Your thoughts on Hazarewals?

[Kushan Prince]

I think people on this board are forgetting that "Punjabi" is a cultural term instead of an ethnic one. Anyone living in the Punjab region can be considered a Punjabi, including many Pashtuns who have migrated to Punjab and interrogated into the society.

Ex. Imran Khan and Jahanagir Khan

[Dhillon]

^ if you are pashtun, why would you care about jatts? almost all your posts are about punjabis

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[Karachi]

I think people on this board are forgetting that "Punjabi" is a cultural term instead of an ethnic one. Anyone living in the Punjab region can be considered a Punjabi, including many Pashtuns who have migrated to Punjab and interrogated into the society.

Ex. Imran Khan and Jahanagir Khan

True, but usually even those ones call themselves "pathans"

Have you ever heard Imran Khan calling himself punjabi?, even though he actually speaks some punjabi

similarly I know a family from Lahore who have been there for generations, yet still call themselves pathans, never punjabi

There is a clear (big) difference between the two people.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

My view:

Abbottabad k mausam aur bachiyo(hazarwal) k koi bharosa nahin :P

[Friends of Baloch]

Hindkowans are an Indic people and look like typical Hindus

Hazara best kumar village pharhari haripur - YouTube
Haripur Hazara, Dance Khumar in Shadi Haripur Hazara - YouTube
Haripur Hazara Best Dance in Yasir Durrani Wedding - YouTube
Talented Pakistani Singer of Haripur, Hazara - YouTube
Jora on wedding From Azhar Bahi (Muradabad HARIPUR) HAZARA - YouTube
Hazara Haripur khalabat Town Ship Urs Baba Syyed Sakhi Murad Hussain Shah Qadri Kazmi Al Mashhadi - YouTube
Mast Kumar in Pakistan Hazara Haripur (Pind Hasham Khan) - YouTube
Adil Awan wedding night party 01.mp4.Alluli haripur hazara - YouTube

[jankhan]

My view:

Abbottabad k mausam aur bachiyo(hazarwal) k koi bharosa nahin :P

like kashmiris ...

[tripledouble]

Hindkowans are an Indic people and look like typical Hindus[/SIZE]

So are you baloch, there is a big temple in Awaran and that's why many Baloch are Zikris.

Average Baloch looks like Abdul Qadeer and Lateef Johar, only few rich Baloch Sardars like KhairBaksh and his types look like psuedo-kurds

Typical Hindu-looking Baloch










[IMG]http://pious****s.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/baloch-fighters.jpg[/IMG]







This girl below looks like a Punjabi


This famous Baloch journalist looks like a Bengali i've seen



Even Rich Baloch Sardars can show an Punjabi appearance

Brahamdag Bugti


Hasil Bizenjo, related to "Father of the Baloch" Ghaus Bux Bizenjo

He looks Tamil





Hindu Baloch people



Baloch Temple





I also have some good news for you Kurdish wannabe, the Khan of Kalat is returning to Pakistan, now your Sardars are crapping their pants and fighting with eachother

[Dhillon]

So are you baloch, there is a big temple in Awaran and that's why many Baloch are Zikris.

Average Baloch looks like Abdul Qadeer and Lateef Johar, only few rich Baloch Sardars like KhairBaksh and his types look like psuedo-kurds

Typical Hindu-looking Baloch










[IMG]http://pious****s.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/baloch-fighters.jpg[/IMG]







This girl below looks like a Punjabi


This famous Baloch journalist looks like a Bengali i've seen



Even Rich Baloch Sardars can show an Punjabi appearance

Brahamdag Bugti


Hasil Bizenjo, related to "Father of the Baloch" Ghaus Bux Bizenjo

He looks Tamil





Hindu Baloch people



Baloch Temple





I also have some good news for you Kurdish wannabe, the Khan of Kalat is returning to Pakistan, now your Sardars are crapping their pants and fighting with eachother

One of my Hazara friends who used to live in Quetta said " I don't know what Punjabis and Balochis are fighting about they are both the same skin colour" ..... Balochs calling ridiculing other because of dark skin is completely retarded.

[Friends of Baloch]

What is most laughable about this smelly paki individual suffering from typical punjabi inferiority complex is that he thinks that he has discovered something new by desperately searching the internet for photos of Baloch to share, but he is just wasting his time thinking that these photos are weapons to be used. Baloch are proud of all these people. It is you punjabis that are not proud of yourselves and want the World to believe that you are "Mughals" instead of the Indians that you are.

Stupid paki.

Everybody already knows that before Baloch came to Balochistan that much of this vast land was inhabited by Dravidians and Hindus. Unlike self-deluding and self-denying punjabis, Baloch do not care about these things and are proud that they live in a land with such ancient history.

Baloch feels no shame in being compared to Dravidian, African or any human being. Baloch is only offended when compared with cheap, inferior pakis Pakis who have no culture, no identity, no history to call their own. Just a cheap fabricated people invented by the "Britishers". A confused, artificial and self-hating Indian people is what punjabis are.

