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[Alchemist]

trollrunner,

You ain't helping the situation here. Quit it!

oh ya

you don't want to be seen with your paki allies in a pashtun forum eh.

[Wrayun]

oh snap

a momma joke

I didn't see that coming ...

damn your slick ...

I lose...

you win ...

here is your reward.

keyboard warrior.

Yes I am a keyboard warrior. I haven't learned to ride the mouse like you.

you wanna fight? you wanna throw down? huh nigga? huh? what nigga? jigga bo nigga? jigga what? WHO? WHERE?



come and meet me after school!

[BarakzaiAbdali]

oh ya

you don't want to be seen with your paki allies in a pashtun forum eh.

You are one of my favorite people on here. But now as you are in the heat of the moment you can see what I mean right? Afghan guys go from 0 to 60 in a matter of seconds, lol. I am sure you do not hate any of the Pakistani Pashtuns on here... but right now you are angry and i dont blame you. But at least consider what I wrote above.

[Alchemist]

Well this is the issue here really right? Brother Alchemist and I have had a very good relationship. I do not know Nick that well... but he seems like a nice guy. However, where I think you guys can help and where some of this acidity can be neutralized is very simple. You guys have experienced some of it as well and should be able to relate.

Here goes:

I personally believe in fighting fire with fire. I think its ridiculous to hamstring one group of people with the Islam card saying: You cannot comment on anyone north of the Kabul line because that just proves you are a racist. Toramana does this to Wrayun all the time. Then, in about 56 posts a month the same group calls Arabs everything from Camel jockeys to worse... and anyone with an opposing viewpoint is called a "Paki."

You guys should look at it in context. Look here at what was heaped on Brother Ghaznavi by Parsiwaan:

My appearance on Canadian talk show to discuss the Afghan war

So why should Wrayun be hamstrung from being able to sufficiently answer someone with an eye for an eye word when he gets called everything from Paki to Panjabified, etc.? And please spare me the Ghandi quote about the world going blind... its utterly useless. I believe in hearty and punitive reciprication.

The onlookers should also be intelligent and understand, when they have a good relationship with someone involved in the back and forth, that such verbage does not apply to them. If they choose to get involved, then it escalates and may become applicable out of anger.

So my advice is that if you feel Wrayun is exhibiting racist tendencies, I think we ought to try something concrete: Collect all the conversations here and count the number of times Paki is used as a slur and compare it with the number of times Tajik/Farsibaan has been used as a slur, count the number of times Zia Ul Haqism or Mullah Omarism is used as a slur and compare it with the insults on Mossoud and I bet you will see that Paki is used far more often.

Take young GraveyardofEmpires... he is 100% pure Afghan per the NATO definitions and he has had the epitaph Paki thrown at him by folks on here. No one steps in to counter that. The Admins do their best, but they cannot check every post.

And what you can do to show good faith is to ask the mods to step in and remove such posts beause they detract from the discussion.

Otherwise, I think its unfair to back Toramana up and allow the slur "Paki" to be used against anyone who is a contrarian.

Heck, if tomorrow we find out that Zia Ul Haqq said his favorite drink is water... why should Wrayun saying that he likes "water" be construed as being "Paki."?

Pakis call them self paki brother...
I know this for a fact

its like ******s calling themself ******s. And hey I call ******s ******s to their face. It is all in context.

On the other hand, the kind of racial hate that is on youtube etc is a heck of a lot more worse. It goes beyound that.

[Wrayun]

oh ya

you don't want to be seen with your paki allies in a pashtun forum eh.

Not just any Paki ally, just this one. He is as confused as you are. lollll

Taajik Pukhtoon Holy Charlatan Pukhtoonwale Preacher hahahahaha lollll

[Wrayun]

Pakis call them self paki brother...
I know this for a fact

its like ******s calling themself ******s. And hey I call ******s ******s to their face. It is all in context.

On the other hand, the kind of racial hate that is on youtube etc is a heck of a lot more worse. It goes beyound that.

[Alchemist]

Yes I am a keyboard warrior. I haven't learned to ride the mouse like you.

you wanna fight? you wanna throw down? huh nigga? huh? what nigga? jigga bo nigga? jigga what? WHO? WHERE?



come and meet me after school!

Yeah

let's do it.

if you are man enough to step outside your room.
Come to the real world.

[Alchemist]

impressive

Very impressive.

your debating skills are shinning so bright, its hurting my eyes.

wow.

you are so good at this **** throwing game.

No wonder you came across those trolls posts.

I bet you instigated them like that eh...

Thats your tact.


DAMN YOU!

