Why do Afghani Pashtuns hate Pakistan?

[Manzareh]

^ i could say the same about you, and i will. apart from your last sentance of course as for me i reseach as much muslim nations as i can.

[Dervaish]

These are ambigious moral statements....obviously devil is bad Allah is great. Come on, this has nothing to do with the issue at hand. This, though, is a wonderful way to divert people and nations from the problems at hand.

You had your pick. Good luck. Keep hating. I am not interested in diverting your hateful attitude.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^ i could say the same about you, and i will. apart from your last sentance of course as for me i reseach as much muslim nations as i can.

Well can you substantiate these things? You research some muslim "nations" except your own. This thread proved it.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You had your pick. Good luck. Keep hating. I am not interested in diverting your hateful attitude.

Show me the posts where I have shown hatred? Speaking for your nation is not hatred. Khaana da gaz ao daa maidan.

[Manzareh]

^ no you proved that you have a tunnel vision and a naive approach to anybody that doesnt think like you do. i didnt make statements the inital post was questions even the ones that you felt wernt accurate you could have responded with "manzareh this isnt true i can prove it" but you couldnt, i dont blame you, people such as yourself have a problem with talking to someone on another wavelength, youd rather "pawn" people wouldnt you. BS i mean BLS

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^ no you proved that you have a tunnel vision and a naive approach to anybody that doesnt think like you do. i didnt make statements the inital post was questions even the ones that you felt wernt accurate you could have responded with "manzareh this isnt true i can prove it" but you couldnt, i dont blame you, people such as yourself have a problem with talking to someone on another wavelength, youd rather "pawn" people wouldnt you. BS i mean BLS

Not true....like I said look at the other posts of mine. I have discussed these issues with many many people. However one has to know some of the basics of discussion. Your posts just within these threads are riddled with inaccuracies. Like i told darwaish I will tell you...show me the proof. Da gaz ao daa maidan. If you can find such situations bring them forward, if not it is just hearsay.

Again for the pawn issue, proof would help :-).

[Azmal]

I was going to thank you for your views and your own clarification and knowledge of the questions or atleast giving a structured approach to answering the questions (apart from the ones you cudnt justify you pulled a fast one and just said its propaganda) i actually was beggining to respect you, UNTIL i read some indirect digs and racism and telling me to watch my mouth. you think your superior than pakistanis? i hate people that speak with such arrogance..typical
who the heck you think your threatening you clown?? karzai is a criminal, he should be hanged..yeah thats right the afghanistan president should be strung up from his balls and wipped, WHAT!? you going to do about it tough guy??? keep your keyboard warrior skills to yourself.

so im not going to thank you, infact i will tell you to shove your information where the sun doesnt shine.

Your verbal diarrhoea and constipated mind is duly noted as it’s always been noted both unfailingly and amusingly.
Evidently mule, it goes without saying that you P***s are lowly frauds whom jump from Angreez slaves, to Arab servitude, and onwards to that of the bosom of the filthy Chinese. Yet - amazingly enough -you manage to question someone else’s (Karzia) personal integrity? Right here in this current discussion string, you’ve proudly chosen to ignore your servitude to Angreez with your reward having been the wholesale theft of other people’s lands. To this day you proudly claim yourself as Angreez Meraskhors. Lol Seriously dud when I call you p***s coward, cultureless and identities I actually mean it. I honestly don’t understand how you p***s could live with yourselves.



TO Admin,

Its time to show our patriotism to our cause and ban these spaag of Pakistan that are insulting our WolosMishir...don't get me wrong I’m not pro-kariza nor i approve of his politics...specially giving in to warlords and being soft to our number one enemy Pakistan...but he is elected president of our Awad and we must now allow the children of Ali Jenah to bad mouth him. I have no problem if a Pashtons who think of him/her self as pashton first badmouth or insult kariza...but these ta bandi ma bandi Makani Fathans must not be allowed to insult an elected Afghan for the sake of Pakistan.

