Indian gems and Pakistani rhetorical pearls

[Friends of Baloch]

These two paki Dravidians were trying to lie to people that there are loads of Sikhs in Iran that are fighting for a separate state from there against India, LOL.



Then the backlash from Iranians happened, lmao..





LOL @ that Dravidian paki still insisting that he is 'Iranian' and "having dual"

'Sardarji' was back too!

[maneatinglizard]

Removeddit

This conversation happened a few weeks back on the Afghan subreddit. A Paki tried to use their standard insults against Afghans (bacha bazi, namak haram, etc.), and when a Pashtun guy called him daal khor, he immediately defended himsef by claiming his mom was Hazara.

The is a perfect example of the lack of self-awareness of Paki nationalists. Dude literally tried to defend himself by claiming his mom belonged to a country he just claimed was full of smelly pedophiles. I wonder how his namak haram mom feels about her son's low testosterone and self-confidence.

Seems like every coversation between an Afghan and Indic Paki nationalist follows this script:

Paki: namak haram Afghan
Afghan: Shut up, daal khor
Paki: But meri Bhai, my grandmother was beautiful blond Afghan. We're related isn't it?

[Traveller]

Removeddit

This conversion happened a few weeks back on the Afghan subreddit. A Paki tried to use their standard insults against Afghans (bacha bazi, namak haram, etc.), and when a Pashtun guy called him daal khor, he immediately defended himsef by claiming his mom was Hazara.

The is a perfect example of the lack of self-awareness of Paki nationalists. Dude literally tried to defend himself by claiming his mom belonged to a country he just claimed was full of smelly pedophiles. I wonder how his namak haram mom feels about her son's low testosterone and self-confidence.

Seems like every coversation between an Afghan and Indic Paki nationalist follows this script:

Paki: namak haram Afghan
Afghan: Shut up, daal khor
Paki: But meri Bhai, my grandmother was beautiful blond Afghan. We're related isn't it?

I've interacted with that guy on reddit. The way he treats me and other Pakistani Pashtuns is very strange and two-faced. On the one hand he does this whole "Pakistani brotherhood" thing with us but then when we call him out on his racist comments toward our Afghan brethren he gets upset and starts pushing us to insult Afghans in the name of "Pakistaniyat." I think he also used to support the killing of all languages other than Urdu in Pakistan for national unity.

[maneatinglizard]

I've interacted with that guy on reddit. The way he treats me and other Pakistani Pashtuns is very strange and two-faced. On the one hand he does this whole "Pakistani brotherhood" thing with us but then when we call him out on his racist comments toward our Afghan brethren he gets upset and starts pushing us to insult Afghans in the name of "Pakistaniyat." I think he also used to support the killing of all languages other than Urdu in Pakistan for national unity.

He claims to be Rajput/Hazara, so he's probably a Muhajir, which would explain the Urdu supremacy.

The mentality of these hardcore Pakistani nationalist types is very confused and contradictory. He bashes the concept of the Muslim Ummah, saying all that matters is being a Pakistani while failing to realize that the only reason Pakistan exists in the first place is the Muslim Ummah. What they want (and this also relates to wanting Urdu to replace all the native languages, as well as the formulation of the phony "Mughal" identity that Pakistanis love to talk about) is for a national identity and culture to completely replace all the traditional identities and cultures of Pakistani people. They fear that Pakistan will not stay united as long as people hold onto their identities (and many of them hate Islam and wish it wasn't what defines their identity), and most of these people are urban losers who lack a cohesive identity outside of being a Pakistani. Without Pakistan, they'd be nothing, and so they want all Pakistanis to be nothing but Pakistanis as well.

[Firdousi]

Pakistan is a culturally confused country. It was founded as antithesis of India. So in order to justify its own existence has created a fake history. So Pakistanis want to distance themselves from their desi cousins across the border. In order to do so they try to relate themselves with non desi Muslims from Central Asia or the Middle East.

But you know guys, reality is a b*tch. When Pakis come across an Afghan, Iranian or Turk and realize that those people don't give a s*it about them, it drives them crazy. Cognitive dissonance gets out of control. They want badly to be like us but we don't accept them as our equals. So its a sort of confusing love and hate mix.

This kind of mentality will never stop because the day it stops, Pakistan will cease to exist. Pakistan claims to be the heir of the Islamic invaders heritage. This makes sense to some degree but in general despite all the foreign influence Pakis are just Indian Muslims. And they should be proud of it.

[Friends of Baloch]

Pakistan is a culturally confused country. It was founded as antithesis of India. So in order to justify its own existence has created a fake history. So Pakistanis want to distance themselves from their desi cousins across the border. In order to do so they try to relate themselves with non desi Muslims from Central Asia or the Middle East.

It is actually much deeper rooted than that and goes back to before Pakiland was even invented. There are accounts and observations going back much further in history from foreign travellers to British colonial officers of Indian Muslims inventing fictious ancestral lineages to Persia, Central Asia and Arabia. The plain truth of why that is so is because the vast majority of Paki/Indian Muslims are converted from the lower "castes" of Hindu society yet on their conversion, were still treated as "low castes" by both Hindus and their foreign Muslim rulers alike. Deep down all pakis know this is who their ancestors really were.

