pashtuns officers of pak army killing waziris/pashtuns for the interests of punjab

[gadoonwal]

I have no words what to call these oppertunists,selfish ,benang and sell out pashtuns or what?.
In fact it wil be an insult to call these thugs pashtuns.
Most pashtuns serving in pak army are from southren distt like Kohat,bannu,laki marwat and tribal areas.There are pashtuns from northren distt too but smaller in numbers.
A freind of mine shown me a pictures of pashtun army officer and a major in north-waziristan.
The top officer was ordering the demolishing of shops and houses.
Later proudly the officer sent those pictures to his close freinds and family members.Our freind somehow manage and got these pictures.
However he refused to give it to me cus he was concern for safety.
It was shocking how they destroy n-waziristan .

Many of these officers are from Tribal areas and they are serving side by side with punjoos.
Will a punjabi do this to his people ?
no

The incharge of operation is also pashtun from the same region.


The purpose of this post is that pashtuns will suffer more and more.
they are addicted to gulami and serving others and killing their own.
They are not loyal and pathman pashtana.
pashtuns have no sympathey for their own blood.
Just pay them and ask him to get his father,s head they will get you.
They cry for kashmiris but they do,nt see the suffering of afghan-pashtuns and pashtunkhwa pashtuns.

I mean not all pashtuns are like these gulamans but it is fact they can be hired.

The pashtuns serving in pak army are the worst kind of people.
The pashtuns serving in ,,isi,,bombing the graves of pashtun heroes.
They will make pashtun women to become prostitute for punjabis.

I sweer to allah that these are not halalyan.
They can not be pashtuns.
A blue blood pashtun will cut the head of lungmar if he try to touch pashtun motherland/afghanistan or pashtunkhwa but these are fake and sell out oppertunists.

[tripledouble]

@gadoonwal a Punjabi would do it to his people too, just look at the model town massacre or when India and Pakistan fight wars, Punjabis from both countries kill each other because most Indian and Pakistani soldiers are Punjabis.

Why don't you protest when Afghan national army kills Pashtuns in Afghanistan?Why do you only cry like a baby when Pakistan does it?

so you want us to watch punjabis kill pashtun?
few thugs were killed in model town on the other side over 40000 pashtun were killed.
yes,we condemn the action of those ANA officers killing innocents pashtuns.

[Smarty]

Actually most of the pashtuns in pak army are from peshawer division (peshawer, nowshera, charsada, swabi and mardan) and kohat division (kohat and karak). On tribal basis, largest number of soldiers and officers belong to yousafzais followed by khattaks.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Most of the pashtun soldier in PA are from nearby region's of peshawar and that include swabi aswell.Please don't spread false info.

if it was not for the unity of pashtuns,I would have rather declared the southern side of KPK as a new province,Enough of this BS so called pashtun nationalist from charsada and mardan ruling us.we need a seperate province from region below to kohat upto dera ismail khan

[Smarty]

[MENTION=1068]gadoonwal[/MENTION] a Punjabi would do it to his people too, just look at the model town massacre or when India and Pakistan fight wars, Punjabis from both countries kill each other because most Indian and Pakistani soldiers are Punjabis.

Why don't you protest when Afghan national army kills Pashtuns in Afghanistan?Why do you only cry like a baby when Pakistan does it?

Valid point. In Okara, pakistani soldiers opened fire on their own punjabi farmers. Any army in the world would do the same if ordered to do so. Would gadoonwal also plead to the policemen in his area that he should be spared from arrestjust because he is pashtun?. Should he expect that no one would steal or rob him in swabi just because pathans live there?. .. pashtun nationalis often forget in their racial bigotry that there are colours and ways of life, beside racial nationalism. Neither pashtunist nor pakistanist is gauranted to be a good man. Every one is capable of doing worse and good.

[Smarty]

Most of the pashtun soldier in PA are from nearby region's of peshawar and that include swabi aswell.Please don't spread false info.

if it was not for the unity of pashtuns,I would have rather declared the southern side of KPK as a new province,Enough of this BS so called pashtun nationalist from charsada and mardan ruling us.we need a seperate province from region below to kohat upto dera ismail khan

Before takht-e-lahore, we need to get rid of takht-e-peshawer.

