Real Hip Hop

[Gulalai]

I know that, but these artists, even with their political songs represent all of those things mentioned

hmm, a lot of them do, but not all of them.
& we enjoy their songs, we don't look up to them as role models lol
at least i don't & i hope no one else here does :S

[کیش]

you can still help it.

No i can't. I can't act like am in Pakhtunkhwa like I used to. I got and could get into a lot of trouble. Do you know most imams in NY are paid informants for NYPD, and FBI.

So,
Bukhana ghrawem

[graveyardofempires]

really my beard?!?!?!

nevermind that I don't do drugs or alcohol or ever have, nevermind that I have high degree of morals, don't indulge in larceny

but my beard? .....Wrora, this is what I meant about Salafism, the priorities are upside down.

the beard thing was a joke same as you were saying that we admire these people.i dont know what larceny means but listening to hip hop doesnt mean you should do drugs alcohol etc and act like these people.

btw im not a salafi and if you go to Afghanistan and ask people they will tell you beard is a must for a muslim.

[ScimitarXEdge]

hmm, a lot of them do, but not all of them.
& we enjoy their songs, we don't look up to them as role models lol
at least i don't & i hope no one else here does :S

but you can't deny that entire subculture reflects those things and is steeped in it; so why give anyone associated in that type of lifestyle or culture any accolades?

[Gulalai]

No i can't. I can't act like am in Pakhtunkhwa like I used to. I got and could get into a lot of trouble. Do you know most imams in NY are paid informants for NYPD, and FBI.
So,
Bukhana ghrawem

-_- i don't even know what to say to that LOL

but you can't deny that entire subculture reflects those things and is steeped in it; so why give anyone associated in that type of lifestyle or culture any accolades?

the industrialized hip hop may reflect those things, but most of the songs we post around here is the type of him hop that does not promote money and drugs, instead it downgrades it, and just speaks truth to their lives or what ever else they are raping about. so we're not giving any accolades to anyone, we just listen to the songs. (lol i had to look that word up. you have a very broad vocabulary) For example eminem DOES have some very messed up songs & i don't listen to those songs, but he also has some very good songs where he is speaking truth to his life, not how much money has or how many girls he can get or how much drugs he has.

[graveyardofempires]

Timz - there is war going on outside

YouTube - Timz - Iraq (Lyrics + Download)

[ScimitarXEdge]

the beard thing was a joke same as you were saying that we admire these people.i dont know what larceny means but listening to hip hop doesnt mean you should do drugs alcohol etc and act like these people.

btw im not a salafi and if you go to Afghanistan and ask people they will tell you beard is a must for a muslim.

Bro; we're not talking about the hukm of lahya(beard in Arabic), but we're talking about priorities; not even Nabi(saw) who is the one who advised people to wear beards, emphasized beards as much as people do these days. Isn't that bizarre?

The beard was only emphasized as a distinguishing feature of Muslims who were at that time a small minority; after they became a powerful and major entity, the idea of beards being prominently emphasized was never addressed.

There's nothing wrong with having a beard, but let's not take things out of context.

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/beard.htm

larceny is stealing things like cars and such.

[ScimitarXEdge]

-_- i don't even know what to say to that LOL

the industrialized hip hop may reflect those things, but most of the songs we post around here is the type of him hop that does not promote money and drugs, instead it downgrades it, and just speaks truth to their lives or what ever else they are raping about. so we're not giving any accolades to anyone, we just listen to the songs. (lol i had to look that word up. you have a very broad vocabulary) For example eminem DOES have some very messed up songs & i don't listen to those songs, but he also has some very good songs where he is speaking truth to his life, not how much money has or how many girls he can get or how much drugs he has.

but he himself participates in that lifestyle does he not?

[graveyardofempires]

wrora you are right hip hop is mostly non sense and the ones that make sense is 50% non sense.

and about the beard,well what can i say Afghans love their beards.

[Gulalai]

but he himself participates in that lifestyle does he not?

yes but i never said it was a good thing lol, i just said i like eminem as in i like some of his songs

[ScimitarXEdge]

yes but i never said it was a good thing lol, i just said i like eminem as in i like some of his songs

but why praise a man or show appreciation for someone who represents this behavior?

[Gulalai]

i never praised him. i said i like about 25% of his songs but for short i just said i like eminem, because i'm sure idiot understood what i meant

[graveyardofempires]

guys stop this discussion already
Gulalai i think you are on a mission to kill this thread.

[ScimitarXEdge]

i never praised him. i said i like about 25% of his songs but for short i just said i like eminem, because i'm sure idiot understood what i meant

isn't liking his work , the work of someone who uses his work to further his lifestyle also essentially praising him?

[Gulalai]

isn't liking his work , the work of someone who uses his work to further his lifestyle also essentially praising him?

no, because the songs of his that i do like are not about drugs or money. But his life is about money and is/was about drugs.
i like those few songs, i dislike the life he lives.
but i understand what you are saying. and i agree with you to an extent, but just because i like a few songs of eminem doesn't mean i praise the life he lives.