Da Bannu on the run, Shapazai on the loose

[gadoonwal]

Go and check all the posts on this forum. The Afghans loose their tongue more than the Pakistanis here on this vary forum. How many examples you need. Check this vary same thread.



Abdul Ghani Khan named his books The Pathans. So he was not a real Pakhtun that's why he called the whole nation a Pathan instead of a Pashtun/Pakhtun?

Ghani khan never use the name pathan in real life.
Pathan is the indic name of pashtun.IF you go to india they will call you pathan.
Pashtun never use this term.
Ghani was born in british era and they called pashtun pathan if he named his book ,,the pathan,,,it is not surprising.
I have never seen anyone calling himself pathan.
This is name given to us by indians.
You do,nt even know your real name .
Thousands of years ago Greek historain Herodotus called us pakhteen or pakhtun.
All of the above we pashtuns never call eachother pathan.
May be your indain freind in karachi call you this name.

[gadoonwal]

Pa saritoob kho taso khabari kawalay na shai! Ao pukhto ao da pukhtunistan wird mi shuro karay wi!

1) Go back to why this discussion about identity started and you will get the answer.

2) No I don't want you to ask Sherpao about my ex-nazim etc etc. I gave you this reference for a reason. Re-Read our discussion.

3) So Bacha Khan who said, 'My idea of Pakhtunistan is an autonomous Pakhtun province within the boundries of Pakistan' was a bay-gherat according to you. I am proud to be one as well.

4) So Bacha Khan who announced on the floor of the assembly that, 'I am a loyal citizen of this state, Pakistan. I cannot go against it. All my struggle is for the betterment of it's people.' He was a bay-gherat according to you, I am proud to be one.

pa saritob tha na pohagay chi wraz aw shpa da punjabyanu mlathar kaway aw da khpal qaam da kaatelano sefatona kaway.
lanat de wey padasay pukhtanu.

ok so why Bacha khan was burried in afghanistan then?
Bacha khan did,nt vote for pakistan in the refrendum why?
Later he had no choice but to work for the rights of minority and autonomy.The plan was for complete freedom but that was the first step.
In politics you have to follow such steps to reach to your goal.
Look it Iraq.kurd first ask for autonomy and now they are going to declare azad kurdistan.


His agenda was for greater afg/pashtunistan not for ,,daalistan.
From the time of Amanullah khan Bacha khan was working for pakhtun unity into one country.
did,nt the ANp leaders shouted the ,,lar aw bar yaw afghan ghwaro,,in the 80s?
why?



All of the above why bacha khan and wali khan was called ,,ghadar by your casuns punjabis?

In afghanistan he was called fahri afghan while in your fake-istan he was called ,,ghadar.

[gadoonwal]

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I have always said that this Subhuman should not quote me as a dirty smelly shi-twhole like him force me to take ghussal as i know getting in verbal contact with a Pig is not allowed.

@gadoonwal Brother please look into the comment of this mordar.even though i know he's a son of a PIG but still i won't call him "De Sur Bachaye".Becasue for him atleast i won't abuse his Father.As i am a pashtun unlike a dirty smelly ******* like him

You both did the samething now so what can i say.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Ghani khan never use the name pathan in real life.

So you are trying to tell me that Ghani Khan was not in real life when he wrote that book. When he gave those interviews?

Pathan is the indic name of pashtun.IF you go to india they will call you pathan.
Pashtun never use this term.

I just told you that a Pashtun named a book written after the entire nation with this term.

Ghani was born in british era and they called pashtun pathan if he named his book ,,the pathan,,,it is not surprising.

So now you agree that it's not a mere name given to us by someone. And there is no harm in using it? For if Ghani can use it, we can use it as well.

I have never seen anyone calling himself pathan.
This is name given to us by indians.
You do,nt even know your real name .
Thousands of years ago Greek historain Herodotus called us pakhteen or pakhtun.
All of the above we pashtuns never call eachother pathan.
May be your indain freind in karachi call you this name.

1) Ok so you have proofs for what Greek Historians called us? :D

2) I don't have a problem with any name?

3) No, My Pakistani friends call me by my real name.

