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  • #46
    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
    i have a problem with the devoting myself to a faith that can not provide me with the answers to the questions i ask. the other part of your post is still circling around the notions i addressed in my second reply to you.
    why should i be mocking God? you can question my faith in God but i can't question your reasons?
    I never said that.

    My concern is that this topic is not something devoted Muslim girls who follow what is prescribed by the Quran should worry about.

    The best of the women Hadhrat Mariam and Hadhrat Aisha suffered, they did not respond back.

    Why is this topic about how to respond back to indecent men? You should not respond to them.Period. Report them to the authorities.
    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Jasmine
      Momin I dont think you understand what we go through. I live in a neighborhood full of Hispanics, I have to witness this at least once a month.
      well move to a better place

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jasmine
        Momin I dont think you understand what we go through. I live in a neighborhood full of Hispanics, I have to witness this at least once a month.
        Are you covered?

        That is:

        Do you wear hijab?
        Do you wear tight clothes?
        Do you have make up on?
        Do you shoes make sounds?
        Do look serious when you walk by them?
        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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        • #49
          Do you have make up?
          Do you wear tight clothes?

          These all affect it.
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Jasmine
            Is your kanzal library good?
            Lol...it sucks because I don't practice it and I don't practice it because random guys do not approach me with their "I lub yo!" but I still know those decent ones like Khar, spay, kootray, etc.. This one time that random guy in my university passed a Janemann/ dilruba type comment, I beat him with the my "The Cell" book straight on his head.Oh! Me and my friends also beat this guy who spit on my friend face for no reason in our university..later on, the guys of our class also went to beat him too.He then apologized and became my friend's brother (He could not never be my brother, huh!). I am not the type of girl who would just ignore a guy's indecent comment and walk away without saying/doing anything.
            I just can't bear any harm to my self-respect.
            "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
            "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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            • #51
              Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
              I never said that.

              My concern is that this topic is not something devoted Muslim girls who follow what is prescribed by the Quran should worry about.

              The best of the women Hadhrat Mariam and Hadhrat Aisha suffered, they did not respond back.

              Why is this topic about how to respond back to indecent men? You should not respond to them.Period. Report them to the authorities.

              i am sorry, what authorities?
              i should not complain about being abused for walking down the street or i
              should tiptoe around just to avoid him as to not provoke him further? because doing so makes me less pious than otherwise? I WILL PASS ON THAT TYPE OF DIVINITY.

              proper muslim women who follow islamic ways don't get abused by the men in society because they are good at suffering and not provoking men further as islamic ways apparently suggest. PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH REALITY.

              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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              • #52
                Jasmine khore jana,

                these are some verse where Allah is guiding us how to conduct ourselves so that we come across as dignified. This is only with respect to speech:

                [17:37] And walk not in the earth haughtily, for thou canst not rend the earth, nor canst thou reach the mountains in height.

                [25:63] And the servants of the Gracious God are those who walk on the earth in a dignified manner, and when the ignorant address them, they say, ‘Peace!’

                [31:18] ‘And turn not thy cheek away from men in pride nor walk in the earth haughtily; Surely, Allah loves not any arrogant boaster.

                [28:55] And when they hear vain talk, they turn away from it and say, ‘Unto us our works and unto you your works. Peace be to you. We seek not the ignorant.’
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
                  i am sorry, what authorities?
                  i should not complain about being abused for walking down the street or i
                  should tiptoe around just to avoid him as to not provoke him further? because doing so makes me less pious than otherwise? I WILL PASS ON THAT TYPE OF DIVINITY.

                  proper muslim women who follow islamic ways don't get abused by the men in society because they are good at suffering and not provoking men further as islamic ways apparently suggest. PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH REALITY.

                  I am with reality.

                  Those sisters who have bunch of make up and who wear tight clothing have always be harassed. They don't follow proper Islamic injunctions.
                  Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 08-08-2010, 10:00 PM.
                  Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                  [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                  [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                    I am with reality.

                    Those sisters who have bunch of make up and who wear tight clothing have always be harassed. They don't follow proper Islamic injunctions.

                    are you suggesting i wear too much make up or tight clothing? what do you know about such "sisters"?

                    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                    • #55
                      Jasmine khore, after following what is prescribed as proper attire for women, one has to also clear one's mind of arrogance and flattery and one's speech from filth.

                      These things add to how men react, believe it or not.

                      Allah knows our characteristics best.
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post

                        are you suggesting i wear too much make up or tight clothing? what do you know about such "sisters"?
                        I am not suggesting anything. You know yourself best.
                        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Jasmine
                          No make up.
                          Not tight.
                          As Master Khan has suggested then move.

                          This is also a commandment of Allah. One should migrate if one cannot live a dignified life where one resides.
                          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                            I am not suggesting anything. You know yourself best.
                            booo

                            I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                            non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Jasmine
                              This isnt limited to one neighborhood Momin.
                              Of course not! But it is not found in EVERY neighborhood.

                              Where there is a will there is a way.

                              If you really want to be free from these perverts and to follow the commandments of Allah, then move, as He has also suggested.
                              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                              • #60
                                It is interesting how in order to prevent such disrespect only a change in the behavior of us women is suggested. You don't see brothers preaching to men about how they should refrain from doing whatever it is they're doing - no. "Women, stop wearing make up, stop wearing clothes that fit you, hide yourselves in curtains, move away into a place where there is no men." While "men just will be men".

                                And I agree, many women are very seductive in the way they dress etc - but I have seen this happen to the most pious and covered girls. It is not a one way street.. the girl can't go running and hiding when there is nothing done on the men's side. In that case, no matter how much he runs and hides and under how many curtains she hides herself - she will still be found and disrespected.

                                Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                                Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                                Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                                .

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