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  • #16
    Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
    nice info bro, how safe is it for non baluch to travel to balochistan?what is life like there, if u have been there?btw do most baloch hate pak & want secesion? My former personal trainer at gym was a Lyari Baloch but he was not black, he looked pashtun surprisngly, there's lot diversity among lyari baloch in my experience

    btw do baloch women marry non baloch?
    Thanks bro.

    A few years ago it was not a big deal at all for non-Baloch to travel in Balochistan but now its not reommended because of these separatist *******s, they will forget about hospitality and may kidnap or kill any non-Baloch because they will suspect them of stealing money/resources from Balochistan.

    I have been to Balochistan only once, I was in Gwadar recently I went there from Oman in December and I didn't stay long, only 2 days. It is very beautiful place but the people's needs has been ignored as always in rural Pakistan there are no facilities for people and so people are not happy with the establishment. It is very sad to see the way people live, with no clean water and conditions which are closer to those in Congo than to Lahore.

    I don't think most Baloch want succession, they just want their lives and province to prosper like central Punjab, which is very reasonable demand. The separatists exploit people's sentiments by always spreading hatred against Punjabis, who they blame for everything like people on this forum.

    My father is also from Lyari but we have moved out of there a long time ago. In my family we have people of very different looks, I have some relatives who look African and some who look Pashtun but most look like normal Pakistanis. I myself am often mistaken for Moroccan or Egyptian.

    In traditional families marriages within tribe/caste are preferred but in many cases Baloch women have married non-Baloch.

    I don't really want to marry a Pakistani girl, too much drama.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Black Pakistani View Post
      Thanks bro.

      A few years ago it was not a big deal at all for non-Baloch to travel in Balochistan but now its not reommended because of these separatist *******s, they will forget about hospitality and may kidnap or kill any non-Baloch because they will suspect them of stealing money/resources from Balochistan.

      I have been to Balochistan only once, I was in Gwadar recently I went there from Oman in December and I didn't stay long, only 2 days. It is very beautiful place but the people's needs has been ignored as always in rural Pakistan there are no facilities for people and so people are not happy with the establishment. It is very sad to see the way people live, with no clean water and conditions which are closer to those in Congo than to Lahore.

      I don't think most Baloch want succession, they just want their lives and province to prosper like central Punjab, which is very reasonable demand. The separatists exploit people's sentiments by always spreading hatred against Punjabis, who they blame for everything like people on this forum.

      My father is also from Lyari but we have moved out of there a long time ago. In my family we have people of very different looks, I have some relatives who look African and some who look Pashtun but most look like normal Pakistanis. I myself am often mistaken for Moroccan or Egyptian.

      In traditional families marriages within tribe/caste are preferred but in many cases Baloch women have married non-Baloch.

      I don't really want to marry a Pakistani girl, too much drama.
      interesting

      so is situation getting better in balochistan?do karachi baloch still speak balochi?what do baloch think of other pakistanis, are they racists like that arnobaloch dude?

      I never met baluch girl that's why i find them exotic, only some pretty ones on PTV Bolan recently.

      yeah paki and asian girls are full of drama but i still settle down with oriental chick over white girl anyday, i used to feel like u but now i changed over past 1 year.
      "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
        there is big baluch influence in Sindh, it's natural progression the more west u travel.

        in Punjab the south have tribes of baloch and afghan origin settle there bringing their own elements influencing seraiki culutre a little like how pukhtun settlements left a bit influence in UP.

        Potohar region is culturally identical to hindko speaking areas, so its not like radically differen't but there is natural cline, if you travel through pak u will notice, i drove from lahore to islamabad before and as i drove through mountains i notice change in physique and features of people and dialect of languague, ur speaking as somebody who is from non native community with little travel experience
        Those are more recent settlers, I am not talking about them

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Black Pakistani View Post
          Sindhi and Balochi culture is very close and we Sindhis and Baloch share more things with each other than with other provinces of Pakistan, especially in our community (Malla)
          many baloch have settled in Sindh over the last few hundred years and mixed, settling is different. I am talking about the culture differences

          In terms of culture, a guy from Sri Lanka is more closer to a guy from Rawalpindi, then a guy from Quetta or Kandahar
          Last edited by Karachi; 04-13-2015, 03:41 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
            interesting

            so is situation getting better in balochistan?do karachi baloch still speak balochi?what do baloch think of other pakistanis, are they racists like that arnobaloch dude?