[Shehbaz Khan]

pa saritob tha na pohagay chi wraz aw shpa da punjabyanu mlathar kaway aw da khpal qaam da kaatelano sefatona kaway.
lanat de wey padasay pukhtanu.

ok so why Bacha khan was burried in afghanistan then?
Bacha khan did,nt vote for pakistan in the refrendum why?
Later he had no choice but to work for the rights of minority and autonomy.The plan was for complete freedom but that was the first step.
In politics you have to follow such steps to reach to your goal.
Look it Iraq.kurd first ask for autonomy and now they are going to declare azad kurdistan.


His agenda was for greater afg/pashtunistan not for ,,daalistan.
From the time of Amanullah khan Bacha khan was working for pakhtun unity into one country.
did,nt the ANp leaders shouted the ,,lar aw bar yaw afghan ghwaro,,in the 80s?
why?



All of the above why bacha khan and wali khan was called ,,ghadar by your casuns punjabis?

In afghanistan he was called fahri afghan while in your fake-istan he was called ,,ghadar.

1) It was a matter of his personal choice, just like working for the betterment of Pakistan was his personal choice, not forced by anyone. Ao dwaima da che hagha pa Afghanistan ki da cha pa maena ki na day prot khpal koar ao bagh lari if he wanted to be burried there I have no problem with it.

Why is Wali Khan burried in Pakistan?

2) Many people are given titles by others not surely right. So was the case with Bacha Khan. Search for Ghani Khan's interview and tell me what he stated about all this.


Last but not the least, you agreed to the first two points so didn't respond to it. Appreciated!

[gadoonwal]

1) It was a matter of his personal choice, just like working for the betterment of Pakistan was his personal choice, not forced by anyone. Ao dwaima da che hagha pa Afghanistan ki da cha pa maena ki na day prot khpal koar ao bagh lari if he wanted to be burried there I have no problem with it.

Why is Wali Khan burried in Pakistan?

2) Many people are given titles by others not surely right. So was the case with Bacha Khan. Search for Ghani Khan's interview and tell me what he stated about all this.


Last but not the least, you agreed to the first two points so didn't respond to it. Appreciated!

Bacha khan advised to be burried in afghanistan to give a message of pashtun unity of lar aw bar.he was burried in a land given to him by dawood khan.That land is in afghanistan.
Wali khan himself is burried in occupied afghanistan/pashtunistan.
The entire pashtunland is part of loy pakhtunkhwa or loy afghanistan.
So you want pashtun to give their land to your punjoos?
Peshawar,mardan,nokhar,swaby,swat,queta,upper hazara are all part of loy pakhtunkhwa or loy afghanistan samething.
It is only a matter of time when your ,,lungmaar,,,punjabi will be kicked out.
About Ghani khan i told you that he was born in british era and that is not hard to understand why he use pathan.


You are pathan not pashtun cus pashtuns never like to be called by indian name.
You are living among indains so be proud pathan slave.
A pashtun is the name of honour and gerat.

You are proud of your hindo name and not your pashtu name.
a slave,s mind will always be slave

[gadoonwal]

So you are trying to tell me that Ghani Khan was not in real life when he wrote that book. When he gave those interviews?




I just told you that a Pashtun named a book written after the entire nation with this term.




So now you agree that it's not a mere name given to us by someone. And there is no harm in using it? For if Ghani can use it, we can use it as well.




1) Ok so you have proofs for what Greek Historians called us? :D

2) I don't have a problem with any name?

3) No, My Pakistani friends call me by my real name.

Greek historain called us with our real name.
pakhtun is our real name not pathan.

If you are indain mahajar with some link to pashtun then you are right to call yourself ,,pathan,,cus pashtuns will never accept you as a true pashtun.
worship altaap bhai and his gang leave pashtuns in peace.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Bacha khan advised to be burried in afghanistan to give a message of pashtun unity of lar aw bar.he was burried in a land given to him by dawood khan.That land is in afghanistan.
Wali khan himself is burried in occupied afghanistan/pashtunistan.
The entire pashtunland is part of loy pakhtunkhwa or loy afghanistan.
So you want pashtun to give their land to your punjoos?
Peshawar,mardan,nokhar,swaby,swat,queta,upper hazara are all part of loy pakhtunkhwa or loy afghanistan samething.
It is only a matter of time when your ,,lungmaar,,,punjabi will be kicked out.
About Ghani khan i told you that he was born in british era and that is not hard to understand why he use pathan.

