Barakzai: Where you stand

[fzpz]

The obsession with Pakistan is hilarious. Your concocted stories and history aren't going to make a damned difference in the minds of the people that are living there, and they're the only ones that matter.

[Alchemist]

..and the romantic brotherhood that you are talking about is not humanly possible...

tsk tsk tsk...

this says a lot about your own capacity to bond/

[khyaal]

The obsession with Pakistan is hilarious. Your concocted stories and history aren't going to make a damned difference in the minds of the people that are living there, and they're the only ones that matter.

The occupation of Pakhtunkhwa and Baloch land is a harsh reality for Pashtun(afghan) nation, my friend.

BTW, what about Pakis' obsession with India while their strong passion of love for the British colonialists, the infidels who were the people who dispossesed the Muslim rulers of India?

[Toramana]

I cannot speak for Wrayun. I am not advocating religiousity or secularism. I am advocating an independent and natural evolution of the country to afford an uninterrupted movement towards a more perfect union.

I don't know which times are you living in my dear "Afghan" aristocrat. We are not living in the compartmentalized world of some bygone age, insular within. Globalization, modernization, revolutionary changes in media and mode of communication, Internet, letc. have tightly bound all things togethor exposed to changes and sub-ordinate to the dictates of an international order run by states with broader/global influence.

Moreover, it is not some slumbering medieval era world technologically stagnated and rigid to adopt to changes. Societies and states in todays world'go for rapid modernization of their societies in order to quickly develop the required human resource base for a sustainable life-standard. and stable society And they don't do it just on their own. They are aided by other govts, financial institutions, etc....and with that comes compromises, constraints, bargaining positions, etc.

This includes freedom from American, British, Iranian, Arab, and any other states interventionalism. It especially includes being free from interventionalism from ideologues like ourselves and folks that do not speak for the masses of Pashtunkhwa. I am advocating letting the people experience their Puritan phase and decide what is best for themselves. I am advocating that the man on the ground, not Karzai, who ran to comfort in the West, be given a say.

Mr "Afghan" aristocrate, I wonder why did you fail to mention Pakistan/Punjab as one of the interventionaist states while you pointed to Iran, Arabs, Americans, etc as interventionist states? And why are you so much sensitive about Pukhtunkhwa as to mention its name again and again in any reference to Pashtuns/Afghanistan? Doesn't this belie something?

Again, sections of a society oinfluence thers sections. You cannot insulate a populace from thoughts and perception originating from within...The proper thing to do is to allow all ideologies to be put before the masses for them to sift and choose from.

[khyaal]

Toramana you are teaching him as if he doesn't understand these things. Had he been such a gullible, he would now be doing some menial jobs for Saudi or UAE Sheikhs or fighting battles against the infidels in his native afghan land. LOL

He is very wise in his personal decisions just like Wrayun, Catya bhai and unknown prince etc.

[kakargirl]

lol catya for your information is a girl and a very intelligent girl

[Toramana]

khyaal, you mean he along with his other comrades is an imposter not interested in serious discussion?

[khyaal]

I know she has got good english skills.

[Catya Sher]

What does that mean?!
I'm just reading through this thread.
Sounds intriguing, I'm going back to the start to catch all.

[khyaal]

khyaal, you mean he along with his other comrades is an imposter not interested in serious discussion?

They will twist everything which goes to Pakistan/Punjab's benefit, i.e., their desire is that either afghanistan remain perpetually destabilized or it gets turned into Punjab's colony just like yours and mine occupied afghan land. They don't much care about the US or the infidels. These are all pretenses to fan the war in afghanistan. Otherwise they would have spit on the American land and its privileges they enjoy there. This seems sheer hypocrisy.

[Catya Sher]

Kakargirl is the nicest of our women members. She is really "with it". ESPECIALLY for her age. You can't get things past her, she's too awake.

She will back you into a corner in 5 minutes!

[kakargirl]

for your information i do have my own thoughts and my own brains and i speak to my family back home every single day i know exactly whats going on more than you will ever know as i have alot of family in kandahar and helmand so im not dumb or blind its my country its my people.

[kakargirl]

my fathers offered to take some familys out from kandahar as hes a very rich man but do you know something those people wont be moved they are very proud muslim pashtuns they have too much gharath they would rather die on that land than be asylum seekers here and as for my own family they can get in to uk but nope same with them too much pride they would rather die and stay back there and try to help the unforunate i know too much whats going on back home in afghanistan kandahar

[khyaal]

People can be so Gullable.

Don't you know they all have families in Quetta and Qandahar? They all are true afghans.

[kakargirl]

lol khyal may be you have family in quetta me i never been to pakistan and neither do i ever want to go im proud of my kandahar but you seem like a very complexed person