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Bacha unknowprince, you are unknown and then prince as well...that is kind of incomprehensible and contridictory...Prince are assumed to be well-known...anyhow, let us rogha jora okoo... -
Unknownprince, keep your personal grudge out of politics. No one is free from being banned. Anyone who consistently breaks our rules will be banned. There is a difference between attacking and insulting a member and simply being unaware. Oh, and Sangar was never permanently banned. We have had Israeli members who have been banned, and we have Israeli members that are still contributing. As you can see, it's up to the individual whether they want to be banned or not. Most of the times, like in Sangars case, we are forced to ban the user.Originally posted by unknownprince
Now refrain from derailing this thread, please.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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On another thread, a poster retorted that I ought not engage you. He saw you as a lost cause. I tend to disagree only because you remind me of a great many of my own family members who are basically good people, but wayward in my view. I find you intellectual and challenging, and I shall never cease to fiercely debate you.Originally posted by Toramana View Post
So for example, I disagree with your above self characterization based on your prior words (Toramana on Toramana if you will) and view it as a Zul Fikaar Ali Bhutto style denial of one's actual status in front of the people.:
By the way many Pashtun politicians(stalwarts), poets, literary figures, singers, etc. know me and can testify to it who am I. My mother was a papin-khel, actually I traced my mother line...and rest of the family, Zarif Khel....http://www.pashtunforums.com/hujra-1...lgabari-10575/
We have got property and are an educated family....
You might retort that even a farmer owns land he can till and this need not be a sensitive or specific measure of a feudal, but the qualifiers, adjectives, nouns you utilize in the prior sentence clearly denote you revolve in higher orbits than that of a non feudal.
For this reason, I believe you buttress and embody what the ANP and Afghan National agenda truly is: A party that claims to be for the people, by the people, and of the people, secular, and democratic, and even possibly meritocratic... yet a party that pays homage to feudals and sustains itself through father to son transfer of power (Bacha to Wali, Abdul Samad to Mehmud, etc).
It is basically a "new" old way of maintaining feudal control in the manner of Kuli Khan Khattak and his ilk.
Similar to how the democrats and republicans appear to present a choice, yet offer the same interventionalist policies and perpetual war, so to do the ANP and PPP offer their people hegemony and sustained feudalism."2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quoteComment
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Oh Toramana; and when it serves your purpose, you quote from Angrezi, Pakistani, American, Imperialist sources; while once claiming to be against them.
Shall we use this argument to discredit you just as you're trying to discredit BarakzaiAbdali?
It's foolish and logically false.
You behave like a squirming chinjay caught on a hook, trying to grasp for anything to regain ground.Comment
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Whether Taliban allow women's education or don't allow women's education; the ideological foundations of the Taliban are insufficient for being meritable; and they have proven themselves incompetent in fighting against a corrupt Invader without harming and violating the needs, wants and sanctity of the people they're claiming to fight for. If there is any blatant example of Hypocrisy it's here in the hands of the U.S./NATO alliance most of all.
That being said; We're well aware of U.S./NATO Disinformation strategies, Taliban's incompetence and erroneous views of social policy; does not make Imperialist occupation the champion of herosim; quite the contrary. Recently the Nexus of corruption has destroyed the Very schools they claimed to be fighting for and the village along with it. Whatever the excuse; it was done at the expense of the people. The closing of schools being portrayed as an attempt at "denying education" is a Strategic emotional appeal; rather than the most Likely scenario that such schools were closed on grounds of Affiliations with Occupation supported outposts and Imperial establishments. This is more to due with collaboration against invading enterprise than denial of education; the claim of education denial is merely a disinformation ploy.
This however does not justify the Taliban approach or activities; it however demonstrates the twisted desperation of Imperial Occupiers to warped reality to serve their interests however they can.
Acid attacks are certainly the act of the heinous for whatever reason.
However; so is Radioactive Poisoning of Afghan civilians through depleted Uranium weapons, Cutting off Afghan body parts as trophies for sport; occupying a land for imperial interests. These are things will have more permanent damaging effect than the closing of a few schools, and they're wrought by the hands of Imperial Enterprise.Comment
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Originally posted by Toramana View PostIn my opinion you are not even a kind human being for on these very forums you justified the killing of Pashtun civilians in Momand agency in suicide bombing...Ok, you can go on living in a cave in Kandahar under Mullah Omar ...don't speak on behalf of other Pashtuns and Muslims...
says someone who doesn't even have the audacity to declare his lack of faith in front of the very people he claims to be speaking for.