That land belonged to him at the end of the day. Loy Afghanistan is what you extracted from it. If he meant that. Tell me where he said so? Not your interpretation of it.
No Punjabi rules/live in majority on a Pashtun land anywhere in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Get your facts straight so you can't possibly kick them out.
Abdul Ghani Khan was born in British Era the lamest excuse ever. You telling me that this family was affected by the Britishers they adopted their ideas or stuff? lmao!

You are pathan not pashtun cus pashtuns never like to be called by indian name.
You are living among indains so be proud pathan slave.
A pashtun is the name of honour and gerat.

You are proud of your hindo name and not your pashtu name.
a slave,s mind will always be slave

It's not that I like it or not. It's that you think it's WRONG! which I disagree to! I like the term Pakhtun more. To me this name thing is not even an issue as long as my people prosper.
A person who would have hardly step foot on a Pakhtun land is telling me that I am a slave. I've lived my entire life on Pakhtun land. My roots with my culture and tradition are much stronger than yours. I'm not a slave of any false propaganda no matter which one it is.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Greek historain called us with our real name.
pakhtun is our real name not pathan.

If you are indain mahajar with some link to pashtun then you are right to call yourself ,,pathan,,cus pashtuns will never accept you as a true pashtun.
worship altaap bhai and his gang leave pashtuns in peace.

If the Greeks called us Pakhtun/Pashtun than it's our real name. But if an Indian called us Pathan that's not. You're what? An authority in Pakhtu language? that you can tell us which is real and which is not.

Again, the problem of your likes the same. Go talk about my roots, tell me that somehow my blood line isn't pure and I am not a Pakhtun. And I don't have a right to call myself Pakhtun.

And I have said this here loud and clear on this vary forum many times and let me say it again, the school of thought you belong to and preach is no where to found in real life anywhere in Pakhtunkhwa. And if you will have this sort of behavior for us we don't give a damn!

[BarakzaiAbdali]

If the Greeks called us Pakhtun/Pashtun than it's our real name. But if an Indian called us Pathan that's not. You're what? An authority in Pakhtu language? that you can tell us which is real and which is not.

Again, the problem of your likes the same. Go talk about my roots, tell me that somehow my blood line isn't pure and I am not a Pakhtun. And I don't have a right to call myself Pakhtun.

And I have said this here loud and clear on this vary forum many times and let me say it again, the school of thought you belong to and preach is no where to found in real life anywhere in Pakhtunkhwa. And if you will have this sort of behavior for us we don't give a damn!

Shabaz he is correct in the sense that we need only to look at other oppressed races.

For example:
It is an unfortunate thing that in the US the black man is called "a nig-ger." It is a term I find disgusting. It finds its basis in the spanish word for "black."

Now in the US there were respected blacks like Malcolm X and then there are the faux business men of the modern era (e.g. Sean "Puffy" Combs and Jay-Z etc). Why is it that people respect Malcolm and sort of sneer and laugh at the other two? It is because he spoke clearly and understood his history and who he was. He didn't act like the product of slavery and oppression.

So now the black man in America is still very much on the receiving end of many disparities (for example they get some of the worst healthcare for both their own and for the system's reasons). Many point to Obama and say a black man is in the white house, but most understand that Obama's father was born abroad and was not someone who underwent the typical Afro American struggle and his mother was white.

And do you know what the blacks here say about the word "nig-ger"? They use it for eachother and on eachother in both the positive and negative sense. Their ignorant folks sometimes even try to justify why they can use that word that the white man used to degrade, insult, rape, and denigrate them for centuries:

http://africanamericanenglish.com/2010/10/22/why-black-people-can-use-the-n-word-a-perspective/

So now, why would you emulate that? Why would you take a term that other races used to malign and denigrate you that is not the word that our ancestors used for ourselves? Why would you want to act like an oppressed man and someone who is so ruled over and so lorded over by other races and people that he forgets his education elevates him to a higher level of dignity?

This is why each time that word Pathan is used you should correct people and say this is NOT the word we use for ourselves it was the word the british and the indian british colonials used for our people.

Otherwise, it seems to me that instead of imitating someone great like Malcolm X who only used it as a word of the times, you want to imitate this sort of mental slavery:

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Its very sad because I have seen license plates in New York and Jersey years ago with the word "Pathan" on mercedez benz just like those two people you see above... brandishing and flashing a term while the whole developed world is laughing at how they are now using the same word "the master" used to dehumanize them on each other.