[Toramana]

I don't think it is any use wasting time on Manzeray...His knowledge of subcontinental history doesn't go beyond what is written in Pakistan history books or what is daily being churned out by the third-rated Urdu newspapers of Pakistan...You can look at the subcontinental history from 4 perspectives at least...(1) Pakistani(Primarily Punjabi-Mahajar----some of the Pashtuns like Manzeray are just intellectual consumers of what the mainstream Punjabi-Mahajar intellectual elite says...). (2) Indian (3) British (4) Independent and impartial observers then you can form independent opinion...

You can also include Afghanistan's perspective...

[Manzareh]

^ you forgot (5) the greatest man that lives is Toramana, no? lol

[Toramana]

Look at him---you don't see in his view any shade of Indian, British, or Independent perspective...You don't even see any Pashtun or Sindhi or Baluchi or Bangali perspective of the history of independence or the later developments in his views...All he says is what the official media of Pakistan controlled by its military establishment through the rightest Punjab-Mahajar based intellectual elite says....

[Toramana]

As for comparison to Karzai...there was a Ghulam Mohammad, the governer general of Pakistan a paranoid disabled man running Pakistan through American consent (1950s). When he was dethroned from power, Sikander Mirza went to him and asked him to step down...He said something in response, which Sikandar Mirza couldn't understand because Ghulam Mohammad who was paralyzed couldn't speak clearly and was dependent on a special interpretor.

Sikandar Mirza asked the interpretor what did Ghulam Mohammad say, the interpretor remained silent...Ghulam Mohammd asked to tell Sikandar Mirza what he had said about him. And the interpretor said, "huzzor (Ghulam) farmatai hain kai hazoor(Sikandar) barai haramzadai hain"...

[Toramana]

Likewise when Khwaja Nazimuddin was dismissed by Ghulam Mohammad, he tried to call Her Highness Majesty the Queen of England to make a complaint to her about his dismissal ... but the telephone had been disconnected by Ghulam Mohammad and company...

Actually, this Ghulam Mohammad was a Punjabi...Nazimuddin was a Bangali...so that was the actual factor...

[Toramana]

Another episode...In 1950s, General Nasir of Egypt nationalised the Suiz Cannal...Britian, France, and Israel were very frurious and planned to attack Egypt... Hussain Shaheed Suharwardi was PM of Pakistan ... when some people demanded Pakistan govt should condemn the attack by Britian, France, and Isreal and that, there should be an alliance of Muslim countries, Hussain Shaheed Suharwardi replied, "all Muslim countries are like zeroes, so zero plus zero plus zero...is equal to zero...And that we need an alliance with a strong country like US". He further said, "it is good Britian, France etc. will teach Egyptians good behaviour"...

Pakistan at that time was member of SEATO, CENTo, etc.

[Toramana]

See the following excerpt.


"According to a usually reliable source in the Governor-General's household, Ghulam Mohammed kept General Mirza and Chaudhri Mohammad Ali on tenterhooks for several days as he refused to sign the resignation prepared for him. He was rational for several days preceding the ceremonial ten described in the referenced despatch but "childishly" stubborn about signing away the last vestige of his rule. His daughter's and son-in-law's entreaties failed, but an aide finally persuaded him to sign by promising him a trip to his favorite Muslim shrine near Lucknow, India. The source, a layman, described Ghulam Mohammed's mental affliction as a failure of blood supply to one portion of the brain. This condition is permanent; Ghulam Mohammed's health continues to improve but he will never again have the full use of his faculties. For almost two months after his stroke on June 27 Ghulam Mohammed's utterances were 90 percent irrational; the proportion is now reversed"

The link is:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakist...gue.htm#ghulam

Below is a report about Ghulam Mohammad.

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakist...23sept1955.jpg

[Toramana]

And here you go. US appoints Sikandar Mirza as the governer of east Pakistan so he suppresses the presumed Bangali campaign for political rights.

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakist...29may19542.htm