Originally posted by Shapur
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Do you consider people like Reham Khan (Imran Khan's ex wife) Pashtun
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What are the choices she made in the past?
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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There are 2 ways to be Pashtun.
1. belonging to a Pashtun tribe yet not speaking Pashto (typically tracing your father's father's father's line ...)
2. Speaking Pashto as your primary language.
There are millions of Persians, Non-Pashto speaking Pakistnais and Indians that claim to be Pashtun by the first definition. Most People who speak Pashto belong to a Pashtun tribe. The very few Pashto speakers that do not belong to a Pashtun tribe would be Qizilbash(an Azerbaijani turkic tribe that invaded Afghanistan when Iran became a Shia muslim country and started to invade Pashtun lands) or Sikhs (when Sikhs invaded Pashtun lands) that come from another tribe but have adopted Pashto as their first language.
Reham Khan is Hindkowan. 30-25% of Hindkowan people belong to a Pashtun tribe. The rest of the hindkowans are not Pashtun because they are Gujjar, Tarkhan, Mughal, Turk, Syeed, Qureshi, Awan, Cheema, Ghakhar, Jat, or any other tribe that isn't a Pashutn tribe....
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so by your definition,80%+ of Pakistnai Pashtuns are not Pashtuns?Originally posted by DSM0305 View PostYou're a Pashtun, when you yourself consider yourself a Pashtun first. Everything else is rubbish and hold zero ground. It is all about identity; one should identify himself as pashtun, to be considered a Pashtun.
Bloodline, language, culture, none matters. The only thing that matters is that you proudly identify yourself as Pashtun.
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80% of Punjabis are Rajput, Aryan, and that kind of stuffOriginally posted by Sarbani View PostIf "Pathans" in India are Pashtun, then Punjabis are Arabs.
I mean, 5% of Punjabis actually claim to be Arab and even some Pashtuns have went to punjab, lost their culture and became Punjabis with Pathan ancestry.
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Yusufzais in Rawalpindi? You mean from India Mohajir community or directly from KPK? cause i know Rohillas that have migrated to Islamabad-Pindi region after the India-Pak Partition.Originally posted by Barakzai Supply View PostWhoever can speak Pashto is Pashtun. Even if your parents are Pashtun but you can't speak Pashto then I don't consider you Pashtun.
Peshawari Sikhs are more Pashtun then a Yusafzai settled in Rawalpindi who can't speak Pashto. Those who can't speak Pashto are descendants of Pashtuns but you stop being a Pashtun the second you stop speaking Pashto. Because wihout Pashto you can't have a Pashtun.
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I was making fun of the Muhajirs claiming Pashtun ancestry and comparing them to the 5% or so Punjabis that claim Arab ancestry. Both are ridiculous claims made by people with an inferiority complex.Originally posted by kanishka View Post80% of Punjabis are Rajput, Aryan, and that kind of stuff
I mean, 5% of Punjabis actually claim to be Arab and even some Pashtuns have went to punjab, lost their culture and became Punjabis with Pathan ancestry.
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True, it is also how others see you as....after Torkham fighting...there was news that Pakistani Pashtun inhabitant of Lahore were being discriminated for Afghans and they were protesting it. lol ahahahOriginally posted by DSM0305 View PostYou're a Pashtun, when you yourself consider yourself a Pashtun first. Everything else is rubbish and hold zero ground. It is all about identity; one should identify himself as pashtun, to be considered a Pashtun.
Bloodline, language, culture, none matters. The only thing that matters is that you proudly identify yourself as Pashtun.ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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