Insulting commentary about Paki/Indian looks, dark skin, way of life etc and negative stereotypes expressed in Persian poetry and memoirs by Turko-Persian elites and travellers in India are also humiliations that the Pakis/Indians, particularly in the northwest of India aka Pakiland, had to endure for centuries.

And it is not just Pakis / Indic Muslims who fabricate foreign lineages and connections to foreign races and cultures. Hindus and Sikhs from northwest India, mainly Punjab and Sindh, do that too. Particularly communities like the 'Jats'. Even Hindus from that community tell lies that they are not really 'Indian' but are descendants of some 'Scythian' invader or sh!t like that. They say this because they are deeply embarrassed of who and what they really are, "low caste" Hindus that spawned the gypsies, have no appreciable cultural contributions or history, and were routinely beaten, persecuted, enslaved and humiliated by 'light skinned' foreigners. Jats are one of the main / largest communities that Punjabis belong to.

That Sikh posting all that nonsense is an example that this isnt a modern Paki thing. He is just one of many Sikhs i've seen trying to draw connections between Bundjabis and Persians, because Bundjabis know that their Dalit culture pales in comparison to the achievements of Central Asian and Iranian cultures and histories, which the Bundjabi only had a glimpse of through the lens of the conquered looking up at his superiors.

Pakis have tried to adopt many things from their former masters and are a deeply psychologically colonized people. Why is it when you read Indian history is Persian ALWAYS referred to as the "high culture"? What the is "high culture" and what does that say about how Pakis/Indians feel about their own native cultures?

The self-loathing of Punjabis is very deep rooted, as is the toxic mixture of their fetishization, envy, lust and inferiority complex towards 'Persians' and 'Central Asians', and other remote foreign races like Arabs and even Greeks too that a Punjabi would go so far as trying to relate himself and his pathetic Dalit history of defeat and servitude to.

[Firdousi]

It is actually much deeper rooted than that and goes back to before Pakiland was even invented. There are accounts and observations going back much further in history from foreign travellers to British colonial officers of Indian Muslims inventing fictious ancestral lineages to Persia, Central Asia and Arabia. The plain truth of why that is so is because the vast majority of Paki/Indian Muslims are converted from the lower "castes" of Hindu society yet on their conversion, were still treated as "low castes" by both Hindus and their foreign Muslim rulers alike. Deep down all pakis know this is who their ancestors really were.

Insulting commentary about Paki/Indian looks, dark skin, way of life etc and negative stereotypes expressed in Persian poetry and memoirs by Turko-Persian elites and travellers in India are also humiliations that the Pakis/Indians, particularly in the northwest of India aka Pakiland, had to endure for centuries.

And it is not just Pakis / Indic Muslims who fabricate foreign lineages and connections to foreign races and cultures. Hindus and Sikhs from northwest India, mainly Punjab and Sindh, do that too. Particularly communities like the 'Jats'. Even Hindus from that community tell lies that they are not really 'Indian' but are descendants of some 'Scythian' invader or sh!t like that. They say this because they are deeply embarrassed of who and what they really are, "low caste" Hindus that spawned the gypsies, have no appreciable cultural contributions or history, and were routinely beaten, persecuted, enslaved and humiliated by 'light skinned' foreigners. Jats are one of the main / largest communities that Punjabis belong to.

That Sikh posting all that nonsense is an example that this isnt a modern Paki thing. He is just one of many Sikhs i've seen trying to draw connections between Bundjabis and Persians, because Bundjabis know that their Dalit culture pales in comparison to the achievements of Central Asian and Iranian cultures and histories, which the Bundjabi only had a glimpse of through the lens of the conquered looking up at his superiors.

Pakis have tried to adopt many things from their former masters and are a deeply psychologically colonized people. Why is it when you read Indian history is Persian ALWAYS referred to as the "high culture"? What the is "high culture" and what does that say about how Pakis/Indians feel about their own native cultures?

The self-loathing of Punjabis is very deep rooted, as is the toxic mixture of their fetishization, envy, lust and inferiority complex towards 'Persians' and 'Central Asians', and other remote foreign races like Arabs and even Greeks too that a Punjabi would go so far as trying to relate himself and his pathetic Dalit history of defeat and servitude to.

Good points, but I read several times that actually most of Muslim converts in India were not Dalits but rather upper class.

Anyway I believe this has also a lot to do with Pakistani inferiority complex. Centuries of foreign invasions and especially the caste mentality: not even Islam could remove the that mentality from desis. Islam is an egalitarian faith but still that mentality remained.

You know Spanish people use to say that "la mentalidad servil, una vez adquirida, es difícil de erradicar". Servile mentality, once adopted, is hard to eradicate. Inferiority complex its just part of the Desi psyche.

[Friends of Baloch]

Good points, but I read several times that actually most of Muslim converts in India were not Dalits but rather upper class.