Baloch are proud of being Baloch. It does not matter to Baloch if his remote ancestor thousands of years ago was local Dravidian or a nomad from Middle East or mix of anything. Baloch are a confederation of many tribes with diverse origins. Baloch is defined by his language, culture, social mores and honor. All things that a self-hating little paki doesnt have and will never understand.

Baloch dont care if one is Black, his pride and esteem is not rooted in these things that only inferior punjabis feel insecure about.

A dirt poor Baloch without proper shoes still has more pride and self-esteem in himself and in his identity as a Baloch than the wealthiest of punjabis who will still deny who and what he is and will seek to gain acceptance and respect from others by telling lies that he is of some kind of Persian or Mughal or of some other non-Hindu culture!

[tripledouble]

What is most laughable about this smelly paki individual suffering from typical punjabi inferiority complex is that he thinks that he has discovered something new by desperately searching the internet for photos of Baloch to share, but he is just wasting his time thinking that these photos are weapons to be used. Baloch are proud of all these people. It is you punjabis that are not proud of yourselves and want the World to believe that you are "Mughals" instead of the Indians that you are. [/SIZE]

Stupid paki.

Everybody already knows that before Baloch came to Balochistan that much of this vast land was inhabited by Dravidians and Hindus. Unlike self-deluding and self-denying punjabis, Baloch do not care about these things and are proud that they live in a land with such ancient history.

Baloch feels no shame in being compared to Dravidian, African or any human being. Baloch is only offended when compared with cheap, inferior pakis Pakis who have no culture, no identity, no history to call their own. Just a cheap fabricated people invented by the "Britishers". A confused, artificial and self-hating Indian people is what punjabis are.

Nice try, but "Balochistan" was never a country [MENTION=1234]Smarty[/MENTION] [MENTION=17875]Kushan[/MENTION]Prince you were always either a vessel of Afghanistan or a colony of British-India, and the few months Kalat became independent was only because of the British, without them you would; you want to alienate any ties to Sindh and Punjab but your ethnic groups only successes were in these provinces, where now more Baloch live than in actual Balochistan

Funny how you keeping insulting Punjabis, it's like you have some issues, I don't care what you say about Punjabis, they reveal your own insecurities, as a Hindko-speaking Tareen, you should be grateful than Pashtuns have not conquered Baloch lands yet, but when they will it be the end of your Zikri-Sardar occupation.

Baaz Washan

[Friends of Baloch]

Nice try, but "Balochistan" was never a country @Smarty @KushanPrince you were always either a vessel of Afghanistan or a colony of British-India, and the few months Kalat became independent was only because of the British, without them you would; you want to alienate any ties to Sindh and Punjab but your ethnic groups only successes were in these provinces, where now more Baloch live than in actual Balochistan

Funny how you keeping insulting Punjabis, it's like you have some issues, I don't care what you say about Punjabis, they reveal your own insecurities, as a Hindko-speaking Tareen, you should be grateful than Pashtuns have not conquered Baloch lands yet, but when they will it be the end of your Zikri-Sardar occupation.

Baaz Washan

Smelly punjabi, do not talk about things which you do not know.

Balochistan is hundreds of years old. It is the name of a country recognized by Babur is his Baburnama. It was recognized by Nader Shah as the name of a country and it was recognized by the British as the name of a country.

Learn the difference between a country and a state in the context of history, you stupid paki!

Baloch are historically a self-governing tribal confederation of many tribes and sub-tribes. Afghans have the same social and political history of being a confederatrion of self-governing tribes. Afghanistan was the name of a country long before this country became an actual state.

It is your **** hole called Bundjab that has never been anything but the most raped and conquered region of India. Not even a country, it has always been recognized throughout history as being part of Hindustan. Even the name punjab is foreign imposed on you by Mughals and the borders of this ****ty Bunjab were made up by the "Britishers" only in the 1850s.

[kanishka]

I think people on this board are forgetting that "Punjabi" is a cultural term instead of an ethnic one. Anyone living in the Punjab region can be considered a Punjabi, including many Pashtuns who have migrated to Punjab and interrogated into the society.

Ex. Imran Khan and Jahanagir Khan

To corret you, Pure Punjabis come from the races of Indian Aryans..

This includes Jat, Rajput, Gujjar,

with many smaller tribes or subdivisions like Minhas, Rangar, and this and that... which makes up 80% of Punjabis as well as Sindhi people too. These races overlap between Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat and other regions of the indian subcontinent...

plus, alot of indian muslims and pakistanis deliberatly change their identity to something else by claiming to be Sayyid which can further skew that data...

Pashtuns, Turks,Persians and Arabs that have mixed into the desi culture are small....

[kanishka]

True, but usually even those ones call themselves "pathans"

Have you ever heard Imran Khan calling himself punjabi?, even though he actually speaks some punjabi

similarly I know a family from Lahore who have been there for generations, yet still call themselves pathans, never punjabi

There is a clear (big) difference between the two people.

that's because they kept marrying among Pashtuns when living in Punjab despite forgetting Pakhto. If they started to mix with other punjabis alot more, then they'd no longer be considered pashtuns. Being Pashtun is a racial or genealogical term too, not just linguistic...