Why do Afghani Pashtuns hate Pakistan?

[graveyardofempires]

Manzareh; when I said he's half Pashtoon and speaks Farsi, I didn't say that so you can use it against him.

He just finds the gross excesses of Pakistani policy whether through ISI proxies or otherwise has caused harm. So when he hears defense of Pakistan he finds such unjust and must be vilified.

Please do not degrade our Brothers in Panjshir; they are also MUSLIMS. If Azmal degrades Punjabis this is wrong, but does that excuse others doing it too?

talking to manzareh is useless
once he is saying every hu man being is equal and next time he is jumping around screeming he is full blooded pashtun and speaks pashto and upholds pashtunwali.LOL

joke of the century

[graveyardofempires]

to the haters on here
listen carefully:farsiwans are our sunni muslim brothers and your excuses for not willen to unite with pashtuns are not working.
if you dont want to be united with pashtuns from afghanistan thats your own choice cuz there are no compromises on Afghanistan.
farsiwans have been our brothers for hundreds if not thousands of years and we are hanafi which means fromt he school of thought of Imam Abu Hanifa a farsiwan.
we are proud of our farsiwan brothers such as Abu Mulsim Khurasani,Abu sina.
you think the world started after the rise of criminals such as masood ,dostum,sayaf,rabani,mazari, etc.

[Manzareh]

Punjabis are our muslims brothers

[graveyardofempires]

Punjabis are our muslims brothers

yes punjabis are our muslim brothers and they should unite with us instead of deviding our people.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Punjabis are our muslims brothers

and so are tajiks, arabs, kurds, persians, hazaras, uzbeks and turks.

Why draw lines?

[sahil112]

becouse the pashtuns in pakistan consider themselves pakiz hence why i dislike them.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

becouse the pashtuns in pakistan consider themselves pakiz hence why i dislike them.

Considering oneself for legal reasons and then being more loyal to the king than the king himself/herself are two different things. I have issue with the latter, not the former.

[sahil112]

Considering oneself for legal reasons and then being more loyal to the king than the king himself/herself are two different things. I have issue with the latter, not the former.

why?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

why?

Because the division from Afghanistan was not the fault of Pashtunkhwa Pashtuns nor was the fact that they were forcefully incorporated into Pakistan (despite what house negroes say). Those were things in the hands of bigger geo-political factors and super powers. Pashtuns were merely stuck in the middle, and the fact that they politically and militarily resisted the powers at the time didn't help them during partition. So I can't blame the former in that basis. However if such Pashtuns (regardless of lar or bar) are more loyal to a state like Pakistan, Peerang or Iran or say a militia like NA that is where I have a problem. That to me is treachery.

[sahil112]

Because the division from Afghanistan was not the fault of Pashtunkhwa Pashtuns nor was the fact that they were forcefully incorporated into Pakistan (despite what house negroes say). Those were things in the hands of bigger geo-political factors and super powers. Pashtuns were merely stuck in the middle, and the fact that they politically and militarily resisted the powers at the time didn't help them during partition. So I can't blame the former in that basis. However if such Pashtuns (regardless of lar or bar) are more loyal to a state like Pakistan, Peerang or Iran or say a militia like NA that is where I have a problem. That to me is treachery.

ah i see your point think i have 2 agree it was not thier foult for the durrand line etc and so your saying it dosnt matter to you if they call themselves pakiz aslong as they are not loyal to the state right?

[Michin Khel]

becouse the pashtuns in pakistan consider themselves pakiz hence why i dislike them.

You are an american thats why i dislike you?
Bls and toramana are canadian citizens thats why i dislike them?
dreamer is UK citizen thats why i dislike him?

[sahil112]

You are an american thats why i dislike you?
Bls and toramana are canadian citizens thats why i dislike them?
dreamer is UK citizen thats why i dislike him?

when did i sai im american lol ? i live in the uk
and i dnt have much against pakiz 2 of my own boiz 3 pakiz who iv nown since year 4! der pretty much family
what i dont like is that pashtuns who are afghans start calling themselves pakiz and then paki pathans and then after a while they forget who they are and just say im from pakistan.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

ah i see your point think i have 2 agree it was not thier foult for the durrand line etc and so your saying it dosnt matter to you if they call themselves pakiz aslong as they are not loyal to the state right?

Basically what I mean is that for document reasons, Pashtunkhwa Pashtuns have to write Pakistan beside it for legal reasons today. However we should as Pashtuns in general be united with our own....after all this is all our land from amu to attock. What has divided is british imposed lines.

[Pashton Pride]

First and foremost, there is no word such as ''Afghani Pashtuns''. Afghani refers to the currency used in Afghanistan and even if you want to make reference to Pashtuns of Afghanistan, you just say Afghan Pashtuns (although Afghan is synonymous to Pashtun, vice versa).

I am not going to answer your questions in a chronological order since tor_khan rightly put it ''Actually when you mix up historical events with misinformation/lies, you certainly don't end up with the "truth". But would like to make a few points clear to all. Although your questions have no rational legitimacy but rather have a futile personal view attached to them, which nonetheless, does not render any significant point for one to answer them.

To make my matter-of-fact as concise as possible, let me explain why Afghans have developed a sense of dislike and hatred towards Punjabis (though not all Pakistanis).

Since the inception of Pakistan in 1947, Punjabis who have been the main and dominant political group, have done unjust to Pashtuns living on either side of the Durrand Line.

They failed to hold a transparent and legal referendum to ask what Pashtuns of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan desire to want with their lands and identity. They falsely concluded that Pashtuns want to become a part of Pakistan and hence, separated a nation that was always united throughout the history, united against superior powers and lived dignified lives. But the Punjabis marginalizied and subdued Pashtun rights to make progess in social and economical circles of life under their new Pakistani name.

If that's not a major reason for Afghans to dislike Punjabis, then I reckon there are a whole alot more reasons which are equally important to Pashtuns. You can ask a Waziri or Momand to give you more explanation.

[Laila]

First and foremost, there is no word such as ''Afghani Pashtuns''. Afghani refers to the currency used in Afghanistan and even if you want to make reference to Pashtuns of Afghanistan, you just say Afghan Pashtuns (although Afghan is synonymous to Pashtun, vice versa).

Finally!!!!