If we're taking about Pakiland then no, they are almost entirely converted from the "shudras" and "Dalits". The same is true for pretty much everywhere else in South Asia. Punjab has always had the highest concentration of "low castes" and "Dalits" in Indian history, even today. In fact, the British made 'Punjab province' did not even become a Muslim majority until the early 20th century according to the British India census of 1911. Large numbers of Hindu 'low castes' in Punjab were still converting to Islam right up until the 1940s. Most Bundjabis belong to 'low caste' Hindu communities like the Jats, Awans, Chuhras, Kanjars, Cheemas, Gujjars, Arains and so on. This is who most pakis really are.

Another fact is that 'high caste' Hindus in north India often collaborated with their foreign Muslim rulers while still retaining their 'Hinduism', especially with the Mughals post-Babur. Hindu women even mothered both Janangir and Shah Jahan, and neither of those women converted to Islam despite being the mothers of a Muslim dynasty.

It's also pretty obvious from decrepit situation and discrimination of Indic Muslims by both Hindus and the foreign Muslim rulers that the overwhelming majority of them were converted from the lower rungs of Hindu society. And im not talking about modern Indian society, im talking about the historic contempt and decrepitness that most Indic Muslims have always faced from both their Hindu kin and foreign ruler alike.

[a.s.takhar]

If we're taking about Pakiland then no, they are almost entirely converted from the "shudras" and "Dalits". The same is true for pretty much everywhere else in South Asia. Punjab has always had the highest concentration of "low castes" and "Dalits" in Indian history, even today. In fact, the British made 'Punjab province' did not even become a Muslim majority until the early 20th century according to the British India census of 1911. Large numbers of Hindu 'low castes' in Punjab were still converting to Islam right up until the 1940s. Most Bundjabis belong to 'low caste' Hindu communities like the Jats, Awans, Chuhras, Kanjars, Cheemas, Gujjars, Arains and so on. This is who most pakis really are.

Another fact is that 'high caste' Hindus in north India often collaborated with their foreign Muslim rulers while still retaining their 'Hinduism', especially with the Mughals post-Babur. Hindu women even mothered both Janangir and Shah Jahan, and neither of those women converted to Islam despite being the mothers of a Muslim dynasty.

It's also pretty obvious from decrepit situation and discrimination of Indic Muslims by both Hindus and the foreign Muslim rulers that the overwhelming majority of them were converted from the lower rungs of Hindu society. And im not talking about modern Indian society, im talking about the historic contempt and decrepitness that most Indic Muslims have always faced from both their Hindu kin and foreign ruler alike.

You sure are as dum as a dodo.

"high caste" Hindus in north India cant stand in front of a Jat, Gujjar or Arain and rest of us. They are much below us. Also there are many Rajput Muslims in Punjab, in fact 80% of all Punjabi Rajputs became Muslims. Are they a low caste? GTFO you dumb dodo.

We look down on those "high caste" Hindus in north India. Who are they anyway? Show me one of those "high caste " Hindus of north India?

And who are you anyway? Didnt your own ancestors become Muslim? According to you then those "high caste" Hindus of north India are much superior to you and your ancestors because your ancestors became Muslims whilst those "high caste" reatined their Hinduism.

and stop lying those women mothers of Shah jahan and Jahangir became Muslims. Plus whats that got to with a fake make-belief mleccha Baloch like you?

Ps this will also trigger Iblis-Efreakzai to post something.

[Friends of Baloch]

This is one of the best paki fairy tales yet!

"A factual presentation of a connection between the Jutes tribe of Jutland (Germany and Denmark) and the Jats tribe of India." <- - - -

Also there are many Rajput Muslims in Punjab, in fact 80% of all Punjabi Rajputs

LOL.

[Azmal]

From that Ahmad Shah Baba thread:



Man these people are dumb. How can they possibly be so oblivious to reality?

And what’s with them always referring to Pashtuns as “Pakhtun” or “Pathan”? Is that just another dumb attempt at trying to make lar and bar Pashtuns separate races?

These folks are not dumb, this is calculated...the issue in here is lack of identity, the Pathan want to fake an identity in order to justify their servitude to Desi Punjabi. The good news is these posts proves that deep down these Pathan of Pakistan are not happy being dog of those people that Afghan ruled for century. .

[Elias]

This is one of the best paki fairy tales yet!

"A factual presentation of a connection between the Jutes tribe of Jutland (Germany and Denmark) and the Jats tribe of India." <- - - -





LOL.

Lol
But there are Europeans who are connected to Pakistanis/Indians. Unfortunately they don't fit in their "my grandmother had blue eyes" Utopia and therefore they never mention the ethnic link. Here they are
Stolipinovo - The Roma Gypsy district in Plovdiv, Bulgaria - YouTube

[Elias]

Never understood why Indics have to exaggerate and turn every moment of their life into a drama/tragedy.

DAUR CITY .TUBE LIGHT DANCE Mubarak Ho Tumko Ye shadi Tumhari. - YouTube

[Elias]

"Make Pakistan white again"
Is Pakistan &#39;obsessed&#39; with fair skin? BBC News - YouTube

[jama0112]

According to what i have observed on anthroforums(such as theapricity), gypsies really aren't considered much as europeans, despite huge european admixture and them being christian most of the time.

So, that's not making them closer to europans.

But i'm glad the thumbnail in the video shows the country i'm living in.