what do you think about this person?

[Samandri]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-hypocrisy-of-afghan-people-towards-pakistan.485027/

I can tell the guy is telling the truth because that's exactly how Afghan refugees have acquired illegal citizenship of Pakistan, and that's how they behave when you interact with them......but note the title of thread by the Pakistani "The hypcrist of Afghan people"......the mofo was very cooperative and ready to commit fraud and crime to help his Afghan friend Ali.....but when he heard a salty comment of Afghan refugee about Pakistan related to tommatoes, he switched and is ready to report him to authorities and is asking members about the procedure .....and is declaring Afghans hypocrites........he is not realizing his own hypicricy and wrong.......he was fully ready to commit fraud and crime for his friend,......and then over a trivivial disagreement over opinions, his brotherhood evaporated.....the bitterness of Afghan refugee is understandable as he is in ****ed up situation, the haramkhor Paki wa expecting him to bow down to him in gratitude and sing jeevay jeevay Pakistan.....the fraudster kharkus did not appreciate the attitude of Afghan refugee so now he is delivering a long speech , placing himself on high moral ground , acting all saintly........

[HindustanTimes]

A friend who worked in military in Afghanistan prior to 9-11, told me Pakistani officials, offered him and others money, to destroy certain important public properties...I don't know if its true, but something along the destructionof Buddhas of Bamiyan...it's well known Pakistan backed taliban as well, so there that.

[HindustanTimes]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-h...kistan.485027/

I can tell the guy is telling the truth because that's exactly how Afghan refugees have acquired illegal citizenship of Pakistan, and that's how they behave when you interact with them......but note the title of thread by the Pakistani "The hypcrist of Afghan people"......the mofo was very cooperative and ready to commit fraud and crime to help his Afghan friend Ali.....but when he heard a salty comment of Afghan refugee about Pakistan related to tommatoes, he switched and is ready to report him to authorities and is asking members about the procedure .....and is declaring Afghans hypocrites........he is not realizing his own hypicricy and wrong.......he was fully ready to commit fraud and crime for his friend,......and then over a trivivial disagreement over opinions, his brotherhood evaporated.....the bitterness of Afghan refugee is understandable as he is in ****ed up situation, the haramkhor Paki wa expecting him to bow down to him in gratitude and sing jeevay jeevay Pakistan.....the fraudster kharkus did not appreciate the attitude of Afghan refugee so now he is delivering a long speech , placing himself on high moral ground , acting all saintly........

Most Pakis must have the educational level of a parrot..I am not surprised one bit...

look at these comments...these fools hating their own ethnic brothers across the durand line, licking their Panzabi master's ass...

Punjabi And Pathan Very Funny About Durrand Line 211 - YouTube

[toughpashtun]

[MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION] , khalko pa meyanz ke jagara walay joray?
You of course have the freedom to post anything you like, but come on , you know how this is going to end up.Do you think anyone here will think good about the person you asked them about? Of course not.
It will turn to a Pakistan bashing thread.Our people do the same on defense.pk against Afghans.What's the point?

[Nekrofrost]

Typical patriot. Guys like this deserve to get curb stomped. He is one big ******* cuz he would end his friendship with this guy just because of his hate for a country thats trated him like ****. Guys like this are pure ****.

[ZarakDurrani606]

[MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION] , khalko pa meyanz ke jagara walay joray?
You of course have the freedom to post anything you like, but come on , you know how this is going to end up.Do you think anyone here will think good about the person you asked them about? Of course not.
It will turn to a Pakistan bashing thread.Our people do the same on defense.pk against Afghans.What's the point?

No wrora, with all due respect, i'm going to have to diasgree with you on certain pertinent points. You said that op was instigating a fight between us. Us as in whom? Pashtuns vs Pashtuns right? Whether they be in afghanistan or pakistan, they're the same blood at the the end of the day, right? I think the purpose of this forum is to bridge this divide between our people who are divided by that line. Yet, you talk of instigating fights as if it were between people that were not related at all. I live in pakistan too, i'm from Charsadda but i and countless Pashtuns i know have never differentiated between Pashtuns on this side and those on the other. By saying "my people bashing you guys on pk defence" just what are you trying to imply. Defence pk does'nt represent Pashtuns. I"ll put it plainly for you, talks like these "us vs. Them" or "my people vs their people" are surely going to be the death of us. You may choose pakistan's side but remember, integration within pakistan's desi mainstream society will wipe out the last vestiges of the Pashtun in you. I"ll reiterate, its no "us and them" where Pashtuns are concerned..... please stop this profiling (pakistani state narrative)

[Traveller]

No wrora, with all due respect, i'm going to have to diasgree with you on certain pertinent points. You said that op was instigating a fight between us. Us as in whom? Pashtuns vs Pashtuns right? Whether they be in afghanistan or pakistan, they're the same blood at the the end of the day, right? I think the purpose of this forum is to bridge this divide between our people who are divided by that line. Yet, you talk of instigating fights as if it were between people that were not related at all. I live in pakistan too, i'm from Charsadda but i and countless Pashtuns i know have never differentiated between Pashtuns on this side and those on the other. By saying "my people bashing you guys on pk defence" just what are you trying to imply. Defence pk does'nt represent Pashtuns. I"ll put it plainly for you, talks like these "us vs. Them" or "my people vs their people" are surely going to be the death of us. You may choose pakistan's side but remember, integration within pakistan's desi mainstream society will wipe out the last vestiges of the Pashtun in you. I"ll reiterate, its no "us and them" where Pashtuns are concerned..... please stop this profiling (pakistani state narrative)

We are the same people but one people may have various sub groups within them. In fact we Pashtuns have always had divisions like this in the form of tribes. Today you could say that different nationalities are like tribal divisions.

