Are Tajiks really Arab?

[Kushan Prince]

Salaamuna i come in peace.

I just wanted to understand something of the origins of the tajiks and how i heard that some are rumoured to be of arab decent. I did some research and found that Tajik is the corruption of the word "Tazi" which literally meant Arab and that it was later applied to iranic people by the turks. This is the most obvious one. I also found out that 31% of tajiks from Dushanbe are J2 which is Semitic in origin. http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/12/...nd-tajiks.html

Also this quote but the website itself seems a bit unreliable but whatever.

But, although mainly of Iranian stock, with light complexion and regular features, the Tajiks claim Arab descent, regarding the district about Bagdad as their primeval home, and considering themselves the descendants of the Arabs who overran Central Asia in the first century of the Hejira

http://www.theodora.com/encyclopedia/t/tajik.html

Also something i found very interesting about their clothing;

Rumol is men’s cotton waist kerchief, decorated with embroidery of various colors - by basma stitch or double-sided satin stitch. Patterns of floriated nature resembling Arab script predominate mainly on them.

Now lets look at some similarity between the clothing;









Compare it to this;





Looks very similar to the arabic keffyieh.


I think it is a coincidence but i don't know but after finding all these similarities and what not i am really wondering if this is true, maybe Al Hanif wasn't really trolling when he said Tajiks are Arabs and there could be some unknown link between the two we don't know about.

Also there is a town called Arab, Tajikistan in the sughd province. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab,_Tajikistan

BTW this is NOT a troll thread, i am 100% serious and and want opinions and facts to support or refute what i am saying thanks.

[Kushan Prince]

Some of them look a lot alike like these 2 women.

Tajik lady



Arab Woman



They look very much alike people!

[kanishka]

Some of them look a lot alike like these 2 women.

Tajik lady



Arab Woman



They look very much alike people!

Stop being racist, you should be banned.


Nice to pull of Tajik meaning Tazi.

No, Tajik just means non-turkic and non-arab

however a few Tajiks are putatively of Arab descent..

Look up Sheberghan arabs

and you seriously need to make a new thread called

"Khorasani ethnic groups of Arab descent"
not ALL tajiks are arabs... most are same like Pashtoons.

[Kushan Prince]

Stop being racist, you should be banned.


Nice to pull of Tajik meaning Tazi.

No, Tajik just means non-turkic and non-arab

however a few Tajiks are putatively of Arab descent..

Look up Sheberghan arabs

and you seriously need to make a new thread called

"Khorasani ethnic groups of Arab descent"
not ALL tajiks are arabs... most are same like Pashtoons.

How i am being racist you idiot? i opened of this thread FROM what i heard from people and tajiks themselves. How am being racist when i have tajik family members? your a goof i want some concrete intelligent answers not trolls like you who get angry because of an opinion.

And the word tajik IS connected to Arab you raging douchebag, look;

It is generally accepted that the origin of the word Tajik is Middle Persian Tāzīk "Arab" (New Persian: Tazi), or an Iranian (Sogdian or Parthian) cognate word.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajik_people

Stay off my threads.

[Baraki]

Since Tajiks are really just a combination of many different groups bundled into one "Tajik ethnic group" I am sure some of them descend from Arabs.

[kanishka]

How i am being racist you idiot? i opened of this thread FROM what i heard from people and tajiks themselves. How am being racist when i have tajik family members? your a goof i want some concrete intelligent answers not trolls like you who get angry because of an opinion.

And the word tajik IS connected to Arab you raging douchebag, look;

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajik_people

Stay off my threads.

cause the name of this thread is misleading.

you said "Are tajiiks really arab?"

you're implying that those north of the Aryan Pashtoons are Persianized semetic people.... that is a huge change....

[kanishka]

the clostest race to Pashtoons are Tajiks.....

if most of them were Arab then and since Iranian Persians are so far away, Pashtuns and Balochis have to suck up to the punjabais as their bros....

[Baraki]

Ok I just read the wiki of tajik people and it seems to have a bit of a pro-tajik anti-pashtun tone lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajik_people

Tajiks are the oldest ethnic group in Afghanistan. The Tajiks are mostly Sunni Muslims and speak Persian. They live predominantly in the north-east and in the west. Some also live in Kabul. Because they make up the build of Afghanistan's educated elite and possess considerable wealth, they have significant political influence. Their influence lies in predominantly in the government ministries, public services and trade bodies. Those living in rural regions engage in agriculture and herding.

Tajiks live in may sections of Afghanistan. They are also the principle inhabitants of the republic of Tajikistan across the northern border. They are often called Farsiwans, meaning "Persian-speaking". Slender and light skinned, the Tajiks have aquiline noses and usually black hair, although occasionally red and blond. It is possible that tajiks were living in this area before the Aryan invasion.


There are several important concentrations of Tajiks in Afghanistan. They are town dwelling traders, skilled artisans and farmers, may of them prosperous enough to be regarded as middle class. Because they have settled in the towns, they have replaced tribal organisation with village orientation and a strong sense of community loyalty.


The Tajiks are the second largest group after the Pashtuns. They are also the Pashtuns' closest rivals for power and prestige. They have survived the Soviet occupation in a much less fragmented state than Pashtuns, thus putting them in a better position to challenge Pashtun dominance.[16]

[DaZahroJaam.]

quiet the anthropologist, aren't you??

[RevolutionThroughReason]

For someone who thinks that Philosophical discourse is for people who have too much time on your hands, you sure spend a lot of time on racial/ethnic garbage more so than any healthy human would do. Get out more and get better arguments.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Since Tajiks are really just a combination of many different groups bundled into one "Tajik ethnic group" I am sure some of them descend from Arabs.

This is most correct, Most of the Tajiks of today were Soghdians, Bactrians, Khwarzemis who became displaced due to the Mongol invasion and because Dari was a regional linga franca forgot their old languages and identified themselves as Farsiwan. In truth they're of Non-Persian origins.

The descendants of Arabs are all over, even amongst Pashtuns. However, they're far and few between.

[Kushan Prince]

For someone who thinks that Philosophical discourse is for people who have too much time on your hands, you sure spend a lot of time on racial/ethnic garbage more so than any healthy human would do. Get out more and get better arguments.

So morons on this forum can open threads about pashtuns being turks, jews etc. but i can't open one mislay thread about our introverted neighbours? the same people who also seem to be wandering around on this forum.

I'd rather learn about anthropology then bang my head on the wall trying to figure out whether i exist or not. Now get lost you troll.

[Kushan Prince]

the clostest race to Pashtoons are Tajiks.....

if most of them were Arab then and since Iranian Persians are so far away, Pashtuns and Balochis have to suck up to the punjabais as their bros....

Actually the closest race to pashtuns would be Ossetians.

Now back to discussing tajiks..

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You making threads like this IS trolling

[Kushan Prince]

You making threads like this IS trolling

So Al Hanif does it yet he doesn't get called a "troll." Great logic mr. herati!