partition was not for Indian Muslims but for all Muslims.

                    Alot of us including myself have lived on the same land that we are living on today and never migrated from the Indian side.

                    Its highly likely, I am a descendent of the Indus Valley Civilization. :thefinger:
                    Oh my Lord. Yes you are living in this land which is part of the subcontinent was in general known as Hindh. Hec even pakistan muslim leaguers initially protested to India using the word `India`for their state. Good for you that you claim a civilization like Indus.
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                    • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
                      You may argue that it as only 50%, but as Yasser Latif Hamdani pointed out, the turnout was identical to the previous elections that were won by KAGK. So you have two votes in a row with an almost identical turnout - that is pretty consistent.

                      Elections do not always result in a turnout of 100%, there are various factors that play a part in peoples decision to put in the effort to go to a polling booth. Given the consistent turnout in the two votes, I believe one can safely extrapolate that the opinion was reflective of the vast majority of the population of the NWFP.
                      It is not logical to argue that a vote is representative when the ruling party (which has the mandate) boycotts it. The fact that you are clinching on to this and quoting one person really shows that you don`t know the basics of that areas history. Yasser Hamdani has some good points, but there are other scholars which have discussed the referendum and are far more capable than him.
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                      • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                        It is not logical to argue that a vote is representative when the ruling party (which has the mandate) boycotts it. The fact that you are clinching on to this and quoting one person really shows that you don`t know the basics of that areas history. Yasser Hamdani has some good points, but there are other scholars which have discussed the referendum and are far more capable than him.

                        Do you want to join Afghanistan?

                        You know that will never happen.


                        So what do you want to make you happy?

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                        • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
                          Do you want to join Afghanistan?

                          You know that will never happen.


                          So what do you want to make you happy?
                          Well time will tell. I find it funny you are putting down my wish to see pashtuns under one loy afghanistan, but at the same time are confident that pakistan will be a super power. At least what I say is based on some historical grounds, your are dreaming, no?
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                          • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                            Well time will tell. I find it funny you are putting down my wish to see pashtuns under one loy afghanistan, but at the same time are confident that pakistan will be a super power. At least what I say is based on some historical grounds, your are dreaming, no?

                            You ever been to Afghanistan?

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                            • Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
                              You ever been to Afghanistan?
                              no why.
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                              • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                                no why.
                                They why do you want to join it? You think your life will be better with Afghanistan? Look at Afghanistan. Are you oblivious to the fact that Afghans are living in the stone age? You want to be like that? They are the only country since it was formed 300 years ago to be living in the same state when it was formed.

                                Is this what you want?

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