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  • #46
    YouTube - Eminem - Cleanin' Out My Closet
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    The Secret To Eternal Life: Live Life To The Fullest, And Help All Others To Do So. The Meaning of Life Is Choice. Increase choice through direct perception.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by -Gulalai View Post
      no, because the songs of his that i do like are not about drugs or money. But his life is about money and is/was about drugs.
      i like those few songs, i dislike the life he lives.
      but i understand what you are saying. and i agree with you to an extent, but just because i like a few songs of eminem doesn't mean i praise the life he lives.

      Do you know what a Straw Man argument is?

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      • #48
        no

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        • #49
          Originally posted by -Gulalai View Post
          no
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

          A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position

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          • #50
            LOL

            1. Person A has position X.
            2. Person B disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y. Thus, Y is a resulting distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
              1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.[1]
              2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context — i.e. choosing quotations that misrepresent the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).[2]
              3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then refuting that person's arguments — thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated.[1]
              4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
              5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.

            3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.
            more like
            Person A: hip hop is all bad
            Person B: industrialized hip hip is bad (a lot of hip hop is bad) but not all of it.

            that's why i said i agree with you to an extent

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            • #51
              Originally posted by -Gulalai View Post
              LOL



              more like
              Person A: hip hop is all bad
              Person B: industrialized hip hip is bad (a lot of hip hop is bad) but not all of it.

              that's why i said i agree with you to an extent

              That wasn't my argument though .....

              But I think you're so attached to your habits, you just want to justify it however you can, so I'll let you figure stuff out on your own.

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