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  • 92% Of Afghan Citizens Have Never Heard Of The 9/11 Attacks ?

    this does sound fishy

    "let me be politically incorrect,these people are primitive people,its a backward country"

    "its a civil war" "yes offcourse its a civil war"




    YouTube - 92% Of Afghan Citizens Have Never Heard Of The 9/11 Attacks
    Last edited by Guest; 01-20-2011, 09:58 PM.

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    Already shared and discussed
    yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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    • #3
      This poll is 92% of residence of Kandahar, and Helmand provinces only.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
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        allright
        now go back to sleep.

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        • #5
          ^ I wish I could, dad is still home :p
          yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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          • #6
            The video is new and useful.
            I can't believe that pejorative way of speaking that the ex-CIA "expert" uses.
            He also says 'the Pashtun' where he meant to say 'Pashtuns'. It was slightly awkward.

            I dislike this anchor guy so much it's difficult to listen to him at all.
            Especially when he mispronounces a lot of names, even AFFGANZ.
            At least he brings out the spending 2 million dollars a day - for WHAT ?

            The problem is that both he and the "expert" are totally convinced of the necessity for retaliation for the Israeli operation on Sept 11....
            nowhere do they even imagine there could be another explanation than the elusive Osama...

            THAT BY ITSELF is a form of brainwashing.
            it teaches listeners to not question, but assume that your elders know better than you. Look the guy was in the CIA and HE thinks like this.

            So who are you to argue or come up with alternate approaches.

            There is so much conformity and molding of thought in this country.
            Too bad most people are so oblivious to it and happily accept that simply
            of COURSE, "WE" must be in Afghanistan.

            Who's WE ?

            That's another groupthink that almost every expert and media presenter uses in America:

            "well when WE went into EYE-RACK, WE did this and that...."
            or
            "Why are WE sending tanks to Afghanistan".

            WE are not doing that.
            It's a small group which dictates American policy who has arranged for that.

            The use of language is very telling - and quite dangerous.

            It gives the impression that if YOU think DIFFERENTLY, YOU are not part of "WE" and "US"....
            hence YOU are UNPATRIOTIC, oh my goodness, you are a bad American.


            Last edited by Catya Sher; 01-20-2011, 11:53 PM.

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            • #7
              I have to say that I find it very difficult to believe that that report is based on facts. Afterall, it is FOX-news.

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              • #8
                10 years in and they just now realized this? Weren't they spewing a bunch of **** like 8 years ago about winning the heart and minds of the civilians?
                they are calling us backwards aswell now, well its their fault that we can't get educated because they keeping bombing and killing our people...they should just leave for our and their own good.

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                • #9
                  In particular, I find what the ex-CIA agent said quite interesting. He said something along the lines of 'not many people speak Pashto' that's not true at all. The tri-state area is full of Pashto speakers, it's just that they refuse to go. Pashto is spoken by 50-60 million people worldwide.
                  Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                  A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                  For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                  The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                  -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    In particular, I find what the ex-CIA agent said quite interesting. He said something along the lines of 'not many people speak Pashto' that's not true at all. The tri-state area is full of Pashto speakers, it's just that they refuse to go. Pashto is spoken by 50-60 million people worldwide.

                    Admina,
                    You are correct. There are many pashtuns in America, and they dont feel comfortable going because I think they feel their people are being marginalized. Pashtun translators were not in short supply when the soviets were there.
                    I have talked to some people that have gone as linguists with the US military and they have told me that their are many farsibans that are there and they dont speak one word of pashto and translating everything wrong, they are just making things up. There are even Iranians that have gone and dont know anything about afghan culture or Pashto. Many US soldiers are frustrated with the translators when they can not communicate with the common people.

                    Most afghans have been desentized to bombings and something that happened 9 years ago in a land far away from them have been forgotten. You can ask people in India and the majority would not know either.

                    Graveyard, dont be saying afghans are primitive, they are just in a different environment. If they are so primitive, why cant superpowers control these primitive people.
                    When I ask US soldiers about Iraq and Afghanistan, everyone of them that have served in both countries have told me that the afghan warrior is a student of war, whatever we throw at them, they adapt almost instantly to the point where we run out of ideas. Iraqi's couldnt adapt.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      Admina,
                      You are correct. There are many pashtuns in America, and they dont feel comfortable going because I think they feel their people are being marginalized. Pashtun translators were not in short supply when the soviets were there.
                      I have talked to some people that have gone as linguists with the US military and they have told me that their are many farsibans that are there and they dont speak one word of pashto and translating everything wrong, they are just making things up. There are even Iranians that have gone and dont know anything about afghan culture or Pashto. Many US soldiers are frustrated with the translators when they can not communicate with the common people.

                      Most afghans have been desentized to bombings and something that happened 9 years ago in a land far away from them have been forgotten. You can ask people in India and the majority would not know either.

                      Graveyard, dont be saying afghans are primitive, they are just in a different environment. If they are so primitive, why cant superpowers control these primitive people.
                      When I ask US soldiers about Iraq and Afghanistan, everyone of them that have served in both countries have told me that the afghan warrior is a student of war, whatever we throw at them, they adapt almost instantly to the point where we run out of ideas. Iraqi's couldnt adapt.
                      i was quoting these guys to show you how they try to demonize our people.
                      there is nothing backward about pashtuns or our civilization,we just dont have our own Media.and these media sources all ahve their own agenda,it looks like real journalism is dead.

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                      • #12
                        That's interesting to hear that US soldiers observed this adaptability of Afghans and Pashtuns especially versus Iraqis, khushal.

                        The quotations GYE put were pretty clear as they had quotation marks around them.
                        You leapt to that conclusion too hastily !

                        Also the part about THE CIVIL WAR GYE pointed out was so bizarre.
                        Civil war ??

                        That's a severe case of American DENIAL of the reality that the population doesn't want an American installed regime backed by American bayonets - and much worse.
                        These people are simply shifting blame on Afghans for their failure by that characterization.

                        Finally if Baer, the former CIA guy, said sending the Abrams tanks to Afghanistan was a big mistake, one can be sure it's a gigantic disaster.
                        He was surprisingly forthright about that.
                        That is so rare in any American media that I almost thought this clip was a spoof, like the
                        joke al-Qaeda interview posted in Entertainment earlier.

                        So if Baer let out that kind of protest about the inadvisability of tanks being used in this war, one can know that is a ticket to catastrophe.
                        Not to mention, a huge waste of American money to get the things over there...

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                        • #13
                          My apologies Graveyard, I didnt pay attention to the quotation marks.

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                          • #14
                            they are playing games they knew this years ago that the afghans don't know why nato is there and what a load of crap alot of people in helmand and across kandahar are literate only the women are completely iliterate the men just refuse to speak to these morons as they are very proud pashtuns .

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                            • #15
                              That was nice of you khushal.
                              You had great contributions to our understanding too.

                              Though I imagined that the Pashtuns are not going over due to scruples about the situation.
                              Such as handsomepashtun explained on a thread I recently brought up again, in Pashtun Culture, because I was so impressed at his strength to say no to all those glittering
                              promises.

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