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  • #16
    She is one of my dad's favorites singers. And he said that she was killed by the Talibans.
    yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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    • #17
      He died in Russia and was burried in Kabul.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #18
        ^^I heard he died from the overdose of drugs

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        • #19
          She was a very beautiful Pakhtana!
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            ^^I heard he died from the overdose of drugs
            I dont know if it was drugs or alcohol that killed him. But I remember his sons. We are sort of like friends back then as kids.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              She is one of my dad's favorites singers. And he said that she was killed by the Talibans.
              Does your father believe in time traveling?
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #22
                She was killed by the servents of Pakistan. That's 100% true. I don't know though whether she was killed by hizbe islami or some other servents of panjab. Those of you who doubt that she was killed by islamist can you tell me if she was alive today which political forces would want her death?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Nazar View Post
                  So none of you know for sure what actually happened to her. This is strange. How can someone just 'disappear' and nobody knows about him/her. We probably need some investigative Afghan journalist to interview the relatives of all those Afghans which died mysteriously during the revolution and beyond and find out the truth. People like Ahmad Zahir, Esmat (Communist turned Mujahiddin commander in the south), Bakht Zamina, Hafizullah Amin and many more. Could make a pretty valuable book comprised of the causes of the deaths of these people.
                  Amin was killed by soviet commandos and Ahmed Zahir was killed by afghan communists. He was very vocal against he communists back in those days and esmat was more of a drug dealer than an insurgent or a gov loyalist.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Khanwali View Post
                    She was killed by the servents of Pakistan. That's 100% true. I don't know though whether she was killed by hizbe islami or some other servents of panjab. Those of you who doubt that she was killed by islamist can you tell me if she was alive today which political forces would want her death?
                    Usually these things are done by family members. The political avenue is just a scapegoat. I doubt the insurgent groups cared about her since she wasn't active in politics.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      Usually these things are done by family members. The political avenue is just a scapegoat. I doubt the insurgent groups cared about her since she wasn't active in politics.
                      Come on man, these insurgents were so ignorant and stupid that they were killing even people for wearing jeans and would labal him as kafeer.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        Amin was killed by soviet commandos and Ahmed Zahir was killed by afghan communists. He was very vocal against he communists back in those days and esmat was more of a drug dealer than an insurgent or a gov loyalist.
                        Amin was killed by Russian, there is no doubt about this since both his family and the russian who had taked part on the operation had confirmed this.

                        Ahmad zahir was not killed by communists, this is another baseless lie which has been spread by some parchamis who hates khalqis and blamed khalqis for killing of Ahmad zahir. As matter of fact khalqis released ahmad zahir from prison where he was serving his time for killing one of his wives. Ahmad zahir died a traffic accedent in salang pass while driving drunk. The people who were with him at the trafic accedent confiremed that version. His family and some supports are trying to make of him a political figure hoping to cover the real story but the fact is that he was a good singer but he was a womenizer and loved alcahol so this two take his life.

                        Esmat Muslim was Mojahedin commander who joined the government and he was given liberity to do whatever he would liked to do without any kind of presecution. He was involved in smuggling goods from spin boldak and was earning lots of money from his business. He died in prague due to over consumption of alcohol so his death was natural as well.

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                        • #27
                          Khanwali are you a Khalqi?
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Khanwali View Post
                            Come on man, these insurgents were so ignorant and stupid that they were killing even people for wearing jeans and would labal him as kafeer.
                            That is more likely a myth, do you have any sources that back up your claim. Plus those recent targeting of female peshwari singers have been confirmed it was done by family members when it was initially reported that it was done by insurgents. The "damon" atmosphere has qualities that questions the ghyrat of related male individuals so in Pashtun culture that aspect of it exists.

                            You could be right about Zahir, but his family blames the commies for his death and that accident was staged. They could be covering up his drunkness.

                            About esmat, the guy had kidnapped Khad agents and even attacked a loya girga convened by Najib while claiming to be a gov loyalist. The guy attacked anyone who threatened his drug trade much like the drug dealers today.
                            Last edited by khushal; 07-29-2013, 07:29 AM.

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                            • #29
                              :D

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                                That is more likely a myth, do you have any sources that back up your claim. Plus those recent targeting of female peshwari singers have been confirmed it was done by family members when it was initially reported that it was done by insurgents. The "damon" atmosphere has qualities that questions the ghyrat of related male individuals so in Pashtun culture that aspect of it exists.

                                You could be right about Zahir, but his family blames the commies for his death and that accident was staged. They could be covering up his drunkness.

                                About esmat, the guy had kidnapped Khad agents and even attacked a loya girga convened by Najib while claiming to be a gov loyalist. The guy attacked anyone who threatened his drug trade much like the drug dealers today.
                                Just go to some part of Afghanistan which is controlled by taliban or some other dark and close minded islamist wearing a jeans and see what will happen to you.

                                Of couse the family of ahmad zahir wouldn't mention what was the real reason behind the traffic accedent. Would anyone especially afghans would say that their son died because he was driving under influnece of alcahol with two under age panjshire *****s from kate parwan?

                                Asmet Muslim was giving some liberities because the government need him and the support of achikzai tribe which controlled spin boldak but the government back then wasn't like karzai's government that they would allow a warlord to do anything that he would liked to do.

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