[ZarakDurrani606]

Just clicked the link and skimmed over the whole affair. Op sounds like a typical brainwashed pseudopashtun.... desi. "Us pakistanis are soft hearted... sure.... our population grew from 40 million to 200 million (desis) .... us pakistanis like biryani, polao, curry... (he forgot to mention dahl)". Used rudimentary (and comical) narrative "he replied with an evil smile", like what were you trying to imply oh most pure pashtun of pakistan. Was he trying to score a couple points, maybe buy the approval of the desis? And then i read the replies "typical afghani" "you're too soft-hearted". What a load of crap. The hypocritic *******. It IS not us vs them! We're the same freaking people. It is unbelievable how beghairat a person would call themselves Pashtuns. Stop staining our collective identity, pakistani patriots should call themselves just that. ****ing desiwarriors

[ZarakDurrani606]

We are the same people but one people may have various sub groups within them. In fact we Pashtuns have always had divisions like this in the form of tribes. Today you could say that different nationalities are like tribal divisions.

Yes..... but that's what we are trying to avoid. This sense of division (we're different cuz we live in a different country) is what we're tryinf to efface from the mentality of the Pashtuns on either sides of the line. Mind you, if these problems are'nt curbed soon... we"ll simply cease to exist as an identity. This sort of talk is becoming all too prevalent. The pakistani establishment is all out to stomp at the Pashtuns by marring their identity.. how? Well you might have heard what happened in lahore, in a university, Pashtuns students performing Attan and celebrating Nowruz when they were savaged by jammat islami members and the police. On the other hand, Pashtuns in pakistan are actively made to believe that Pashtuns in Afghan are treacherous and vile and "not of you".... like wth? The media here fetishes poor pashtuns like " arshad khan" the chai kharsol agha yet deport his brethren by the truckloads. Oh and lets not forget the debacle in punjab, all those notices (nazi style).

[logical]

Why anyone have to ask first to report criminals? Where is written that Pakistanis have to show big hearts? Millions of afghanis have illegal CNIC and are involved in anti-state activities. They most be reported and arrested.

[logical]

No wrora, with all due respect, i'm going to have to diasgree with you on certain pertinent points. You said that op was instigating a fight between us. Us as in whom? Pashtuns vs Pashtuns right? Whether they be in afghanistan or pakistan, they're the same blood at the the end of the day, right? I think the purpose of this forum is to bridge this divide between our people who are divided by that line. Yet, you talk of instigating fights as if it were between people that were not related at all. I live in pakistan too, i'm from Charsadda but i and countless Pashtuns i know have never differentiated between Pashtuns on this side and those on the other. By saying "my people bashing you guys on pk defence" just what are you trying to imply. Defence pk does'nt represent Pashtuns. I"ll put it plainly for you, talks like these "us vs. Them" or "my people vs their people" are surely going to be the death of us. You may choose pakistan's side but remember, integration within pakistan's desi mainstream society will wipe out the last vestiges of the Pashtun in you. I"ll reiterate, its no "us and them" where Pashtuns are concerned..... please stop this profiling (pakistani state narrative)

Just remember illegal CNIC doesn't make you Pakistani, be prepared to go back by end of 2017.

[toughpashtun]

No wrora, with all due respect, i'm going to have to diasgree with you on certain pertinent points. You said that op was instigating a fight between us. Us as in whom? Pashtuns vs Pashtuns right? Whether they be in afghanistan or pakistan, they're the same blood at the the end of the day, right? I think the purpose of this forum is to bridge this divide between our people who are divided by that line. Yet, you talk of instigating fights as if it were between people that were not related at all. I live in pakistan too, i'm from Charsadda but i and countless Pashtuns i know have never differentiated between Pashtuns on this side and those on the other. By saying "my people bashing you guys on pk defence" just what are you trying to imply. Defence pk does'nt represent Pashtuns. I"ll put it plainly for you, talks like these "us vs. Them" or "my people vs their people" are surely going to be the death of us. You may choose pakistan's side but remember, integration within pakistan's desi mainstream society will wipe out the last vestiges of the Pashtun in you. I"ll reiterate, its no "us and them" where Pashtuns are concerned..... please stop this profiling (pakistani state narrative)

Grana , you did not comprehend my point correctly.I will explain.
First of all , you are right that all Pashtuns are one.But in the current environment , all Pashtuns(save a few) do associate themselves with either Afghanistan or Pakistan.That is why I use the terms Afghan and Pakistani.