SO SLICK


you got me. : (

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Pakis call them self paki brother...
I know this for a fact

its like ******s calling themself ******s. And hey I call ******s ******s to their face. It is all in context.

On the other hand, the kind of racial hate that is on youtube etc is a heck of a lot more worse. It goes beyound that.

Regardless, just know you are my brother. When I go neck to neck with Azmal, thats the same anger you are feeling talking first.

[Alchemist]

Not just any Paki ally, just this one. He is as confused as you are. lollll

Taajik Pukhtoon Holy Charlatan Pukhtoonwale Preacher hahahahaha lollll

careful now

don't get too excited.

But hey...

good to know that he is the exception. I wouldn't want that idiot on my team either if I were a paki.

But yeah ... I am confused...did you just call me a "Tajik Pakhtoon"?
What the heck is that?

[Wrayun]

Yeah

let's do it.

if you are man enough to step outside your room.
Come to the real world.

so sad so sad

reduced to this?

[Alchemist]

Regardless, just know you are my brother. When I go neck to neck with Azmal, thats the same anger you are feeling talking first.

I don't know about your epic war with Azmal.

Or for that matter any of the epic wars that are fought by most of you guys.

I just go by the facts.

Most of you are here to fight your inner demons. So you project them on other characters online.

It's fun.

As wruyun would attest.

It's also mutual.

You know what we say ... can't clap with one hand.

[Alchemist]

so sad so sad

reduced to this?

It's like you got a whole library of these images eh?
a collection from past battles...

Always on the ready for an e-throw down....

well I asked for it.. and you had me set up. DAMN you ...

so slick...

I should have known this was a trap ...

[Azmal]

Any version of Seculaism is a European Imperialist Doctrine set to maintain divide and rule of Muslim societies and pitting up different interethnic squabbles and creating ethnicity based "boogeyman" as a diversion. "Afghan Secularism" was Najibullah; who allowed Russians to urinate on naked Afghan women and kicked pregnant women to miscarry. While Pakistani secularism was bathing in the blood of 2 Million Bengalis.

Secularism and Democracy have nothing to do with Each other; in fact Secularism can be argued as the opposite of democracy because all Secular means is Anything not based on religion to rule; so a Tyrannc Capitalist Oligarchy which manipulates over the masses with its institutionalized Power Structure is perfectly acceptable in Secularism. It however is illegal completely in Islam.

This whole dynamic of accusing others of being Pakis; are exactly the type of Diversion tactic the Imperialist Europeans have used as a red herrings; It's no wonder that people who are Nationalists; are always sell outs who are really slaves of European Imperialism.

Zoboomafoo,
There you go another nonsense world view of an Arab…as if there is something called Muslim Ummah…fact is even at time of Khalafa e Rasheeden there was no Muslim national…but much like the European union, a organized cooperative of nations each with their own sovereign state and identity in allegiance towards the cause of Islam. There is no central absolute authority of a Khalifa, the Khalifa acted primarily as a administrator and balance of order…even then the Arabs with their murderous culture of dysfunctional imbeciles butchered one another after the downfall of a leadership… hello….are you Not familiar with the history of this region? Since when have Muslims not engaged in vindictive violence after yet another tyrant’s downfall? Even in Islamic Spain when the Arabs experienced the heights of their civilization’s riches, each new Caliph had to fight a battle or engage in war in order to take over from a previous leader. Even back then, Muslims showed little mercy towards one another. It is a fact backed by history when Muslim critics accuse them of not knowing how to live peacefully among one another. The odd compassionate king sprinkled across pockets of history just don’t cut it…the Europeans too had to once acknowledge that they had problems, before embarking on ideas that thrusted them on the pages of history as world leaders…we Muslim must too.
As for as Najib...and one party “democratic” system--- in PDPA controlled Afghanistan everyone was a slave to the apparatchik, including the people. Given this, only fools could call those murdering commies democratic or secular…but lets be honest here…its only in secular societies like USA or west that people are respected as individuals first and foremost in the eyes of the law. Owing to the resilience of their civil maturity, I can read the Quran, go to the Mosque, criticize the leadership, enter University or seek ways to create wealth, while people in my name and my religion attack these people. While in your “Islamic” utopia—Taliban controlled Afghanistan, Iran Suadi and..the whole populations get turned into effeminate little doilies in search of permission for merely speaking out their minds, let alone criticize the leadership, or practice any other religion.

[Wrayun]

It's like you got a whole library of these images eh?
a collection from past battles...

Always on the ready for an e-throw down....

well I asked for it.. and you had me set up. DAMN you ...

so slick...

I should have known this was a trap ...

I didn't do anything. You mad yourself look like an total arse. All that self-righteousnesses, and look at you now.

Laugh it off, that's all you can do.