Should we support Taliban - Part 1

[laevanay]

I am surprised by the Talib supporter and the way he talks... filth supporting filth.... not an impressive example .....

[khushal]

The typical response of cowards. If you guys cant answer the questions, just stay silent because your revealing your own incompetence. Throwing insults isn't going to hide your incompetence, its revealing it.

[Tjanaparh]

When i read these endless discussions it seems Afghans need to reorganize and dissociate from any past movement. I am sure non of you, nor Khushal, nor Shahidullah,nor Laevanay want bad to your own people, try better to find a way to operate together to avoid all the past crimes and horror for the future.

What is more horrible than brothers killing eachother because of ideologies from outside, still it seems that all the movements were or are doing only that.

All the money of them go in the pockets of whom to by weapons and explosives?
And what could be done with all that money, work, wasted on the death.

[khushal]

^^Ive been trying to tell them that but their response is your a Taliban supporter.

The fact of the matter is that the Taliban are part of the society and even Karzai/Nato has accepted this. My question is how do you deal with them. They say push them out, bomb them, torture them which are all incompetent solutions by the way. But all that has been tried and it only resulted in the opposite of the intended result. They became stronger and spread to the north. The places where NATO is leaving is being filled up by the Taliban or other gangs.

What did people like DZJ, laevanay, and shahidullah accomplish by advising NATO to increase troops besides waste American and afghan lives not to mention billions spent on useless policy with no vision. The NA/afghan government are the biggest traitors to the afghan people because they wasted the chance of a lifetime. They wasted all the resources that could have been used to rebuild the country and help its people.

[Tjanaparh]

To me it seem that this attitude somehow has been comon in Afghanistan last decades, what is sure due to infuences from outside.
All af these movements, starting with comunists, taliban, northern alliance, karzai government in somehow had influences from outside. The simple person that joins them sure may have or pure motives or be desperated , that is why education is so needed. and specially it must be a real education, starting from an education on self conception.
I don't think Taliban were different in any way to the concept You tell about the NATO strategies. But an end must be found, because for now it is not an Afghan - Agressor war. It is killing brother-brother with influence from outside.

I think positive can be taken from everybody of these groups and ideas, the negative should be left.
What I say is sure a dream compared to what really happens, but if everybody what be able to leave being Talib, communist, pro NATO, so much could be done, by being Afghan and taking together all the good any group may have and leaving back all the bad, what is enough.

[DaZahroJaam.]

The typical response of cowards. If you guys cant answer the questions, just stay silent because your revealing your own incompetence. Throwing insults isn't going to hide your incompetence, its revealing it.

if competence and bravary is described as agreeing with everything that you say (whatever it might be) and believing in whatever that you believe in then may we always remain incompetent cowards.
good day to you, sir.

[khushal]

To me it seem that this attitude somehow has been comon in Afghanistan last decades, what is sure due to infuences from outside.
All af these movements, starting with comunists, taliban, northern alliance, karzai government in somehow had influences from outside. The simple person that joins them sure may have or pure motives or be desperated , that is why education is so needed. and specially it must be a real education, starting from an education on self conception.
I don't think Taliban were different in any way to the concept You tell about the NATO strategies. But an end must be found, because for now it is not an Afghan - Agressor war. It is killing brother-brother with influence from outside.

I think positive can be taken from everybody of these groups and ideas, the negative should be left.
What I say is sure a dream compared to what really happens, but if everybody what be able to leave being Talib, communist, pro NATO, so much could be done, by being Afghan and taking together all the good any group may have and leaving back all the bad, what is enough.

All civil wars are brother killing brother but the outsiders are prolonging the civil war. If they were ending it, that would be positive but the facts are different. Right now the country is run by corrupt thugs and they have no interest in peace. Warlords profit by making war. The US partnering up with thugs in afghanistan was a failed policy.

[khushal]

if competence and bravary is described as agreeing with everything that you say (whatever it might be) and believing in whatever that you believe in then may we always remain incompetent cowards.
good day to you, sir.

cowards tell others to fight their battles because they are too cowardly to fight it themselves. Incompetence is when you cant answer the questions.