1)I never said that the purpose of OP was to cause a fight. I meant that when such material is posted , then the people on this forum(most of whom are Afghans) will start bashing Pakistan , and they also direct their insults towards Pakistani Pashtuns too.Then we have some Pakistani Pashtuns here on this forum who will respond in a similar manner and you know where that leads to.

2)you misquoted me. i did not say ' my people bashing you guys on pk defence'. I wrote 'our people ' by which I meant Pakistanis,since I am a Pakistani Pashtun.My point was that if Afghans say anti-Pak stuff here on this forum, so similarly the Pakis do the same on Pak defense. and those Pakis include Pashtuns as well.And I am not in favour of Pak-Afghan fights.
Pak defense is not representative of Pashtuns , but fact is that there are many Pashtuns over there who are even more 'Pakistani' than other Pakistanis.And they do not spare a chance to attack Afghans.

3) All Pashtuns are one blood, be they east or west of the Durand.The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Pashtuns have not had as much hatred for each other in history ,as they do today.Which is sad , very sad.

As for myself , well let me tell you that , I despite being a Pakistani, have an intense love and respect and oneness with Pashtuns across the border.
I consider them my brothers.
Our Afghan brethren have suffered a lot in the past 35-40 years due to wars , and all the time that they sought refuge in Pakistan I honestly felt honoured to have them here.There was a good environment between Pakistanis and the Afghan muhajireen for the most part.
It pains me that in the past year or two , the Pakistani government is forcing out the Afghans as they are blamed for terrorism and what not.This is not the right way to pour water over the goodwill we have had between the common Afghan and common Pakistani.
It gave me great joy to see how Afghans were free to go anywhere within Pakistan and they were largely not treated as foreigners.

[Elite Pakhtun]

The guy seemed more irate at his perception of Afghan hostility, and he wanted to throw it on the shopkeeper. Given that he frequents PDF, it's probably a no-brainer that he's been exposed by online Afghans that hate Pakistan.

Having said that, I feel bad for the shopkeeper, and there's no need to report him... but he must've known he was going to be pushing buttons. Then again, the OP at PDF is a bit of an idiot for engaging in political talk with shopkeepers (be they Afghan, Punjabi, Mohajir, etc). There's only so much a shop keeper will know. I can not say I side with the shopkeeper on this. He's dependent on Pakistan, doesn't want to leave, yet would harbor animosity towards the country. Granted, he's probably just pissed because he's concerned about his situation etc. He's probably just lashing out...

Helping him made sense. He judged that person irrespective of his ethnicity. Nothing wrong with that.

[Pakistan]

Grana , you did not comprehend my point correctly.I will explain.
First of all , you are right that all Pashtuns are one.But in the current environment , all Pashtuns(save a few) do associate themselves with either Afghanistan or Pakistan.That is why I use the terms Afghan and Pakistani.

1)I never said that the purpose of OP was to cause a fight. I meant that when such material is posted , then the people on this forum(most of whom are Afghans) will start bashing Pakistan , and they also direct their insults towards Pakistani Pashtuns too.Then we have some Pakistani Pashtuns here on this forum who will respond in a similar manner and you know where that leads to.

2)you misquoted me. i did not say ' my people bashing you guys on pk defence'. I wrote 'our people ' by which I meant Pakistanis,since I am a Pakistani Pashtun.My point was that if Afghans say anti-Pak stuff here on this forum, so similarly the Pakis do the same on Pak defense. and those Pakis include Pashtuns as well.And I am not in favour of Pak-Afghan fights.
Pak defense is not representative of Pashtuns , but fact is that there are many Pashtuns over there who are even more 'Pakistani' than other Pakistanis.And they do not spare a chance to attack Afghans.

3) All Pashtuns are one blood, be they east or west of the Durand.The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Pashtuns have not had as much hatred for each other in history ,as they do today.Which is sad , very sad.

As for myself , well let me tell you that , I despite being a Pakistani, have an intense love and respect and oneness with Pashtuns across the border.
I consider them my brothers.
Our Afghan brethren have suffered a lot in the past 35-40 years due to wars , and all the time that they sought refuge in Pakistan I honestly felt honoured to have them here.There was a good environment between Pakistanis and the Afghan muhajireen for the most part.
It pains me that in the past year or two , the Pakistani government is forcing out the Afghans as they are blamed for terrorism and what not.This is not the right way to pour water over the goodwill we have had between the common Afghan and common Pakistani.
It gave me great joy to see how Afghans were free to go anywhere within Pakistan and they were largely not treated as foreigners.

You are in a minority . Go out in KP and ask about afghans from Pashtuns of KP and you will know how they feel . The biggest anti - Afghan these days are the Pashtuns from KP themselves . Its a no brainer why . If they love us so much what are they doing involve in Kidnappings and Extortion inside Peshawar ?

[Traveller]

You must are in the minority . Go out in KP and ask about afghans from Pashtuns of KP and you will know how they feel . The biggest anti - Afghan these days are the Pashtuns from KP themselves . Its a no brainer why . If they love us so much what are they doing involve in Kidnappings and Extortion inside Peshawar ?

Ah, I see now. You hate Afghans because as a child you were kidnapped by one and you still haven't recovered from the trauma.