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  • #16
    Originally posted by Killzai View Post
    kulsum saifullah is khattak???? i never knew that i remeber them saying they couldnt understand khattak dialect and whenevr they spoke pashto they sounded peshawari except certain words like "chena" for sit down, "nghan" for naan and also some others like "raisa" instead of raasha but overall they spoke kheen dialect thats true. they are all very tall from what ive seen and their mother told me that she wore the shuttlecock burqa when they went to the village. i saw some pics of them in their village wearing traditional clothes (i think they had chadar, interestingly my other friend from d.i. khan always wears it, hes from kundi tribe and he is a real killiwal pashtun with ak47s and everything but he is also from a powerful family [i think])
    kalsum saifullah is daughter of aslam khattak...they are quite mixed for instance wife of anwar saifullah is daughter of ghulam ishaq khan, former president of pakistan.......i have to say you had interesting company in pakistan, are you from a rich afghan family? You people were staying in bannu is'nt?

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    • #17
      And let me tell you another interesting thing...kundi are marwats by origin, now functions as separate tribe.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Killzai View Post
        thats why they speak the same dialect
        Yes and they also look same like marwats....on the other hand bhittanis are different, like typical hill tribes they are sur speen...shorter than marwats but more chaparr (broad)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Killzai View Post
          Marwats are orange/golden skin and tall from what i noticed Where do bhittanis live? Ive met some people from multan side claiming to be bhittani and they were punjabi speaking, maybe they were originally bhittani then moved to punjab or something
          Bhittanis live in F.R tank and F.R lakki, semi-tribal agencies........those orange/golden appearances of marwats are due to extreme sunny and hot conditions....wazirs of domail and FR Bannu also have same complexations....khattaks of karak also look like this....though unlike wazirs and marwats , khattaks are of medium height...while bannuchis are noticeable for being very short.....all the tribes in southern districts and FATA are distinct and relatively pure but in areas north of peshawer tribes becomes mixed and you cant tell them apart..

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Killzai View Post
            Yeah i know wazirs and maseeds are lighter, so are many yousafzais and other mountain tribes but desert pashtuns are better lol I mean in general i prefer southern pashtuns, their accent, their traditions, they stick to it and dont try to be modern like the northern pashtuns of peshawar valley Also are bannuchi pure pashtuns? Their language is very hard
            Bannuchis are distinct but not pure. The true bannuchis are descendants of shiatak and bano but they have absorbed lot of other people. It is said that 10% of them are syeds, there are lot of awans among them , even yousafzais and durranis,...khattaks, ....the whole mixture is called bannuchi....if you see a tall and fair skinned good looking man in bannu then your first guess should be wazir....lot of wazirs in bannu but due to their pride, they seldom intermarry with bannuchis

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Killzai View Post
              Yeah i know wazirs and maseeds are lighter, so are many yousafzais and other mountain tribes but desert pashtuns are better lol

              I mean in general i prefer southern pashtuns, their accent, their traditions, they stick to it and dont try to be modern like the northern pashtuns of peshawar valley

              Also are bannuchi pure pashtuns? Their language is very hard
              Banunnchis are pure pashtun. Their dialect of Pashto is different and is hard to understand kind of like Wazirwola. The Ormuri's are also pashtuns who speak a different language closely related to Pashto.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                You have not seen them! Your bannuchi knowledge comes from the internet.


                And wazirwola is not difficukt, i know that dialect but bannisi is somethig else

                Ormuris are their own nation, they are related to pashtuns but are not pashtuns. They were around before pashtun tribes like karlani and they helped raise some karlan or other orphan child of qais according to the legend i think
                Actually no. We have a Bannuchi member on here so asking him would be your best bet. As for the Ormuri's they are part of the Karlan Pashtuns, one of Qais 5 sons so they are indeed very Pashtun.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                  Anyone can say they are anything on the internet

                  I never recall a real bannu nigga here andi have been on here longer than anyone

                  Theres some bannusi member with that username but he seems fake

                  Ormuris raised karlan, they are not part of karlan tribes. If anything, ormurid are the karland step fathers.
                  Qais also had adopted sons so what you are saying might make sense. However you have to understand that not all pashtuns speak Pashto just like not all Native Americans speak one language but are culturally and genticly the same.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                    Native americans were not culturally the same.



                    Anyway, read this:


                    "In his infancy he became an orphan and after losing his family he alone survived and was adopted by the Ormur Tribe. The tribe gave him shelter & protection & raised him like their own son. When he reached a marriageable age, the chief of the Urmar Tribe made Karlan his son in law."[3] But actually He is not the son of Ghurghusht nor Ormur.[4]
                    Hmm interesting quote, where did you find this from?
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                      I have heard that wazirs and bannisees dont get along and something called kanjarh lol i think there are also many hindus and sikhs along with other punjabis like you said awans and syed living in banni gul But that language man its not pashto! They call each other "trayrzaya" cousin like how peshawaris say marra
                      Bannuchis and marwats also dont get along. Khattaks are not liked by any one lol..these are tribal jealousis or rivalries, in distant places like peshawer we prefer to have company of each due to being gawandan.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                        Lol i am going to say this here, someone in peshawar told me: Bhang ba largay na shi khattak ba sarray na shi But yeah i can see how you all would be toegther in peshawar or other cities
                        Khattak ta cha tura jangida ta warkrra, dou ghwarstak pa shoro krray (some one give sword to khattak to use it for fight, he started dancing with it) lol

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                        • #27
                          you complain about pakistanies and the rest of the world calling pashtuns barbaric, illiterate and what not while you yourselves pass your time by degrading each other. how inspiring..whatever happened to standing up for and taking pride in each other??
                          truth is chi pa pukhtano bande d khudai qahar nazel shawey. you don't need enemies.. it's just a matter of time before you all wipe each other out from the surface of this planet.

                          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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