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Do you consider people like Reham Khan (Imran Khan's ex wife) Pashtun

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shapur View Post
    You would be surprised that some people don't consider her Pashtun because of the way she dressed or the choices she made in the past so its not all about speaking pashto for some people.
    What are the choices she made in the past?

    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
    don’t try to be smart.

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    • #17
      You can dress un-pashtun? I didn't know that.
      I am a "Gold Digger" as they say... The constant search for precious metals never ends. Platinum, Gold, Silver. . . Someone is always selling, and I am always buying.

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      • #18
        There are 2 ways to be Pashtun.

        1. belonging to a Pashtun tribe yet not speaking Pashto (typically tracing your father's father's father's line ...)
        2. Speaking Pashto as your primary language.

        There are millions of Persians, Non-Pashto speaking Pakistnais and Indians that claim to be Pashtun by the first definition. Most People who speak Pashto belong to a Pashtun tribe. The very few Pashto speakers that do not belong to a Pashtun tribe would be Qizilbash(an Azerbaijani turkic tribe that invaded Afghanistan when Iran became a Shia muslim country and started to invade Pashtun lands) or Sikhs (when Sikhs invaded Pashtun lands) that come from another tribe but have adopted Pashto as their first language.

        Reham Khan is Hindkowan. 30-25% of Hindkowan people belong to a Pashtun tribe. The rest of the hindkowans are not Pashtun because they are Gujjar, Tarkhan, Mughal, Turk, Syeed, Qureshi, Awan, Cheema, Ghakhar, Jat, or any other tribe that isn't a Pashutn tribe....

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
          You're a Pashtun, when you yourself consider yourself a Pashtun first. Everything else is rubbish and hold zero ground. It is all about identity; one should identify himself as pashtun, to be considered a Pashtun.

          Bloodline, language, culture, none matters. The only thing that matters is that you proudly identify yourself as Pashtun.
          so by your definition,80%+ of Pakistnai Pashtuns are not Pashtuns?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
            If "Pathans" in India are Pashtun, then Punjabis are Arabs.
            80% of Punjabis are Rajput, Aryan, and that kind of stuff

            I mean, 5% of Punjabis actually claim to be Arab and even some Pashtuns have went to punjab, lost their culture and became Punjabis with Pathan ancestry.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Barakzai Supply View Post
              Whoever can speak Pashto is Pashtun. Even if your parents are Pashtun but you can't speak Pashto then I don't consider you Pashtun.
              Peshawari Sikhs are more Pashtun then a Yusafzai settled in Rawalpindi who can't speak Pashto. Those who can't speak Pashto are descendants of Pashtuns but you stop being a Pashtun the second you stop speaking Pashto. Because wihout Pashto you can't have a Pashtun.
              Yusufzais in Rawalpindi? You mean from India Mohajir community or directly from KPK? cause i know Rohillas that have migrated to Islamabad-Pindi region after the India-Pak Partition.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                80% of Punjabis are Rajput, Aryan, and that kind of stuff

                I mean, 5% of Punjabis actually claim to be Arab and even some Pashtuns have went to punjab, lost their culture and became Punjabis with Pathan ancestry.
                I was making fun of the Muhajirs claiming Pashtun ancestry and comparing them to the 5% or so Punjabis that claim Arab ancestry. Both are ridiculous claims made by people with an inferiority complex.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                  You're a Pashtun, when you yourself consider yourself a Pashtun first. Everything else is rubbish and hold zero ground. It is all about identity; one should identify himself as pashtun, to be considered a Pashtun.

                  Bloodline, language, culture, none matters. The only thing that matters is that you proudly identify yourself as Pashtun.
                  True, it is also how others see you as....after Torkham fighting...there was news that Pakistani Pashtun inhabitant of Lahore were being discriminated for Afghans and they were protesting it. lol ahahah
                  ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                  نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                  چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                  نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                  سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                  بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                  چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                  يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                  سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                  په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                  ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                  اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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