[DaZahroJaam.]

THE REASON I AM NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION IS BECAUSE I HAVE ANSWERED THEM 10 TIMES BEFORE. IF COWARDLINESS IS HAVING OTHERS FIGHT YOUR BATTLES THEN WHAT THE **** DO YOU NEED ME TO SUPPORT TALIBAN FOR?? WHY ARE YOU NOT FIGHTING THAT BATTLE ON YOUR OWN?? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO CONVINCE OTHERS FOR???
i can't feel half of my face due to a very nasty migraine so if i were you, i would shut up and stop acting like a dumb ass for a change.
knowing you, that is very unlikely to happen so i am going to ignore you from now on and that is going to have to do with my lack of tolerance for bull**** and not the legitimacy of whatever it is that you are about to bull**** about.

[کیش]

THE REASON I AM NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION IS BECAUSE I HAVE ANSWERED THEM 10 TIMES BEFORE. IF COWARDLINESS IS HAVING OTHERS FIGHT YOUR BATTLES THEN WHAT THE **** DO YOU NEED ME TO SUPPORT TALIBAN FOR?? WHY ARE YOU NOT FIGHTING THAT BATTLE ON YOUR OWN?? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO CONVINCE OTHERS FOR???
i can't feel half of my face due to a very nasty migraine so if i were you, i would shut up and stop acting like a dumb ass for a change.
knowing you, that is very unlikely to happen so i am going to ignore you from now on and that is going to have to do with my lack of tolerance for bull**** and not the legitimacy of whatever it is that you are about to bull**** about.

Please don't raise your blood pressure; it could lead to a stroke or heart attack.

[khushal]

THE REASON I AM NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION IS BECAUSE I HAVE ANSWERED THEM 10 TIMES BEFORE. IF COWARDLINESS IS HAVING OTHERS FIGHT YOUR BATTLES THEN WHAT THE **** DO YOU NEED ME TO SUPPORT TALIBAN FOR?? WHY ARE YOU NOT FIGHTING THAT BATTLE ON YOUR OWN?? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO CONVINCE OTHERS FOR???
i can't feel half of my face due to a very nasty migraine so if i were you, i would shut up and stop acting like a dumb ass for a change.
knowing you, that is very unlikely to happen so i am going to ignore you from now on and that is going to have to do with my lack of tolerance for bull**** and not the legitimacy of whatever it is that you are about to bull**** about.

When did you answer it. You never answered it. You usually go on some blabbering nonsense and cower from the real issues. Answer the question and stop hiding with the Taliban supporter nonsense.

[DaZahroJaam.]

the last time i wasted my time over an argument with you was last summer at approximately 10:30am of either a Tuesday or a Wednesday. it was in that thread that you opened to whine about how the government was forcefully taking away the guns from the innocent civilians that had no other means of protecting themselves from thieves and murderers besides carrying guns and murdering each other.
it was either the second or third time i referred to your papa as a thief. i don't remember if i did it directly or indirectly though.

[Tjanaparh]

All civil wars are brother killing brother but the outsiders are prolonging the civil war. If they were ending it, that would be positive but the facts are different. Right now the country is run by corrupt thugs and they have no interest in peace. Warlords profit by making war. The US partnering up with thugs in afghanistan was a failed policy.

That is why I think all past forces have shown to lack of credibility and a change and reorganization is needed. What is the most difficult under these conditions.
Taliban are same well organized from somewhere, otherwise they would act differently i suppose. Perhaps the simple people who are used, are honest in their intentions, but for sure not in the upper part of Talibs. Same applied to the others.

[khushal]

the last time i wasted my time over an argument with you was last summer at approximately 10:30am of either a Tuesday or a Wednesday. it was in that thread that you opened to whine about how the government was forcefully taking away the guns from the innocent civilians that had no other means of protecting themselves from thieves and murderers besides carrying guns and murdering each other.
it was either the second or third time i referred to your papa as a thief. i don't remember if i did it directly or indirectly though.

same as usual blubbering. no intellect what so ever.

[laevanay]

same as usual blubbering. no intellect what so ever.

So its blubbering if someone else replies but what do you call the useless noise spew?