[tripledouble]

Most of the pashtun soldier in PA are from nearby region's of peshawar and that include swabi aswell.Please don't spread false info.

if it was not for the unity of pashtuns,I would have rather declared the southern side of KPK as a new province,Enough of this BS so called pashtun nationalist from charsada and mardan ruling us.we need a seperate province from region below to kohat upto dera ismail khan

Isn't the Frontier Corps made up of Balochistani-Pashtuns?General Waheed Kakar was from Quetta.

[Smarty]

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[Badlun]

Please make a difference in Taliban and non Taliban Pashtun. Wwe must condemn if a Pashtun or non Pashtun officer kills a non Taliban Pashtun but a Talib killed or his property destroyed by a Pashtun or non Pahstun officer must be applauded.

Indeed these Pashtun army officers are doing a favor to Pashtuns by killing Pashtun and non Pashtun terrorists.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Please make a difference in Taliban and non Taliban Pashtun. Wwe must condemn if a Pashtun or non Pashtun officer kills a non Taliban Pashtun but a Talib killed or his property destroyed by a Pashtun or non Pahstun officer must be applauded.

Indeed these Pashtun army officers are doing a favor to Pashtuns by killing Pashtun and non Pashtun terrorists.

This is an example of secular militant ideology and what I meant before when I said this is the ideology you employ as the means to whatever ends. At the end of the day, a shoot first investigate later approach to dealing with your own citizens is nonsense. FATA is a unique place and even Jinnah recognized its governance pattern would vary from mainland Pakistan. In every quam there are people who fight for different reasons. If a Wazir, as one that was interviewed by Washington Post, is mad about the undue killing of his family and seizure of his livestock and had to flee to Khost, and decides to take up arms in badal is killed as a result of this operation I hardly think its fair to call such a person or even those that simply said they refuse to leave their land and be internally displaced as "militants."

The essential problem with secular militancy is that it promotes an a very unnatural and non native approach to dealing with those whose native ideologies are radicalized in the status of war. Unless crushing force is used this never solves the problem. Back in the day I recall the discussions of success that Hafez Assad had in Hama (despite his troops destroying the homes of even Sunni officer sympathizers) and his claim that he had "crushed" the resistance... in the same way in recent years secular militants have praised Putin in his approach to Chechnya. Yet the evidences that are coming out now and the subsequent unfolding of events show that memories are long and that vengeance comes about slowly and surely and sometimes haphazardly. Now these two men or their proxies/families are facing a worse resistance in these areas.

In the end, Pakistan will find itself less stable based on the statements of various Wazir IDPs who no longer feel an affinity for the state apparatus and who were already ambivalent relative to their brethren in KP proper.

[Khostai]

[MENTION=1068]gadoonwal[/MENTION] a Punjabi would do it to his people too, just look at the model town massacre or when India and Pakistan fight wars, Punjabis from both countries kill each other because most Indian and Pakistani soldiers are Punjabis.

Why don't you protest when Afghan national army kills Pashtuns in Afghanistan?Why do you only cry like a baby when Pakistan does it?

Becuase he is Pashtun from Pakistan and not Afghanistan.

[tripledouble]

Becuase he is Pashtun from Pakistan and not Afghanistan.

Pashtuns from Afghanistan don't condemn the ANA for atrocities against Pashtuns in their country but criticize Pakistan all the time.

[Khostai]

Pashtuns from Afghanistan don't condemn the ANA for atrocities against Pashtuns in their country but criticize Pakistan all the time.

we do it all the time, its you pakis that see your army as some holy worriors.

[tripledouble]

we do it all the time, its you pakis that see your army as some holy worriors.

lol we're the ones who insult our own army, I've never seen Afghans criticize their army for killing Pushtuns, they only blame Pakistanis particulary Punjabis and Sindhis.....

[BarakzaiAbdali]

lol we're the ones who insult our own army, I've never seen Afghans criticize their army for killing Pushtuns, they only blame Pakistanis particulary Punjabis and Sindhis.....

This is a non evidence based statement

Here are the facts from recent Pew Data:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/08/27/...d-in-pakistan/

The Pakistani military receives an extremely high level of public support. Fully 87% give the military positive ratings, an eight percentage point increase from 2013.

From that same report: Here is the supporting pictorial showing just how lopsided and brainwashed the public is by the Pakistani Military's nearly 24 hour propaganda popularizing their atrocities against their own people.

Notice how lopsided public military support is relative to nearly all other institutions.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/08/27/a-less-gloomy-mood-in-pakistan/pg-2014-08-27-pakistan-09/