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  • The universe is a miracle...

    Because it came out of no where.

    Hallelujah, praise the lord!

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    Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 12-15-2011, 08:13 PM.
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
      Yahweh, the deity of the Jews, is a miracle...

      Because it came out of nowhere.

      Hallelujah, praise the lord!

      Ameen, when are you reverting?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
        Ameen, when are you reverting?
        I require one million dollaz.
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
          I require one million dollaz.
          Spoken like an atheist.


          sorry...

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          • #6
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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              • #8
                lol@atheists

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jasmine
                  I see what you did. They can use the same argument as well though.
                  Nope, because atheists don't believe in miracles, that requires faith.

                  0wned!

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                  • #10
                    Kun Fa Ya Kun

                    Saada musalman yam pa dagha pvohegam :p baqi kho big bang theory aao daz duz di aaorai kana :p
                    yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                    • #11
                      ^Da Big Bang tah bo Pukhto ke se wayo?

                      Da GHAT DAZ?

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                      • #12
                        The universe is a miracle regardless of how it was created and/or by whom.

                        And, as others have said, what a lame argument. Something becomes a miracle because it happened just like that? If so, what's wrong with that? And that makes God a miracle, too, since we know that God came out of nowhere. But so what if God is a miracle, right? Similarly, so what if the universe is a miracle? In other words, why is it okay for one thing to be a miracle but not for something else?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                          Nope, because atheists don't believe in miracles, that requires faith.

                          0wned!
                          Who told you that? They might not believe in a human being born without a father, or the sun pausing just to propitiate a group of people who didn't get to pray on time, but what DOES a miracle mean? If you think about it, it's just something that's not a norm or considered impossible by most people. Hence, having mangoes in winter could be a miracle for a lot of people, don't you think? Yet, we have mangoes and other fruits in all seasons in certain countries.

                          So, yeah, remember that the term "miracle" doesn't have a universal definition; many might agree on what it is, but never will all agree - and that makes your claim that "atheists don't believe in miracles" even more flawed.

                          P.S. "Owned"? In healthy intellectual discussions, mature and intelligent people don't use such words because they're not here to "own" the other interlocutors' arguments but rather to explain their stance and/or prove someone else wrong.
                          Last edited by Guest; 09-12-2010, 07:51 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Qrratugai,

                            Get off your high horse will ya? This is a general topic not meant to be taken seriously. This is why it's not in the religious section but here. Where is your sense of humor?

                            To be honest, this "click" mentality is a little too childish. Same people sticking up for each other, same people up tight over each other, same people thanking each other. Give it a rest. This is a discussion forum, lower your guns, take a deep breath. Relax homez.

                            I ain't your enemy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                              Same people sticking up for each other, same people up tight over each other, same people thanking each other. Give it a rest. This is a discussion forum, lower your guns, take a deep breath. Relax homez.

                              I ain't your enemy.
                              Dayem, well said.
                              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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