[Smarty]

If the Greeks called us Pakhtun/Pashtun than it's our real name. But if an Indian called us Pathan that's not. You're what? An authority in Pakhtu language? that you can tell us which is real and which is not.

Again, the problem of your likes the same. Go talk about my roots, tell me that somehow my blood line isn't pure and I am not a Pakhtun. And I don't have a right to call myself Pakhtun.

And I have said this here loud and clear on this vary forum many times and let me say it again, the school of thought you belong to and preach is no where to found in real life anywhere in Pakhtunkhwa. And if you will have this sort of behavior for us we don't give a damn!

You are so proud of pathan identity, while the word is actually derogatory. Pathan means kidnapper. Your pakis have further *******ized the image of word pathan. Do google search this word, and some stupid and vulgar jokes are shown in results. Pathan word has become linked with "kocha" and "akhroat" ,and a comedian chowkidaar with big moustaches and mole on face who always talk like an idiot.
In my own dictionary "pathan" is beyghairat, kamasal, subservient, sell out and house negro version of pashtun.

[Kushan Prince]

If the Greeks called us Pakhtun/Pashtun than it's our real name. But if an Indian called us Pathan that's not. You're what? An authority in Pakhtu language? that you can tell us which is real and which is not.

Again, the problem of your likes the same. Go talk about my roots, tell me that somehow my blood line isn't pure and I am not a Pakhtun. And I don't have a right to call myself Pakhtun.

And I have said this here loud and clear on this vary forum many times and let me say it again, the school of thought you belong to and preach is no where to found in real life anywhere in Pakhtunkhwa. And if you will have this sort of behavior for us we don't give a damn!

You are missing the point completely shebz.

Herodotus mentioned (the key word being mentioned) a tribe of Aryans called "Pakthas" or Pactyans, but he did not name them that. Pashtun has translated to other empires and people in the form of different names, like Afghans to the persians and armenians, Pathans to the indians and Pactyan to the the greeks. For example the Assyrians "mentioned" the invading Arabs as "bedouins" from the desert in the 8th century yet the name Arab is much older and is derived from an ancestor from Yemen called "Yarub." The Arabs themselves were noted as Bedouins by their northern semitic brothers but called themselves "Arabs."

The point i am trying to make is that different people have been called different names by other ethnic groups throughout history. Just like we call indians regardless of religion "Hindowans" and punjabi pakis as "Tor Makh."

[Kushan Prince]

[MENTION=1772]BarakzaiAbdali[/MENTION]

Nas had used the word itself for political means as a way to remind the users of the harsh black slavery back in the old colinial America. He also wanted to make the world less deragotry so racism can be eliminated. This is what he says regarding the name;

I wanna make the word easy on mutha—-as’ ears,” he explained. “You see how white boys ain’t mad at ‘cracker’ ’cause it don’t have the same [sting] as ‘******’? I want ‘******’ to have less meaning [than] ‘cracker.’ With all the bullsh– that’s going on in the world, racism is at its peak. I wanna do the sh– that’s not being done. I wanna be the artist who ain’t out. I wanna make the music I wanna hear.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1572287/nas-explains-controversial-album-title-denies-reports-of-label-opposition/

[gadoonwal]

If the Greeks called us Pakhtun/Pashtun than it's our real name. But if an Indian called us Pathan that's not. You're what? An authority in Pakhtu language? that you can tell us which is real and which is not.

Again, the problem of your likes the same. Go talk about my roots, tell me that somehow my blood line isn't pure and I am not a Pakhtun. And I don't have a right to call myself Pakhtun.

And I have said this here loud and clear on this vary forum many times and let me say it again, the school of thought you belong to and preach is no where to found in real life anywhere in Pakhtunkhwa. And if you will have this sort of behavior for us we don't give a damn!

Since you have something missing in your mind so let me put it in simple words.
What name pashtuns use in daily life?
pathan or pakhtun?
what is the name of pakhtun area?
pathankhwa or pakhtunkhwa?

A 6 year child would know the name of his nation better then you.
The paki virus killed many qualities of pashtuns.You are the victim of this slavery system.
If you do not understand these simple words then kindly stop it there.