Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The question of independent Pashtunistan —Musa Khan Jalalzai

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • The question of independent Pashtunistan —Musa Khan Jalalzai

    Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan



    Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have remained strained due to the Durand Line dispute. Successive Afghan governments refused to recognise the Durand Line as a legitimate border between the two countries. The borderland is predominantly inhabited by Pashtun tribes who were divided by then Afghan ruler Abdul Rahman Khan’s wrong decision in 1893. This issue has been a major cause of strained relations between the two states. Neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan has realised the importance of the other.

    Afghan rulers followed the policy of confrontation towards Pakistan, while Pakistan, since its independence, has failed to evolve a pragmatic Afghan policy. The country followed a predominantly pro-American policy for the last 60 years. Since the creation of Pakistan, both the states have interfered in each other’s internal affairs time and again, but there has never been a turn to full-scale war. In 1971, during the Bangladesh war, the Afghan security forces were guarding Pakistan’s border. Similarly, Pakistan helped the people of Afghanistan during the Soviet intervention in 1979.

    The border dispute between Pakistan and Afghanistan was created by Great Britain in 1893 in exchange for arms and cash offered to the Afghan ruler Amir Abdur Rahman Khan. The perception that Amir Abdur Rahman was under pressure to accept the Durand Line Treaty and had no freedom to negotiate with Great Britain, forcing him to sign the agreement, is totally wrong.

    Abdur Rahman was in a hurry and willingly demanded the settlement of the border dispute with British India and asked for sending a British Mission to Kabul in October 1888 and again in 1893. Sir Mortimer Durand was welcomed with a royal reception. Amir Abdur Rahman was well satisfied with the outcome of his negotiations with Sir Mortimer Durand. As Britain came to know that there was no proper discussion between Balochistan and Afghanistan on the Durand Agreement, it continued to reaffirm the Durand Line Agreement with the Afghan rulers from 1901 to 1973.

    Now, coming to the legality of the Durand Line as an internationally recognised border, Afghanistan has been adamantly denying the legitimacy of the Durand Line since 1947, while Pakistan accepts it as a legitimate border between the two states. Pakistan says that its legitimacy was confirmed for the first time by the statement of Mr Noel Baker, secretary of state for the Commonwealth in the British House of Commons on June 30, 1950. Moreover, in 1956, the ministerial council of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organisation (SEATO) in a Karachi meeting also reaffirmed the recognition of the Durand Line as the internationally recognised boundary between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    In 1949, when the Afghan national assembly rejected all treaties signed with Britain, including the Durand Line agreement, the people of Waziristan did not react warmly. They were now settled and enjoying a happy life within the boundaries of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Moreover, the humiliation of their tribal elders at the hands of Abdur Rahman and his colleagues in Kabul and their expulsion from Afghanistan forcefully ensured that neither the people of Waziristan nor Khyber Pakhtunkhwa show specific interest in an independent Pashtunistan. In their understanding, this is the political game Afghan and Pakistani rulers have been enjoying since 1947.

    In the 1960s and 1970s, Afghanistan extended the demand of independent Pashtunistan to some areas of Balochistan, but political parties and tribal chiefs reacted in a normal way. No Afghan ruler has sincerely responded to the feelings of the Pashtun tribes across the border. Zahir Shah once decided to make a compromise on Pashtunistan and enter into a confederation agreement with Pakistan. President Daud was willing to settle the issue with Pakistan between 1977 and 1978 during his visit to Pakistan. He visited Muhammad Ziaul Haq with this spirit and invited him to settle the border issue forever. In 1979, President Nur Muhammad Tarakai agreed to give up the claim of independent Pashtunistan provided Pakistan cut off support to the Afghan mujahideen groups. President Tarakai was a politician and was well aware of the consequences of military confrontation with Pakistan.

    President Dr Muhammad Najibullah once told my uncle Khan Jahan Khan that he cannot fire a single bullet towards Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and cannot hurt his Pashtun sisters, mothers and brothers. But the Afghan ruler neither offered the Pashtuns of Pakistan the citizenship of Afghanistan nor gave them the right of vote. They never accepted them as Afghans nor allowed them to visit Afghanistan without a Pakistani passport. This is the secret story of ‘independent Pashtunistan’ that Afghan rulers developed dramatically.

    My understanding is that this was just a political game the Afghan and Pakistani rulers played for protecting their political interests at the expense of the poor Pashtun people. Today’s backward and ethnically divided Afghanistan still demands the return of its land and people its ruler sold for nothing, but the international community now recognises the Durand Line as the Pak-Afghan legitimate border

    Some Afghan leaders are of the opinion that the Durand Agreement had a life of 100 years, and, as such, lost its legal standing in 1993. My answer to them is that the present-day Afghanistan has not been able to control its territory or extend the writ of the government to the whole of the country, how can it possibly manage the human, economic, political, health and food security of the people of both Afghanistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?