            I never met baluch girl that's why i find them exotic, only some pretty ones on PTV Bolan recently.

            yeah paki and asian girls are full of drama but i still settle down with oriental chick over white girl anyday, i used to feel like u but now i changed over past 1 year.
            I really don't think the situation is getting better any time soon.

            Yes Karachi people speak Balochi but its a mixed Balochi which is easier to understand by all Baloch tribes and has a lot of Urdu and Sindhi words.

            Generally Baloch are not racist but many have taken this anti-Punjabi , anti-Muhajir stance which can be seen on this forum. The main enmity is political between PPP and MQM.

            I used to know some Iranian Baloch girls, they are nice but just like all other Pakistani/Asian girls its too much drama. I would never marry a White girl but I'd go for Latina or African-American but still I prefer one from Asia or Africa or Spain because of Asian/African/Mediterranean culture being closer to ours than the Western culture of the Americans of all colors.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              many baloch have settled in Sindh over the last few hundred years and mixed, settling is different. I am talking about the culture differences
              There are many similarities between Balochi and Sindhi culture and in many cases they overlap. For example, both Sindhis and Baloch equally revere Shahbaz Qalandar, both Baloch and Sindhis sing Ho Jamalo and both Sindhis and Baloch wear ajrak and Sindhi topi, as well as pag.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Black Pakistani View Post
                There are many similarities between Balochi and Sindhi culture and in many cases they overlap. For example, both Sindhis and Baloch equally revere Shahbaz Qalandar, both Baloch and Sindhis sing Ho Jamalo and both Sindhis and Baloch wear ajrak and Sindhi topi, as well as pag.
                Not sure, I have read that many Sindhis have mixed with Baloch over last few hundred years, perhaps this is the reason baloch culture has creeped in to Sindhi culture?? not sure?

                For example the original non muslim Sindhis (Hindus) are very much Indic in their culture

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                  many baloch have settled in Sindh over the last few hundred years and mixed, settling is different. I am talking about the culture differences

                  In terms of culture, a guy from Sri Lanka is more closer to a guy from Rawalpindi, then a guy from Quetta or Kandahar
                  those settlers went there 200-500 years ago, its long time and left imprints and ruled those areas

                  You are officially a troll with ur dumb statment of a Potohari being cloer to Sri Lankan, u got serious issues brother

                  The tropical climate of Sri Lanka is totally d/f from temperate climate of Pindi and their cold winters, Potohari lifestyle is completely d/f from islander lifestyle and culture of dravidians

                  Potohari don't eat much spice, they don't wear sari, their women wear shalwar kameez & men wear shalwar kurta(dothis in old times)

                  Here's a man from Rawalpindi



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                  they look sri lankan to you, you imbecile even shoaib akhtar & raja pervez types stand out in sri lanka/south india.

                  Even u muhajirs don't have cultural similarities with sri lankans let along punjabis.
                  "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    Not sure, I have read that many Sindhis have mixed with Baloch over last few hundred years, perhaps this is the reason baloch culture has creeped in to Sindhi culture?? not sure?

                    For example the original non muslim Sindhis (Hindus) are very much Indic in their culture
                    Hindu Sindhis are different, they are completely different from us.

                    The Muslim Sindhis share many things with Baloch, even if they are not of Baloch descent themselves for example, Sindhis in Tando Adam Khan love to eat mutton sajji which is of course a Balochi dish but Sindhis and Baloch from coastal regions eat shrimp and prawns, desert Baloch or Sindhis will never eat shrimp or prawns unless they are educated/exposed to Western culture.

