My appearance on Canadian talk show to discuss the Afghan war

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You stupid guy... go read some book.

I love reading your work, because it shows me exactly why you are so behind not only the Pashtuns, not only the Arabs, not only the Indians, and Pakistanis, but the whole of the world. In general, you may find about one or two educated Parsiwaan here in the US and they usually are far more educated in useless matters. They, like you, are usually willing to sell themselves to profit for some good ole white meat if you know what I mean.

1. You lost every war. Even against the great Abdali himself, he was kind enough to reseat the Amir of Bukhara thrice. The Amir was lucky he was not killed. That is called nobility

2. You noted Abdurrahman Khan's tactics of relocating the Ishaqzai to your lands. Once again, you lost pitifully. You proved you were an inferior specimen.

3. You sold yourselves to the Russians and decided that Dostum and Fahim would sit on your takhts and see the moral results of having a vodka drinking, half breed Russian as your Uzbek overlord. You want to talk about facts and statistics my friend... you people have lost your culture so much that where do you think the majority of venereal
diseases are diagnosed in Afghanistan? Do you know how they are spread? Do you understand that HPV positivity, a sexually transmitted virus, alongside Hep C runs rampant in your areas?

4. Your schools do not mean squat. All this translates to is: "look, we bend over for the Americans just far enough... please do the same so they can whisper the same sweet nothings in your ears."

5. Your stats about the makeup of the government are ludicrous. Why is it that Matthew Hoh, a US commander of high rank and repute thinks your idea is hogwash:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthe..._b_804803.html

http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks

" The conflict is very complex, multi-dimensional and goes back three decades. In 2001–02 we installed a government in Kabul headed by Karzai. In doing this, we backed one side in a long civil war—the more progressive-secular and urban camp, Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras, and some Pashtuns and those who live in the north and west. But it excluded one-third of Afghans, the rural, religious, traditional camp, who are Pashtuns in the south and east—which include the Taliban—whose forerunners we backed in 1980s, against the Soviets."

You moron, don't you see that a true Pashtun of the countryside sees Zahir Shah and Karzai and just sees your ugly face? They are also called Fasibaan by us.

6. You continue to prove your human inferiority because you lay the false claim to having thrown out Russia. You did not do so... you bargained with them. ScimitarEdge and others beat the hell out of you on the argument regarding Ahmad Shah Massoud selling his soul and country. Regardless, you did not throw out Russia, the Pashtuns did.

When this was all accomplished, you still beat your chest claiming you were "Afghans." The proud warriors that beat the Russians, etc etc. Yet you somehow cannot reconcile how you, the "proud" "warriors" cannot even beat back a Pakistani funded insurgency, supplemented by China, and Saudi? Where is your strength buddy?

Let me answer that: No where. You were pushed into Panjshir and then your idiot leader liked modeling in front of cameras and got blown to pieces for his stupidity.

7. Once your new masters are gone... get ready to be pushed right back into Panjshir unless you reform your sick sick depraved behavior. First Mazar is going to fall and when the Pashtana get to Panjshir, my hope is that we are as humble and great as Ahmad Shah Abdali and turn to an Islamic way of comprimise. However your days of vodka drinking, chicken eating, women raping, Afghan idol dancing days are going to get broken up.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You stupid guy... go read some book.

Oh, I expect to see your email responses from Matthew Hoh when you attempt to debate with him regarding the fact that Afghan Pashtuns actually DO comprise the Taliban:

"We misunderstand many ofthecauses of support for the Taliban. They didn’t wear sandwich boards or hand out pamphlets to win people. They are the Pashtuns. Most don’t want to rule the country. They just want to get rid of the occupiers."

Moreover, I look forward to how you will bumble your way through an explanation of how the Talibans core Kandahar shura is full of Pakistanis when everyone from Abdul Salam Zaeef to Omar himself are either Ghilzai or Durrani Pashtuns that were born, raised, and fought in Helmand Province.

I look forward to you stammering and stuttering "No but but but they may be that but but but their men are actually Pakistanis from Lahore that learned Pashto."

Give me a break. Go take care of your family, live your life, and enjoy the next decade or so, because in about a decade you are going to regret the choices you made.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

bow to Pakistan? That country is your god, who create, supports, fanciness and run Taliban? Go read your "brother" Owais Ghani then CM of Balochistan interview where he state Pakistan has a colony—Taliban run Afghanistan. Basically your saying you rather be a Pukistan colony then have non-pashton in gov. Well then screw Afghanistan…we are beating a death horse.