    Pashtuns in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are not willing to join Afghanistan or struggle for an independent Pashtunistan. They understand they will not be able to manage an independent state economically. They have sympathy with their Afghan brothers but do not want to join them as we saw that the internally displaced persons (IDPs) of Pakistan preferred to remain in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa instead of taking refuge in Afghanistan. An independent Pashtunistan state is an economic impossibility and will be more dangerous for Afghanistan than for Pakistan.

    Finally, I must suggest that both Pakistan and Afghanistan must not allow the Durand Line to become a flashpoint. They should open-heartedly accept the independent status of each other. As most of the Asian frontiers and borders have not been demarcated by Asians themselves, but by colonial powers, therefore nobody can insist on the inviolability of any frontier, including the Durand Line. The Great Game and military confrontations between Russia and Great Britain caused the fixing of the Durand Line, which brought the Khyber Pass and Quetta under British-Indian control. In summation, Pakistan and Afghanistan as two Muslim neighbouring states must understand the importance of each other.

  • #2
    better yet he belongs in a pool full of ****.

    Comment


    • #3
      Actually the article makes a lot of sense; it highlights how leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan used the Pashtun card in their tug of war at the expense of Pashtuns.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        Actually the article makes a lot of sense; it highlights how leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan used the Pashtun card in their tug of war at the expense of Pashtuns.
        THATS THE EXACT BIASED NON SENSE

        these articles have no credibility niether does this poster.

        things are much simpler ScimitarXEdge,but offcourse it will nice for you to go and live there for atleast a decade to understand the mind state and how things are working instead of relying on a biased according to this poster.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by asif86 View Post
          Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan



          Neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan has realised the importance of the other.
          Afghan rulers followed the policy of confrontation towards Pakistan, while Pakistan, since its independence, has failed to evolve a pragmatic Afghan policy.
          The perception that Amir Abdur Rahman was under pressure to accept the Durand Line Treaty and had no freedom to negotiate with Great Britain, forcing him to sign the agreement, is totally wrong.
          They were now settled and enjoying a happy life within the boundaries of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
          their expulsion from Afghanistan forcefully ensured that neither the people of Waziristan nor Khyber Pakhtunkhwa show specific interest in an independent Pashtunistan. In their understanding, this is the political game Afghan and Pakistani rulers have been enjoying since 1947.
          In the 1960s and 1970s, Afghanistan extended the demand of independent Pashtunistan to some areas of Balochistan, but political parties and tribal chiefs reacted in a normal way. No Afghan ruler has sincerely responded to the feelings of the Pashtun tribes across the border. Zahir Shah once decided to make a compromise on Pashtunistan and enter into a confederation agreement with Pakistan. President Daud was willing to settle the issue with Pakistan between 1977 and 1978 during his visit to Pakistan. He visited Muhammad Ziaul Haq with this spirit and invited him to settle the border issue forever. In 1979, President Tarakai was a politician and was well aware of the consequences of military confrontation with Pakistan.

          My understanding is that this was just a political game the Afghan and Pakistani rulers played for protecting their political interests at the expense of the poor Pashtun people.
          Today’s backward and ethnically divided Afghanistan still demands the return of its land and people its ruler sold for nothing, but the international community now recognises the Durand Line as the Pak-Afghan legitimate border.
          Pashtuns in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are not willing to join Afghanistan or struggle for an independent Pashtunistan.
          Finally, I must suggest that both Pakistan and Afghanistan must not allow the Durand Line to become a flashpoint. They should open-heartedly accept the independent status of each other.
          In summation, Pakistan and Afghanistan as two Muslim neighbouring states must understand the importance of each other.
          I just highlighter what i think are the important points to keep in mind at all times. Focusing on integrating the economies and people of the region first will go a long way in deciding this emotional "issue", particularly to Afghanistani nationalists. This is of course after they stop the confrontational policies towards each other.

          Keeping in mind that both are muslim, and more importantly, aspire to be Islamic states, ANY solution should take the sting out of whichever side 'loses'. This way it would not particularly matter what the maps looks like, as the rulers can always point to Islamist notion that the modern concept of borders are "unIslamic" and that we're just making it easier for people to live. It would be prudent that there be no no red lines in negotiations between the two states. Confidence building measures, in my opinion, should lead to some sort of a referendum in the pashtun areas of KP at some point down the line. Notice that all this would take under the umbrella and framework of what we understand as Islamic. Secularist communist nationalist notions will not fly. This realizes the reality of the peoples' aspirations, which certainly cannot be something that leads to down the line of calling Islam arab nationalism or camelism.

          I will not go as far as most in saying that Pak Pashtuns will not 'join' Afghanistan. In the long term it is in the interest of the muslims of the region that political entities conform to particular communities based on whatever criteria they decide for themselves. This is only strengthening the muslims with no threat of divide and rule. In my perfect world, Zahir Shah's proposal would be acceptable to Pakistanis, including Pak Pashtuns.

          Comment


          • #6
            where do pakis get their sources? i always read about this zahir shah thing where afg and pak were supposed to unite with zahir shah at the helm. its obvious bs, but it still turns up in these kind of articles.
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

            Comment


            • #7
              Maybe it's like the 'durand agreement was for 100 years' crud?

