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  • #61
    Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
    valeri il tell you this much things are worst now then they were when nato wasn't there , and thats a fact.

    Thank you Kakargirl, everyone's opinion counts. Even more of those who use reasoning and precedence to stress their points. I am not here to defend or accuse any party, I barely know about Afghanistan. But I will certainly talk when the reasoning behind any accusation, whether against the NATO or against the Taliban, lacks logic and evidence. And I am yet to see how well this practice was reported before the NATO got in Afghanistan.

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    • #62
      Valeri,
      I apologize for my rudeness in the previous post. I didn't mean to imply you were ignorant. My temper gets the best of me when this subject gets discussed.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Valeri Petrofsky View Post
        Thank you Kakargirl, everyone's opinion counts. Even more of those who use reasoning and precedence to stress their points. I am not here to defend or accuse any party, I barely know about Afghanistan. But I will certainly talk when the reasoning behind any accusation, whether against the NATO or against the Taliban, lacks logic and evidence. And I am yet to see how well this practice was reported before the NATO got in Afghanistan.
        valeri nothing is getting reported properly but if you ask a local kandaharian helmandian they will say things are worst now with nato everything is worst than before im from these areas ,the other thing i wanted to bring up was nato soldiers in our rivers naked is that a good thing when the kuchi and poor people still collect water from rivers its disgusting.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by khushal View Post

          I think you should watch the whole documentary before you post about it.
          I looked on youtube.com, and couldn't find the entire documentary. Could you help me with that? Thanks.

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          • #65
            here is the link to it

            FRONTLINE: the dancing boys of afghanistan | PBS

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            • #66
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              Valeri,
              I apologize for my rudeness in the previous post. I didn't mean to imply you were ignorant. My temper gets the best of me when this subject gets discussed.
              That is perfectly alright, no harm done. I did not find you rude. Apparently, you are not rude even with that temper ;-)

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Valeri Petrofsky View Post
                I looked on youtube.com, and couldn't find the entire documentary. Could you help me with that? Thanks.
                Laila beat me to it, but be advised, its very disturbing.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                  valeri nothing is getting reported properly but if you ask a local kandaharian helmandian they will say things are worst now with nato everything is worst than before im from these areas ,the other thing i wanted to bring up was nato soldiers in our rivers naked is that a good thing when the kuchi and poor people still collect water from rivers its disgusting.
                  Damn this is indeed very shocking. Do you have any pictures of their doing so, I mean the naked in the river part. If not, can you managed some? I would so love to show them to my friends in the US who can't stop defending the NATO war in Afghanistan.

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                  • #69
                    ^ ha ha Kushal

                    It makes me pissed off to see that nothing is being done to Dastakhar...or whatever his name is. He just allowed to be recorded freely on Frontline, and still, not a single action is done by the Afghan government....then again, its not surprising at all. Like that police officer or whatever he is, was in one of the bachai baazi event that was shown. Just shows how corrupt, shameful, and dishonest they are.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                      valeri il tell you this much things are worst now then they were when nato wasn't there , and thats a fact.

                      Only a blind xenophobe paki would consider International forces on the Afghan soil as a negative end unto itself. And this is in light of the fact that these same foreigners have been actively helping marginalise and disarm the murderous warlords, are sponsoring political discourse into a civil mainstream, are promoting an increasingly noisy media, they are empowering the Afghan women, and financing the building blocks of governing institutions.....And the fact that international forces are also helping cripple the decades old meddling of enemy states like Pakistan.
                      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                      • #71
                        these pics come in google search when you type helmand rivers

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                        • #72
                          They feel no shame... Actually they dont have their father's blood in their veins.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                            these pics come in google search when you type helmand rivers
                            It seems the search is a little different here, but still I got some. Thanks!

                            Edit: Would it be possible to get any pictures where locals/civilians are also in the view?
                            Last edited by Valeri Petrofsky; 03-25-2011, 01:35 AM.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                              Only a blind xenophobe paki would consider International forces on the Afghan soil as a negative end unto itself. And this is in light of the fact that these same foreigners have been actively helping marginalise and disarm the murderous warlords, are sponsoring political discourse into a civil mainstream, are promoting an increasingly noisy media, they are empowering the Afghan women, and financing the building blocks of governing institutions.....And the fact that international forces are also helping cripple the decades old meddling of enemy states like Pakistan.
                              Whats the matter with you. Are you afraid that you and your family members would stop making money off of the blood of innocent afghans.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                                Whats the matter with you. Are you afraid that you and your family members would stop making money off of the blood of innocent afghans.
                                wror azmal is not even worth talking to i saw his low life comments to barakzai wror.

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