Maybe you understand the language of mathematics better than English. Let me break it down for you:

x = You = Pakistan = Saudi = America = Iran = Russia.

A free Afghanistan = y

Current Afghanistan = z

y = z - x

QED

[sahil112]

Constantly invaded? Angreez were brought by your Pashtun Shash Shuja, Russian were brought by your Pashton Babrak Karmal, Najib, Tani, and rest….Arab and Pakistanis were brought by your Amir E Momenin one eye Mullah Saheeb Omar…and Amirican come with Karzia.



You sure can try to expel us from our native land..this is what your other king did in North...brought Kochis and give our land to them..today these people are the breading ground for filth that is taliban... I’m seriously against ethnic cleansing but with you kind of people i sometimes wish Khorassan gets cleans.

they were defeated by us end of the day, but what do you lot do anyway? u lot sit there call yourself afghans but dont join in the fight, when the fight is won you then say oh im afghan look at us we won again im proud to be afghan dis and dah, you tajiks, uzbeks and hazara are all the same cowards just like massoud that dog piece of ****
mabey karzai did that but you abdullah abdullah also took a lot of money from america right? he is just like massoud another sell out, the whole lot of you are

your native land? your lot ****ing immegrated to afghanistan and we let you live there but i think its high time you left again and went back to where you belong couse its not afghanistan!

[BarakzaiAbdali]

they were defeated by us end of the day, but what do you lot do anyway? u lot sit there call yourself afghans but dont join in the fight, when the fight is won you then say oh im afghan look at us we won again im proud to be afghan dis and dah, you tajiks, uzbeks and hazara are all the same cowards just like massoud that dog piece of ****
mabey karzai did that but you abdullah abdullah also took a lot of money from america right? he is just like massoud another sell out, the whole lot of you are

your native land? your lot ****ing immegrated to afghanistan and we let you live there but i think its high time you left again and went back to where you belong couse its not afghanistan!

I dont know what is up with this guy. From my travels and acquaintenances, I am fortunate to know members of the Shahrani family who are predominantly Uzbeks and they are polite, respectful, and reasonable people. They do not agree with about 50% of Pashto culture, but they certainly understand the historical realities of the land and what is going on at the ground level far better than this joker. The interesting thing is that those folks are as loathe to deal with Russia, India, and Iran as we are (and of course Pakistan). So I know that Dave Chapelle once joked that stereotypes are there for a reason, and that Parsiwaan lives up to them, but I want to assure you that I have met some very good hearted decent people that would put this guy to shame.

[sahil112]

I dont know what is up with this guy. From my travels and acquaintenances, I am fortunate to know members of the Shahrani family who are predominantly Uzbeks and they are polite, respectful, and reasonable people. They do not agree with about 50% of Pashto culture, but they certainly understand the historical realities of the land and what is going on at the ground level far better than this joker. The interesting thing is that those folks are as loathe to deal with Russia, India, and Iran as we are (and of course Pakistan). So I know that Dave Chapelle once joked that stereotypes are there for a reason, and that Parsiwaan lives up to them, but I want to assure you that I have met some very good hearted decent people that would put this guy to shame.

ah im not saying all are bad but majority of them have this kind of attitude, mabey if he wasnt so rude about my people first i would of actualy responded without insulting him but as usual they get pretty rude to us and he has the nerve to ask what we have done in the last 250 years? enough of my ancestors have died defending this land and he is asking that question like we have been sitting there playing around and being slaves or something like that:@

but that you for enlighting me also wrora

[khushal]

thank you very much brothers and sisters for your feedback and encouragement.

i didnt mention anything on this site before the show because i wasnt too sure if i wanted to identify myself.

but i dont care now, im amongst my people.

:d

Amira,

Dont let any of these people bother you. You did really good against very experienced debaters. Many of these critics could not have done half as good as you.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

lol did the egg come first or the chicken? Forget Pakistan its was and is our enemy...what makes me surprise is when a Afghan-Canadian with long hair(wonder what taliban would do to him seeing his hair?) and suit and tie sings Pakistan line like a canary.

this idiot is getting annoying. wanna know why i have long hair? cuz my mamagan and my nekagan had long hair and a beard

im sure in kabul when your family members were servicing the kings u had to polish ur dari and cut your hair to fit in. but im a kaliwal homie

if u understood english, i said that the current war allows the isi to continue to manipulate pashtuns on both sides of the border

the ambassador actually asked me during the commercial break who was the greater enemy to the pashtuns: the americans or the isi

i told him the isi was but the americans are the short term obstacle and the isi the long term one

i understood how this beghairat sold his kun to the americans to try to rape pashtuns and now hes upset about the isi