              Comment


              • #8
                I wonder why came with his early BS article. LMAO at this Student of Afghan History
                Happy Ramadan everyone. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dym5AVwvc7c&feature=related]‫نشيد (زين الشهور) كااااملة || Zain Ramadan Nasheed-Full Version‬‎ - YouTube[/url]

                Comment


                • #9
                  The article is far from reality.There are some points there.Like many afghan-pashtuns leaders and writers mr jalalzai is also conected to paki establishment and its ISI.

                  I will always support the azad pukhtoonistan and the fedration of pashtunkhwa wa baluchistan to get access to the sea and save our pashtu from farsibans .Both are good choices for the pashtuns of the east of durandline.

                  The issue of loy afghanistan will creat another problem and the country could split into pieces.Do you guys think the power holder in kabul will accept pashtun majority and will accept pashtu to be the only national language?The tajik dominated govt will accept that?
                  The power holders such as fahim,atta,ismail khan etc and the tajik racist pedram and supporters will accept 40 millions pashtun into their country?
                  They are working on how to replace pashtu word by dari in govt.
                  The iranain backed Makdoom Raheen is pashtun hater and he is well known for that.Also pashtuns and tajiks in afghanistan are so mixed and similar.
                  That loy afghanistan will be still depending on others for trades etc.Pashtun will be in landlock country.While on the other side
                  Pashtuns make up half of baluchistan ,
                  s papulation and we have a great chance to unite pashtuns from chetral to bolan with baluchi brothers into a fedration of pashtunkhwa wa baluchistan.
                  We have better understanding with them and our culture and way of life is similar.
                  Both pashtuns and baluchis wants respect for their language and culture and they will never get that in persain dominated afghanistan and punjabi dominated country pakistan.It will be an ideal country for pashtuns.
                  Pashtun will be in majority with peace and harmoney with their baluchis brothers.It will be the center of the world and a strong state.



                  Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                  pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                  be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                  gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                  be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                  hamza baba
                  پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
                  Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                    The article is far from reality.There are some points there.Like many afghan-pashtuns leaders and writers mr jalalzai is also conected to paki establishment and its ISI.

                    I will always support the azad pukhtoonistan and the fedration of pashtunkhwa wa baluchistan to get access to the sea and save our pashtu from farsibans .Both are good choices for the pashtuns of the east of durandline.

                    The issue of loy afghanistan will creat another problem and the country could split into pieces.Do you guys think the power holder in kabul will accept pashtun majority and will accept pashtu to be the only national language?The tajik dominated govt will accept that?
                    The power holders such as fahim,atta,ismail khan etc and the tajik racist pedram and supporters will accept 40 millions pashtun into their country?
                    They are working on how to replace pashtu word by dari in govt.
                    The iranain backed Makdoom Raheen is pashtun hater and he is well known for that.Also pashtuns and tajiks in afghanistan are so mixed and similar.
                    That loy afghanistan will be still depending on others for trades etc.Pashtun will be in landlock country.While on the other side
                    Pashtuns make up half of baluchistan ,
                    s papulation and we have a great chance to unite pashtuns from chetral to bolan with baluchi brothers into a fedration of pashtunkhwa wa baluchistan.
                    We have better understanding with them and our culture and way of life is similar.
                    Both pashtuns and baluchis wants respect for their language and culture and they will never get that in persain dominated afghanistan and punjabi dominated country pakistan.It will be an ideal country for pashtuns.
                    Pashtun will be in majority with peace and harmoney with their baluchis brothers.It will be the center of the world and a strong state.
                    your comment is as garbage as the article.
                    please find your way to the bin.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      This article would greatly cheer up members in defence.pk. While it is true that pashtuns of pakistan are not willing to risk their future for unstable afghanistan, it doesnt mean that pashtuns are living happily in pakistan... terrorism, unemployment, price hike, loadshedding, corruption etc are problems that all pakistanis including pashtuns are facing.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                        your comment is as garbage as the article.
                        please find your way to the bin.
                        if you do not agree just say i reject your comments or you can disagree and explain it with logic .



                        Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                        pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                        hamza baba
                        پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
                        Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                          This article would greatly cheer up members in defence.pk. While it is true that pashtuns of pakistan are not willing to risk their future for unstable afghanistan, it doesnt mean that pashtuns are living happily in pakistan... terrorism, unemployment, price hike, loadshedding, corruption etc are problems that all pakistanis including pashtuns are facing.
                          no,not everyone is facing the same problems as pashtun do in pakistan.
                          The reality is that pashtun need sincere leadership.So far most of the pashtun leaders including some top ANP leaders are on the ,,ISI,,payroll.
                          It is big a mess ,,khodi khabar,,chi tsa ba kagi.
                          The baluchi leadership and people are fighting back and many of them died for their watan.On the otherside pashtuns are the loyal slaves of punjab.



                          Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                          pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                          be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                          gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                          hamza baba
                          پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
                          Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            well man pasthuns are afghans

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              I dont really worry about a Pashtunistan ; let's dismantle all Stans and establish a an Amirate which can springboard into a Khilafah.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X