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i just asking myself how long will it takes till some users will start to attack youOriginally posted by Khostai View Post
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Secular Afghans cant even express their views in Afghanistan without armed bodyguards around them.
Lets take you as an example, you can't even visit your own village and talk in public and stand for what you believe in.
Secularists are living in a fantasy world. Dream on you khalqi infidel.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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There is a very tiny number of these so called secularists currently in Afghanistan. Most of them are former (non-Pashtun) communists and their next generation, who unable to sell their Marxist ideologies anymore, now seem to be inspired by their historical Zoroastrian roots. I have a couple of them as my friends. They will bring up the suicide bombings, Alqaeda and Taliban in every single conversation about Islam, even if you are talking to them about the basics of Islam like Lmonz and Rozha. Besides being secularists, these people are extremely Persian nationalists and anti-Pashtun as well."Da bado sakha sha zezhi, da sho sakha washa zezhi"
- Hajjanai Adeh
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The thing is, Pashtuns as an ethnic group are unique in the entire world. There are no Pashtun Christians or Pashtun Hindus. All ethnic Pashtuns are Muslim.Originally posted by Nazar View PostThere is a very tiny number of these so called secularists currently in Afghanistan. Most of them are former (non-Pashtun) communists and their next generation, who unable to sell their Marxist ideologies anymore, now seem to be inspired by their historical Zoroastrian roots. I have a couple of them as my friends. They will bring up the suicide bombings, Alqaeda and Taliban in every single conversation about Islam, even if you are talking to them about the basics of Islam like Lmonz and Rozha. Besides being secularists, these people are extremely Persian nationalists and anti-Pashtun as well.
We do have many apostates due to communism and secularism, but this is a modern phenomenon.
The reason why Pakistani, Iranian and Afghan secularists specifically hate Pashtuns is because Pashtun identity is synonymous to islam and Islamism.
This is why many apostates are living in constant agony because they cannot reconcile their identity with their beliefs.
When you see apostates and secularists constantly ranting and trolling or resorting to profanity etc is because they are suffering mentally from their condition.
In reality they are a very sad and pathetic group of people.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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This divide is happening all across the muslim world, on one hand people are becoming very extremists, on the other hand they are also becoming very secular. I think both of these forces have lost touch with reality and what Islam teaches. This is a very dangerous time for the muslim world, I think a war between secular and extremists is imminent, unfortunately I predict a lot more blood shed
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Interesting video.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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Maybe you lack critical thinking skills? Me saying it is interesting could have many meanings to it, most of which is my opinion wrora.Originally posted by ډګروال View Postcare to tell us what exactly is interesting about this video?
all i get from the video is a delusional fifth columner trying to deny himself the facts and ignore ground realities.
Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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You shouldn't be proud about the fact the secular afghans can't express himself freely in Afghanistan. There is nothing positive about this. Only brain washed panjabized moron see it as something to be proud about. Normal people are for a society where everyone is allowed to express their opinion.Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostSecular Afghans cant even express their views in Afghanistan without armed bodyguards around them.
Lets take you as an example, you can't even visit your own village and talk in public and stand for what you believe in.
Secularists are living in a fantasy world. Dream on you khalqi infidel.
Secularism is not a fantasy. It is reality in many countries and it will be a reality in muslim world including in Afghanistan soon.
At last, you should wash your mouth 33 times before takng the name of khalqis who were true sons of afghanistan
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"Marxists" are not the only people who advocate for a secular society, a society where the matters of state are separated from religion. If you look at most developed countries of the world all of them are secular states although they are not communist countries.Originally posted by Nazar View PostThere is a very tiny number of these so called secularists currently in Afghanistan. Most of them are former (non-Pashtun) communists and their next generation, who unable to sell their Marxist ideologies anymore, now seem to be inspired by their historical Zoroastrian roots. I have a couple of them as my friends. They will bring up the suicide bombings, Alqaeda and Taliban in every single conversation about Islam, even if you are talking to them about the basics of Islam like Lmonz and Rozha. Besides being secularists, these people are extremely Persian nationalists and anti-Pashtun as well.
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But Afghanistan the advocates of secularism are predominantly people with either marxist inclination or a communist past.Originally posted by Khanwali View Post"Marxists" are not the only people who advocate for a secular society, a society where the matters of state are separated from religion. If you look at most developed countries of the world all of them are secular states although they are not communist countries.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Those who are crazy enough to believe that it can be done are the one who do it. Secular state of pakistan might be a dream today but dreams do come true. The idea is already planted .People die, ideas don't . Extremists can kill one apostate but many more will rise .Ideas are bulletproof ! The idea of everybody having the right of living his/her life according to will can not die .
As for anti pashtun,I am against them too .Anti pakistanis ? I am against them too .
Let's get this straight that the jinnah was more of a liberal too ! He'd hang out with ladies, enjoy wine and have dogs as pets(dogs are not allowed in islam) so yah...the very idea of formation of an islamic state by an un-islamic or hypocrite is flawed. I don't have problems with muslims or islam I just want them not interfering in my unislamic life ..is that too much to ask for ? Why does it offend you that I do not follow the preachings of mohammad ? Crazy world ,isn't it ? As for when the times this land will ask for red WE'LL GIVE IT RED !
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