[BarakzaiAbdali]

this idiot is getting annoying. wanna know why i have long hair? cuz my mamagan and my nekagan had long hair and a beard

im sure in kabul when your family members were servicing the kings u had to polish ur dari and cut your hair to fit in. but im a kaliwal homie

if u understood english, i said that the current war allows the isi to continue to manipulate pashtuns on both sides of the border

the ambassador actually asked me during the commercial break who was the greater enemy to the pashtuns: the americans or the isi

i told him the isi was but the americans are the short term obstacle and the isi the long term one

i understood how this beghairat sold his kun to the americans to try to rape pashtuns and now hes upset about the isi

He doesnt even know what he is talking about. The waziryaan and all of those other FATA pashtuns and the Prophet Muhammad himself had hair at a neck length. I think he is bald and that is why he is obsessed with your hair some reason. I can write him a script for Rogaine.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Girly hair e Qandolak,
There are thousands...wasn’t the non-pashton who stood up like a oak against pukistan invasion and prevented Afghanistan become fifth provinces of Pakistan. Im surprise you talk about capable non-pashtun but then you think of Amir Saheeb e Momemeen the 3rd grade pass, Pakistani stooge, one eye leader of Taliban Mullah Saheeb Omar as the only capable leader of your ethnic. Lol Are pashtun this much bankrupt and miserable that a one eye illiterate mullah becomes their sole leader? Man it sucks to be pashtun.

this guy is an idiot and has no understanding of politics ^ its obvious he skimmed the video and jumped to conclusions

lets examine the latent stupidity of this man

1. despite me on record saying that the isi funds the insurgency and manipulates pashtuns, he still thinks im parroting the pakistani line

2. he asked why wont the pashtuns accept a capable non pashtun leader. i asked him to name me one capable non pashtun. he referred to one who died 9 yrs ago

listen bachai bereesh, its obvious you have no formal education and lack reading comprehension

historical revisionism and khorassani rhetoric may impress you and the other 8 people who believe in it, but this is politics. take an intro 101 course in university first then talk

Heres a paper written by Matt Waldman called "Sun in the Sky". it goes into detail about the relationship between the ISI and the Taliban, based on interviews with dozens of former and curren taliban and haqqani network commanders

http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems...si-taliban.pdf

it explicitly states that there is an overt schasm between pro and anti isi taliban, but that as long as foreign troops are on the ground and the taliban as a whole are blacklisted and on kill/capture lists, they can never go over to the afghan side whose security apparatus are filled with the same ghairatman that raped pashtanas in the north and killed handcuffed talib prisoners

so in light of this, and considering that the 9 yrs of military operations have not changed Pakistans behaviour one bit nor has it decreased ISI control and ability to manipulate Pashtuns then obviously this war needs to come to an end

finally dont mistake me addressing you as me taking you serious

[کیش]

Parsiwans why are you prejudice to Pakistan? Pakistani"s are our bro"s, and me personally like them better then Persian Parsiwans.

Amir

Are you going on any other debates, in the near future?

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

it is not parroting the Pakistani line, if we recognize the reality, that Pakistan, a nation that hosted millions of our refugees and hold a sway over our country (right or wrong), deserves to have its interests prioritized over india

i am a hardcore pashtun nationalist to the bone, and i hate the isi with a passion. frankly, in my most reactionary, i am loathe to even recognize the concept of the pakistani state.\\

but reality is reality. the pakistanis have demonstrated that if their interests are not taken into account, they will have afghanistan burned with pashtuns as its primary victims

now for pashtuns to see through the isi games they would have to be educated and nationalist which they are not. they can only be so in an environment free of war

[graveyardofempires]

^^
isnt this isi theory a little full blown and treated as facts?
there is no proof of isi supporting taliban.
the afghan intelligence services wanted to exclude pashtuns from being in the intelligent services saying they can be working for pakistan.

and you answered to him on the break that isi was a greater threat?hoe is that possible while the invading forces are extremely quiped.

[Catya Sher]

^Yeah ! I could hardly believe that anyone would possibly believe ISI is a greater threat
than a full scale American military devastation of the country.
I am quite suspicious about why anyone could see this as the case.

[kakargirl]

wror i think you did a amazing job in representing the afghans , i know what tv shows are like how they cut you and give you limted time, you have to watch for your turn to speak even ,mashallah so proud of you .