                    Baloch are also very Indic in their culture for example, Baloch tradition demands that when you meet a peer or religious figure they touch their feet like in Indian movies and even most Sindhis, Punjabis or Urdu-speaking don't do that.
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                    • #25
                      Side note, my best friend is Sri Lankan Tamil and we do not have much in common but sometimes there are things which are exactly the same in both cultures.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Black Pakistani View Post
                        I really don't think the situation is getting better any time soon.

                        Yes Karachi people speak Balochi but its a mixed Balochi which is easier to understand by all Baloch tribes and has a lot of Urdu and Sindhi words.

                        Generally Baloch are not racist but many have taken this anti-Punjabi , anti-Muhajir stance which can be seen on this forum. The main enmity is political between PPP and MQM.

                        I used to know some Iranian Baloch girls, they are nice but just like all other Pakistani/Asian girls its too much drama. I would never marry a White girl but I'd go for Latina or African-American but still I prefer one from Asia or Africa or Spain because of Asian/African/Mediterranean culture being closer to ours than the Western culture of the Americans of all colors.
                        so are baloch religious or cool about religion?i have baloch friend jhal magsi and one from nushki, the 1 from jhal magsi is atheist but 1 from nushki is very religious like pushtun, hell the one from Jhal Magsi looks Sindhi or Muhajir but one from Nushki looks Pushtun, so i suppose these d/f are varying from region within bstan?
                        "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                          how is close are balochi & pashtu, can u as pashto speaker, understand balochi and can they understand pashto easily?
                          I didnt say linguistically they are similar, similarities are in values , traits and some customs.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                            those settlers went there 200-500 years ago, its long time and left imprints and ruled those areas

                            You are officially a troll with ur dumb statment of a Potohari being cloer to Sri Lankan, u got serious issues brother

                            The tropical climate of Sri Lanka is totally d/f from temperate climate of Pindi and their cold winters, Potohari lifestyle is completely d/f from islander lifestyle and culture of dravidians

                            Potohari don't eat much spice, they don't wear sari, their women wear shalwar kameez & men wear shalwar kurta(dothis in old times)

                            Here's a man from Rawalpindi



                            senior politicians from pindi







                            they look sri lankan to you, you imbecile even shoaib akhtar & raja pervez types stand out in sri lanka/south india.

                            Even u muhajirs don't have cultural similarities with sri lankans let along punjabis.
                            I am not saying they are exact similiar, what I am saying is that eastern pakistani/north indian cultures is more similar to Sri Lankan culture then it is to Baloch/Pashtun/Afghan cultures, this is a reality. This is why Pakistan/Sri Lanka are in south asia and same cultural zone

                            also you are only picking the lighter skinned ones, is Shoaib Akhtar who is from Rawalpindi really that different from Kumara Sangakara (Sri Lanka





                            ^ my point is many pakistanis can fit in sri lanka, and many sri lankans can fit in eastern pakistan
                            Last edited by Karachi; 04-13-2015, 04:19 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Baloch of Sindh is Sindh-ized, compare them with those of far areas like those in Iran or Afghanistan. The ones in Lyari are mostly not true Balochs but sheedis
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                                I am not saying they are exact similiar, what I am saying is that eastern pakistani/north indian cultures is more similar to Sri Lankan culture then it is to Baloch/Pashtun/Afghan cultures, this is a reality. This is why Pakistan/Sri Lanka are in south asia and same cultural zone
                                lol these regions are new terms, they change along political line every new century or two

                                sri lankan/south indian culture are extremely d/f from eastern pak culture, eastern pak culture is same as north indian like yours, stop your agenda brother

                                people are closest to their geographic neighbors, so stop your trolling now, your hate for pakistan and punjabis in particular is weird, it should stop, i don't even think muhajirs are like sri lankans or bengalis and u are stretching dravidian kingdom all the way to the of the abaseen(indus)
                                "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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