Who do you think Pashtuns are most similar too?

[Afghanfootball]

Who do you think Pashtuns are most similar too?
Personally if I could rank the groups we are most similar to I would put
Tajiks
Nurestanis
Balochis
Persians

[HalloIsBack]

Jews!

[tripledouble]

Depend on region, pashtuns are spread out so they overlap with neighboring ppulations

[Smarty]

Very dissimilar to Tajiks and Persians. The culture, traits , customs, ways of life and the nature of Pashtuns are way too different from Persians and Tajiks. The closest group would be Baloch in my opinion, the suliemani Balochs in particular. I dont know much about Nurestanis except that they are similar to chitralis of Pakistan. In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the Kohistanis ( a dardic group) are little bit close to Pashtuns in some aspects. Hindkowans and Punjabis are polar opposites to Pashtuns in manners and traits. So the two neighbors Punjabis (including Seraikis and Hindkis) and Tajiks are very different from Pashtuns. Persians are effeminate and lowly bunch, so i dont know why some Afghans feel close to them, must be persianized ones.

[Black Pakistani]

Out of the above choice, Pashtuns are closest to Baloch (but not all Balochan are the same). The Baloch that Pashtuns share the most with are probably the Suleimani as said before but still there are great differences between Pashtun and Baloch culture.

There are some cultures which are very similar to Pashtunwali but these are not found in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

For example, there are more similarities between the culture of the Fulani people in North/West Africa and Pashtun culture than there are between Pashtuns and Punjabis or Tajiks. However Tajiks and Punjabis are genetically much closer to Pashtuns than the Fulani.

Let's look at some similarities between the Fulani and Pashtun cultures:

1. The Fulani are bound together by the common language of Fulfulde, as well as by some basic elements of Fulbe culture, such as the pulaaku, a code of conduct common to all Fulani groups. This is very similar to Pashtunwali and the importance of speaking the Pashto language in order to be identified as a Pashtun.

2. The Fulani, like the Pashtuns were originally nomadic pastoralists and both the Kuchi (Pashtun nomads) and the Fulani nomads form some of the largest nomadic population groups in the world.

3. Pashtuns are considered the "ruling class" in most of the areas in which they have settled, just like the Fulani settled in African communities.

4. Just like Pashtuns have assimilated non-Pashtuns into their way of life (for example Paracha, Daam, Jatt, Kwatanay, Hindus, Sikhs and other groups), there are castes of people from various backgrounds which have been assimilated into the Fulani culture. Like the Pashtuns, the Fulani don't often consider such communities as true Fulanis.

5. Both the Pashtun and the Fulani are nearly all Muslim and they are generally considered very religious people compared to their neighbours.

6. Moral code (Pashtunwali and Laawol Fulbe/Pulaaku)

Central to the Fulani people's lifestyle, is a code of behavior known as pulaaku or (Laawol FulBe) in Fulfulde, literally meaning the Fulani pathway which are passed on by each generation as high moral values of the Fulbe, which enables them to maintain their identity across boundaries and changes of life style. Essentially viewed as what makes a person Fulani or "Fulaniness", pulaaku consists of four basic tenets.
The dominant traits of Laawol Pulaaku or the Fulani way are munyal, hakkiilo, semteende, sagata and an intimate understanding of both the Fulfulde language and people. Munyal is a cross between strength and courage in adversity and a stoic acceptance or endurance of the supposedly pre-ordained vicissitudes of life. It is often translated as patience. The word hakkiilo (hakkille) meaning intelligence, foresight and common sense, conveys a blending of prudence and shrewdness in livelihood management and face to face encounters.
Semteende (shame) is best described both as a lacking of restraint (gacce/yaage) and self-control in daily social interaction, and evidencing a weakness when facing adversity. It is most often translated as shame. When someone acts shamefully, Fulbe say o sempti meaning they shamed themselves, or alternatively, o walaa semteende (o wala gacce) meaning they have no shame. In other words a pullo must know of the social constraints on behavior and be able to avoid contravening them in all situations, especially in front of others. A true pullo is in total control of his emotions and impulses

• Munyal: Patience, self-control, discipline, prudence
• Gacce / Semteende: Modesty, respect for others (including foes)
• Hakkille: Wisdom, forethought, personal responsibility, hospitality
• Sagata / Tiinaade: Courage, hard work

Many aspects of this moral code are similar to Pashtunwali.

7. There are no particular outfits for all Fulani subgroups, dressing and clothing accessories such as ornaments, mostly depend on the particular region. The same is generally true for the Pashtuns.

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So, as we can see, the Fulani people of Africa probably have more in common culturally with the Pashtuns than neighbouring populations and I have heard that the Fulani are descended from a Persian prince so perhaps the relationship between the two cultures is deeper than it appears.

[tripledouble]

Very dissimilar to Tajiks and Persians. The culture, traits , customs, ways of life and the nature of Pashtuns are way too different from Persians and Tajiks. The closest group would be Baloch in my opinion, the suliemani Balochs in particular. I dont know much about Nurestanis except that they are similar to chitralis of Pakistan. In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the Kohistanis ( a dardic group) are little bit close to Pashtuns in some aspects. Hindkowans and Punjabis are polar opposites to Pashtuns in manners and traits. So the two neighbors Punjabis (including Seraikis and Hindkis) and Tajiks are very different from Pashtuns. Persians are effeminate and lowly bunch, so i dont know why some Afghans feel close to them, must be persianized ones.

how is close are balochi & pashtu, can u as pashto speaker, understand balochi and can they understand pashto easily?