We do not have to listen to a ''namby-pamby'' like you.Comment
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then why do you try so emphatically to emphasize it?Originally posted by Toramana View PostComment
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په دی وررستیو کشی داسی نظرونه خپره شوي چی ویل کیږی طالبانو د دی وروسته د انجلو د زده کړی سره مخالفت نلری. وروسته له دی چی دا اوازه خپره شه د افغانستان د پارلمان ښڅیینه غړي، د ښځو د حقوقو فعالین، د افغانستان رسني او د هیواد ولس مشر د دی شایعه په هکله خپل ناباوری اعلان کړه په پارلمان کشی د وردک ولایت استاذي محترمه روشنک د بی بی سی سره په یوي مرکي کشی وویل چی زه دهغه نظر په کلکه مخالف یم په کوم کشی چی ویل شوي طالبانو خپل دریځ د انجنو د زده کړی په وړاندی ته تغیر ورکړی دی.هغي وویل چی طالبانو د ویری او تهدید په خپره کولو سره یوازی د شپږو ولسوالیو ښونڅي تلری دی. د طلوع تلویزیون په یوه ځانګړی رپورت کشی راغلی چی د سیمیز حکومتی چارواکی لخوا ویل شوی ۸۰ فیصده ښونځی یوازی په هلمند ولایت کشی د طالبانو د ګواښ له لوری زده کونکو او د هغوی کورنیو ته تلر شوي دی.څنګه چی د هلمند ولایت والی وویل کورني په دی بیریږی چی خپل ماشومان د زده کړی لپاره ښونځی ته واستوی ځکه بیریږی په دی چی د هغوی دماشومانو سره به هم هغه شان ته چلند وشی لکه د نورو سره پخوا شوی لکه د تیزابو پاشول د ماشومانو پرمخ.په دی وروستیو کشی د کندهار ولایت د زده کړی او روزنی ریس اعلان کړ چی په روان کال کشی پنجوس زره ماشومان د طالبانو د ګواښ او ویری له کبله د زده کړی ترلاسه کولو د حق څخه محروم شوي دی. په لاندنی دوو لینکونو کشی تاسو کولای شی د همدغه خبر بشپر تفصیل ولولی.د طالبانو د ناوره او ظالم حکومت په هکله تر افغانانو زیاتر هیڅ شخص معلومات نلری. کله چی د افغانستان اکثریت طالبانو ته منفی رايه ورکوی دا په دی د ځکه یو ولس لپاره یو لسیز دومره وخت نه دی چی د طالبانو هغه ظلمونه له ایری وباسی کوم چی طالبانو د ملت په وړاندی ترسره کړی دی.ایا د اسلام په مقدس دین کشی د ښځو حقوق خوندی شوي نه دی؟ بلی په اسلام کشی د ښځو د زده کړی، واده او د میراث حق په واضع ډول تعریف شوي دی، خو په هغه اسلام کشی چی طالبانو لخوا تعریف شوی د ښځو دغه تول حقونه پایمال شوی دی، حقیقت دا دی چی د طالبانو اسلام خو نه کوم بنیاد لری او هم هیڅکله د نړی د مخورو عالمانو لخوا تایید شوی دی.د طالبانو او ترهکړو د مشرانو لکه د مغرور ملا عمر او د القایده ظالم افراطی مشر اثامه بن لادن درواغین چهره د هری روځ په تیریدو سره افشاه کیږی. خو بیا بعضی شته چی واي طالبانو هیڅکله د ښځو د روزنی او زده کړی سره مخالفت کړی نه دی.زه تاسو محترم لوستونکو لاندی ویب سایتو لیدو ته دعوت وم تاسو په خپله قضاوت وکړی چی آیا د طالبانو مشران د انسانان مسلم حق چی زده کړه ده ورته په راتلونکی کشی اجازه ورکوی او که نه.په درنښتComment
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Abeer Hamza Al JanabiOriginally posted by noorzai View Post
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-for-rape.html"2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quoteComment
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No need to humor him. Each time you see one of his propaganda hit pieces, simply remind him of this:Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
Key Words: Abeer Hamza Al Janabi
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-for-rape.html"2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quoteComment
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