My struggle for Secularism

[Khostai]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uenbyW87gUg

[ghumbasa]

I was expecting something good khostai like what actually has secularism given to humanity..not some lady taslima useless efforts...

[Khostai]

I was expecting something good khostai like what actually has secularism given to humanity..not some lady taslima useless efforts...

The fact that you have the freedom to type your garbage, is the gift from the secular world to your ungratefull .
kindly do not use abusive language against other members.
You are welcome to continue your thread.
manana

[ghumbasa]

The fact that you have the freedom to type your garbage, is the gift from the secular world to your ungratefull ass.

Huh name calling again? Wrong the use of internet was not initially for the likes of common people like you or me but for defence and spying purposes plus NASA.
Initially it was for higher educational community but with each progression ...the basic education was given to public only then.

Transition to Widespread Infrastructure:

At the same time that the Internet technology was being experimentally validated and widely used amongst a subset of computer science researchers, other networks and networking technologies were being pursued. The usefulness of computer networking - especially electronic mail - demonstrated by DARPA and Department of Defense contractors on the ARPANET was not lost on other communities and disciplines, so that by the mid-1970s computer networks had begun to spring up wherever funding could be found for the purpose. The U.S. Department of Energy (DoE) established MFENet for its researchers in Magnetic Fusion Energy, whereupon DoE's High Energy Physicists responded by building HEPNet. NASA Space Physicists followed with SPAN, and Rick Adrion, David Farber, and Larry Landweber established CSNET for the (academic and industrial) Computer Science community with an initial grant from the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF). AT&T's free-wheeling dissemination of the UNIX computer operating system spawned USENET, based on UNIX' built-in UUCP communication protocols, and in 1981 Ira Fuchs and Greydon Freeman devised BITNET, which linked academic mainframe computers in an "email as card images" paradigm.

[jankhan]

The title is ''Taslima nasreen global atheist convention''

[jankhan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojosaGQ6UR8

[ghumbasa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojosaGQ6UR8

Do you know that west is trying best to impose marxism,secularism and socialism.Religion esp islam is standing on its way...ironically its islam thats spreading fast..so now they propagated the idea of extremism in religion to make people run from religion...and hate islam.

[gadoonwal]

I was expecting something good khostai like what actually has secularism given to humanity..not some lady taslima useless efforts...

wror jana,
we should respect others views.
we can not impose our views on others.
we all have different views and thinking.
we should share our thoughts with eachothers.
I hope you understand my point.
Taslima is not my ideal but I still welcome khostai to continue and let him explain to us.

[jankhan]

Secularism is the very first step towards atheism. Secularism is not just separating religion from the state matters but it is a very vast social engineering system where people are attracted towards materialism, non spiritualism.

[Khostai]

Secularism is the very first step towards atheism. Secularism is not just separating religion from the state matters but it is a very vast social engineering system where people are attracted towards materialism, non spiritualism.

Tha is total lie, I live in the most secular country in the world, but still I see million of people being religious and non-materialistic, but instead in the theocrtic societies materialism is much higher, example Afghanistan, people do everything for money now, the same in PAkistan, all the focus on Islam and Islamisation didn't make them a better people or spiritual at all.

I alway tought spreading lies was Haram when you are a muslim, so way you do this all the time?

[Khostai]

Do you know that west is trying best to impose marxism,secularism and socialism.Religion esp islam is standing on its way...ironically its islam thats spreading fast..so now they propagated the idea of extremism in religion to make people run from religion...and hate islam.

If west want to destroy Islam why it allows to build mosque on its own soil? Why does it allow millions of muslim to practise their relligion in total freedom withour presecution?
Stop spreading useless propoganda, west could care less about Islam, the sooner you realise this, the better.

[Khostai]

Huh name calling again? Wrong the use of internet was not initially for the likes of common people like you or me but for defence and spying purposes plus NASA.
Initially it was for higher educational community but with each progression ...the basic education was given to public only then.

Transition to Widespread Infrastructure:

At the same time that the Internet technology was being experimentally validated and widely used amongst a subset of computer science researchers, other networks and networking technologies were being pursued. The usefulness of computer networking - especially electronic mail - demonstrated by DARPA and Department of Defense contractors on the ARPANET was not lost on other communities and disciplines, so that by the mid-1970s computer networks had begun to spring up wherever funding could be found for the purpose. The U.S. Department of Energy (DoE) established MFENet for its researchers in Magnetic Fusion Energy, whereupon DoE's High Energy Physicists responded by building HEPNet. NASA Space Physicists followed with SPAN, and Rick Adrion, David Farber, and Larry Landweber established CSNET for the (academic and industrial) Computer Science community with an initial grant from the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF). AT&T's free-wheeling dissemination of the UNIX computer operating system spawned USENET, based on UNIX' built-in UUCP communication protocols, and in 1981 Ira Fuchs and Greydon Freeman devised BITNET, which linked academic mainframe computers in an "email as card images" paradigm.

My comment was about the freedom of relligion and speech, that it was thanks to secularist that you can spread your bul**** ideas about wahabist and Jamiat Islami propaganda here.
It is thanks to secularist that millions of you ungratefull wahabist can practise Islam in the west.
But still the founders and makers of the internet come from a secular society and not from some shariah hell hole.

[ghumbasa]

If west want to destroy Islam why it allows to build mosque on its own soil? Why does it allow millions of muslim to practise their relligion in total freedom withour presecution?
Stop spreading useless propoganda, west could care less about Islam, the sooner you realise this, the better.

Muslims still have lot of problems in constructing masjids in secular societies...but by using their man power and contribution of economy...putting pressure on govts via peaceful strikes they ve been able to make masajids that too not everywhere..but in some regions.West does care about islam hence invading countries...

[ghumbasa]

My comment was about the freedom of relligion and speech, that it was thanks to secularist that you can spread your bul**** ideas about wahabist and Jamiat Islami propaganda here.
It is thanks to secularist that millions of you ungratefull wahabist can practise Islam in the west.
But still the founders and makers of the internet come from a secular society and not from some shariah hell hole.

Founders didnt care for humanity when it was made but it was for defence purposes...where spies could communicate easily from distances.Even now ..an advanced tech is not available to common man but in defence ministries first till outdated...given to you.

By the way...internet system were not introduced by seculars or athiests but jews...

[ghumbasa]

wror jana,
we should respect others views.
we can not impose our views on others.
we all have different views and thinking.
we should share our thoughts with eachothers.
I hope you understand my point.
Taslima is not my ideal but I still welcome khostai to continue and let him explain to us.

Ofcourse i want genuin discussions hence i am encouraging khostai to put forth his views..without name calling.Because afterall we all are humans and i believe in agree to diasgree concept.Definitly no one can force someone..until one wants a change in himself or herself...If Allah has given humans choices who are we to stop them so.

Discussions with respect would attract more users too...inshAllah.