Afghanistan a Failing State by Real Economic Measures

[ډګروال]

what was that? I didn't hear you answering my question..

that's right... move along son..

Oh yes.. they were so sovereign..when pakistanis, arabs..and what not came down..

Killed your president..

who was also a pashtun.. with all the respect they gave him... inside your country.. true story...

i wonder where your ghairat is gone.. lol

again you are simply playing and i dont believe you are that ignorant.
you need to move along since your views are biased and nothing to do with ground realities, more like wishful thinking.

so according to you Afghanistan wasnt sovereign and now it is and in future it will be when we have bases in our country?

he wasnt my president neither do i support avenging him by killing and maiming thousands of Afghans.

[JAMALUDEEN]

again you are simply playing and i dont believe you are that ignorant.
you need to move along since your views are biased and nothing to do with ground realities, more like wishful thinking.

so according to you Afghanistan wasnt sovereign and now it is and in future it will be when we have bases in our country?

he wasnt my president neither do i support avenging him by killing and maiming thousands of Afghans.

how can it be sovereign..when foreigners enter it in the name of religion and kill and torture your people.....

Here is another question.. Was Zahir Shah your king? I heard he used to drink alcohol..and would even swing around with other women..

and no one minded that.. even though he was doing all that kufr..and 99% of the country was all muslims..

and no one cared.what a shame..

you are going to say "ahem..ahem.. you are playing the ignorant game now.. Afghans are very religious people..I don't know what you are talking about.."

[ډګروال]

how can it be sovereign..when foreigners enter it in the name of religion and kill and torture your people.....

Here is another question.. Was Zahir Shah your king? I heard he used to drink alcohol..and would even swing around with other women..

and no one minded that.. even though he was doing all that kufr..and 99% of the country was all muslims..

and no one cared.what a shame..

you are going to say "ahem..ahem.. you are playing the ignorant game now.. Afghans are very religious people..I don't know what you are talking about.."

you are simply trolling and are not here to learn.
najib or zahir shah have nothing to do with 2013 Afghanistan.
im sure you will bring in Amanullah khan as well in this story.

quit flip floping.

you just looking for an excuse to justify the war and foreign occupation and how good they are for the country. For that you would stoop so low that you call slavery freedom and freedom slavery.

[JAMALUDEEN]

you are simply trolling and are not here to learn.
najib or zahir shah have nothing to do with 2013 Afghanistan.
im sure you will bring in Amanullah khan as well in this story.

quit flip floping.

you just looking for an excuse to justify the war and foreign occupation and how good they are for the country. For that you would stoop so low that you call slavery freedom and freedom slavery.

you are the one trolling..lol you have hardly answered any of my questions...

Is this what they teach you in the madrassas of Pakistan now? troll on forums... go read the quran or something..and grow your beard..before the taleban catch and beat you with a sotayee in your butt..

[JAMALUDEEN]

[randolph85]

That pic of a light public lashing is a lot more tame than the mutilated bodies paved by NATO for our "freedom"

[HalloIsBack]

you are the one trolling..lol you have hardly answered any of my questions...

Is this what they teach you in the madrassas of Pakistan now? troll on forums... go read the quran or something..and grow your beard..before the taleban catch and beat you with a sotayee in your butt..

now i know why he was for some time not here and it's now more stupid and radical then before

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Accidental post

[randolph85]

For what has been spent, Afghanistan can't show progress in PROPORTION to the aid it has received, but the nation has progressed ten-folds since the Taliban era, I mean Afghanistan went from practically no telecommunications sector to now over 80% having phone, and about half the population with access to internet, and a ton of folks in school(albeit the teachers could be better); nevertheless this is progress by all real measures, and it should continue.

this is the kind of psychological blackmail that hangs over the heads of afghans, though. "support us or this goes away." the money would of done the same thing no matter who was in power in afg, karzai or omar.

[SiiNii]

lol.. here is a simple question..

Why did they destroy the bhuddas?

On a Hazara website I saw a translated Taliban document ordering "Mughal cultural artifacts are to be destroyed". I suppose it was a way of erasing Hazara heritage, sort of like when the Christians conquered the Northern Europeans, they burned or cut down their sacred trees, groves, etc. Or when Muhammed captured Mecca, he had the various idols destroyed.

[Kushan Prince]

On a Hazara website I saw a translated Taliban document ordering "Mughal cultural artifacts are to be destroyed". I suppose it was a way of erasing Hazara heritage, sort of like when the Christians conquered the Northern Europeans, they burned or cut down their sacred trees, groves, etc. Or when Muhammed captured Mecca, he had the various idols destroyed.

Lets get one thing straight,

The Buddhas of Bamyian have NOTHING to do with hazaras.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Siini, i doubt that it has anything to do with hazaras.

[khushal]

this is the kind of psychological blackmail that hangs over the heads of afghans, though. "support us or this goes away." the money would of done the same thing no matter who was in power in afg, karzai or omar.

According to Mike sheurer, If the US wanted to work with an uncorruptable force, the only choice would have then been the Taliban. You saw the NA in power with no money pre 96 and they took the country as Admin Kan puts it "to the stone age" and then you had the NA in power again post 9/11 but this time with an unlimited amount of money and all they did was spend a couple of pennies for rebuilding for every thousand dollars donated.

Its like Donald Trump giving ADmin Khan a billion dollars and all he does is build a Mcdonalds on some corner in New york and he boasts about bringing progress while in Real terms its a complete failure.

[JAMALUDEEN]

According to Mike sheurer, If the US wanted to work with an uncorruptable force, the only choice would have then been the Taliban. You saw the NA in power with no money pre 96 and they took the country as Admin Kan puts it "to the stone age" and then you had the NA in power again post 9/11 but this time with an unlimited amount of money and all they did was spend a couple of pennies for rebuilding for every thousand dollars donated.

Its like Donald Trump giving ADmin Khan a billion dollars and all he does is build a Mcdonalds on some corner in New york and he boasts about bringing progress while in Real terms its a complete failure.

um...there has been still some progress..

whereas in the taliban era.. educational system collapsed..there was no jobs.. ..nothing..

what's with you and donald trump? lol.. he is a kafir.. you seem to love talking about him..

[khushal]

On a Hazara website I saw a translated Taliban document ordering "Mughal cultural artifacts are to be destroyed". I suppose it was a way of erasing Hazara heritage, sort of like when the Christians conquered the Northern Europeans, they burned or cut down their sacred trees, groves, etc. Or when Muhammed captured Mecca, he had the various idols destroyed.

First the Moghuls were not Buddists and they did not build the buddhas in bamyan. The Buddhas in bamyan pre dates the Moghuls. The Moghuls were Sunni muslims, the hazaras are shia muslims. The most visible Moghul artifact is the tomb of Bubar in Kabul.

Second if your talking about the Mongols, that is also false. The Mongols did not build the Buddhas either. They predate the mongol invasion as well and the Hazaras are left from the mongol invasion so the buddhas were there before the hazaras came into the picture.

The guy that wrote the present constitution of Afghanistan, Professor Rubin, explains it in a pre 911 interview. It was more a cry for help.
Taliban with Charlie Rose - Part 3 of 3 - YouTube