70% of Afghan women are raped via forced marriages

[RevolutionThroughReason]

According to your ridiculous analogy, women and men in the Muslim world are raped by each other because an arranged marriage in general can be construed by the likes of Western individuals such as yourself as rape.

No because I don't equate arranged with forced marriage necessariy; Forced marriages are nonconsenting this happens when women are

However, women who are intoxicated with alcohol and are raped due to lack of knowledge are not raped because they made the decision to go to the bar?? What?

No rape is rape; but their choice to get intoxicated is their own, if they get raped that's not their fault, their lack of inhibition is their own choice though

So it's not a problem with analogy; you just deliberately attempt to create a straw man.

You know thats actually the typical thinking of an American trash male who goes to a bar to pick up women after buying them many drinks.

Yes probably is; strange that you were the one who thought of it, and not I.

your misrepresentations reveal your thinking not mine.

[Shah-i-Kot]

didn't see the link or just being deliberately obtuse again and pretending if you don't see it, it's not there?

http://www20.csueastbay.edu/director...ounosFarid.pdf

great evidence!!!

The same old, you have consistently failed to provide any evidence for any argument you have ever ever made. When someone presents you with evidence from Dr. Pape (facts), you go on about some other jiberrish about correlations doesnt imply causation??? Right out of Statistics 101

So why do people do suicide bombing? For fun? Because some Saudi Arabia or Pakistan told them to do it as you falsely pretend to think? So the NATO occupation has nothing to do with it?

Dr. Pape's findings indicate that it does. You still have failed to ever face the facts.


and your doing the same thing here, presenting ridiculous arguments.

So Pashtun men and women rape each other due to arranged marriages?


How stupid...

[Shah-i-Kot]

cut the pretentious crap out...for all practical purposes arranged marriages are forced marriages.. boys and girls rarely ever have the choice outside of what their parents deem to be acceptable not only in Pashtun culture but in every other Muslim culture associated with the region.

[faye]

Western women/girls who go to a bar do not have a choice when they are drunk and intoxicated, and then raped. They are not in their right minds.

When alcohol is involved, women are most likely always raped.

the problem with some of you guys, is that you are not used to taking resposibility for your own actions.
when i went drinking, i took responsibility for anything that happened to me or that i did after having consumed alcohol.

we have a saying, 'if you can't do the time, don't do the crime'

do you know what being intoxicated or having a couple of alcoholic drinks, feels like?
some people can consume a lot and still remember and make sensible decisions.
khushal and lynx, you guys are extremists. you tend to make these extremes appear as the norm.
it is like me saying, all women in afghanistan are unhappy in marriage or all afghan women want to burn themselves to get out of a failed marriage.

[Shah-i-Kot]

and great fixation on women only in these arranged marriages.

Its sounds like one of those liberal feminist extremists who support the NATO war to "forward womens' rights"

Again, stinking and disgusting propaganda.

Pashtun women, children, and men are dying to due to the NATO war- airstrikes, night raids, and drone attacks, and here you are going on about some garbage argument that feeds into CNN type propaganda that demonizes Pashtuns.


Might as well say that 70% of Muslim females and males are raped by each other across the Muslim world.


Dumbass

[faye]

do i see a rant coming on lyN, dear? :-o

[Shah-i-Kot]

what researcher?

what are you talking about, first you say they have choice, then you say they dont have choice. they voted the guy who made the decision right so therefore they(the american people) made the decision. The american people were manipulated by the media into doing so. the bar thing is also manipulation. I already explained this. It all has to do with what is socially acceptable and what is not.
The media has a big influence on that. If the media says "science says eggs are bad" or "science says eggs are good" . they believe whatever the media tells them like zombies.

your wasting your time talking to this dumbasss with his stupid views.

[faye]

As far as the alcohol consumption goes and the manipulation that happens with it. I would like to ask you a question since you think you know more about western culture than I do. Can you explain to me why these "bars" are on the scene everywhere but 200 years ago, they hardly existed everywhere. Why is it socially acceptable for women to wear mini skirts today but 200 years ago it would have been unthinkable. I will await your answer.

heaven forbid that i should imagine i know anything about being female, westernised or alcohol consumption, khushal.
of course a muslim, male, sexist, chauvinist like yourself, and the dippy lynx, would know better. lol.

were you actually seriously expecting serious answers to these dumb questions, khushal?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

great evidence!!!

The same old, you have consistently failed to provide any evidence for any argument you have ever ever made. When someone presents you with evidence from Dr. Pape (facts), you go on about some other jiberrish about correlations doesnt imply causation??? Right out of Statistics 101


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Why do you keep jumping around topics .....if it wasn't good evidence you wouldn't be desperately trying to change the subject in typical Toramana/Soldat Amr style fashion as you are now

And more over why are you making a straw man argument; clearly 70 year old men aren't "forced" to marry these girls, it's the girls forced to marry them.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Pashtun women, children, and men are dying to due to the NATO war- airstrikes, night raids, and drone attacks, and here you are going on about some garbage argument that feeds into CNN type propaganda that demonizes Pashtuns.

I like how you say Pastun women and children are dying due to NATO air strikes; and NOT to Taliban attacks, even though it's well known that taliban attacks are the primary cause of civilian deaths

[Kurmewal]

No one dies due to Taliban and no one dies because of Nato.

Everything comes from Allah and nothing happens without His will.

That is what I believe.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

very true Kurmewal, Allah (swt) sent NATO to Afghanistan to punish Pashtuns for not following Islam the proper way.

[Kurmewal]

very true Kurmewal, Allah (swt) sent NATO to Afghanistan to punish Pashtuns for not following Islam the proper way.

Whatever the reason, only He knows why.

[Shah-i-Kot]

very true Kurmewal, Allah (swt) sent NATO to Afghanistan to punish Pashtuns for not following Islam the proper way.

I pray you remain a depressed individual for the rest of your life.

And I pray to Allah(swt) that you never find happiness.

I curse you for the rest of your life

[faye]

ah. there it is. the famous lynx/unknown rant.