[Black Pakistani]

how is close are balochi & pashtu, can u as pashto speaker, understand balochi and can they understand pashto easily?

I can speak both.

There are some common words but the two languages are not mutually intelligible. Pashto is closest to Wakhi and Pamir languages while Balochi is closest to Persian dialects and even Kurdish in some cases.

Man warag waran in Balochi means "I am eating food"
In Pashto, za khorak ukhorram would be similar to the Balochi form.

Mani gwaar in Balochi is my sister, in Pashto, zma khor means the same.

Numbers in Balochi are the same as Persian but Pashto has different numbers like yaw, dwa, dre, salor; Balochi has yek, du, se char, etc.

[Karachi]

I do sometimes wonder why there is such a huge divide of (cultures) between south asia and the region just west of it, especially since there are no huge mountains like (Himalayas) to divide the region, only indus river per say, or short mountain ranges.

For example (Punjab,SIndh) are so close to places like Balochistan, Waziristan and the Pashtun belt, yet the cultures are totally different

[Black Pakistani]

Here is a comparison of Pashto and Balochi

Scorpion in Pashto (larram) and in Balochi (zoom)
Mother in Pashto (mor) and in Balochi (maat)
Brother in Pashto (wror) and in Balochi (brat)
Night in Pashto (shpa) and in Balochi (shap)

Balochi: mana bugo tai naam chi ent
Pashto: maa ta wowaya sta noom sa dey
English: tell me your name

Also, Balochi and Pashto sound very different, Balochi is very soft language with no "kh" or "gh" sounds like in Pashto or Urdu so khwaja "mister" is "waaja" and "khwaab" dream/sleep is pronounced "waab". In Pashto sleep is "khob" and "khwaja" is not used in Pashto in the same sense.

[tripledouble]

I can speak both.

There are some common words but the two languages are not mutually intelligible. Pashto is closest to Wakhi and Pamir languages while Balochi is closest to Persian dialects and even Kurdish in some cases.

Man warag waran in Balochi means "I am eating food"
In Pashto, za khorak ukhorram would be similar to the Balochi form.

Mani gwaar in Balochi is my sister, in Pashto, zma khor means the same.

Numbers in Balochi are the same as Persian but Pashto has different numbers like yaw, dwa, dre, salor; Balochi has yek, du, se char, etc.

which is easier to learn?i find balochi nicer sounding than pashto which is rougher imo.

Also when Baloch and Pashtuns meet each other what language they converse in?Urdu,Farsi or Pashto?

btw r u from quetta?

[tripledouble]

I do sometimes wonder why there is such a huge divide of (cultures) between south asia and the region just west of it, especially since there are no huge mountains like (Himalayas) to divide the region, only indus river per say, or short mountain ranges.

For example (Punjab,SIndh) are so close to places like Balochistan, Waziristan and the Pashtun belt, yet the cultures are totally different

there is big baluch influence in Sindh, it's natural progression the more west u travel.

in Punjab the south have tribes of baloch and afghan origin settle there bringing their own elements influencing seraiki culutre a little like how pukhtun settlements left a bit influence in UP.

Potohar region is culturally identical to hindko speaking areas, so its not like radically differen't but there is natural cline, if you travel through pak u will notice, i drove from lahore to islamabad before and as i drove through mountains i notice change in physique and features of people and dialect of languague, ur speaking as somebody who is from non native community with little travel experience

[Black Pakistani]

which is easier to learn?i find balochi nicer sounding than pashto which is rougher imo.

Also when Baloch and Pashtuns meet each other what language they converse in?Urdu,Farsi or Pashto?

btw r u from quetta?

Balochi is much easier to learn than Pashto.

Balochi grammar is similar to Farsi so there is no gender like in Pashto or Urdu.

Balochi that we speak in Karachi is not very different from other dialects and all Balochi dialects can easily understand each other but there are some differences like Iranian and Afghan Balochi is more rough and Makorani and Kechi is softer. They say maas and braas instead of maat and brat, nadeena instead of nazeena, and others.


It depends where they meet in Pakistan a Pashtun and Baloch would probably speak Urdu but in Afghanistan probably they would use Farsi, I don't know.

I'm not from Quetta. I am a Karachiwala.

[Black Pakistani]

Sindhi and Balochi culture is very close and we Sindhis and Baloch share more things with each other than with other provinces of Pakistan, especially in our community (Malla)

[Black Pakistani]

Pashtun Attan dance and Balochi/Makorani Lewa dance have some similarities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSGvlqWBF6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmPnkdSDS4

[tripledouble]

Balochi is much easier to learn than Pashto.

Balochi grammar is similar to Farsi so there is no gender like in Pashto or Urdu.

Balochi that we speak in Karachi is not very different from other dialects and all Balochi dialects can easily understand each other but there are some differences like Iranian and Afghan Balochi is more rough and Makorani and Kechi is softer. They say maas and braas instead of maat and brat, nadeena instead of nazeena, and others.


It depends where they meet in Pakistan a Pashtun and Baloch would probably speak Urdu but in Afghanistan probably they would use Farsi, I don't know.

I'm not from Quetta. I am a Karachiwala.

nice info bro, how safe is it for non baluch to travel to balochistan?what is life like there, if u have been there?btw do most baloch hate pak & want secesion? My former personal trainer at gym was a Lyari Baloch but he was not black, he looked pashtun surprisngly, there's lot diversity among lyari baloch in my experience

btw do baloch women marry non baloch?