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  • #31
    Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
    u see... afghans don't come only in pashtoon form... ...

    afghans are tajik, hazara, uzbak, pashayee, noristani, sikh and many more.

    if u respect and love afghans you should be able to take any afghan citizen to dinner or coffe and shoot anyone who points finger at that person...

    the beauty of afghanistan is in having all different ethnic groups that live there... its a melting post of different culture... all very beautiful !
    Yes, the modern state of Afghanistan is multi-ethnic. Historically, however, "Afghanistan" had always been a Pashtun country, empire or state or whatever you wanna call it. Right now, two-thirds or more of actual Afghans live under the state of Pakistan (where they comprise a paltry 15% of the total population), that's why the modern state of Afghanistan seems like an ethnically diverse political entity.

    My dream is to see a state where Pashtuns form an overwhelming majority and live freely like the Hobbits of Middle-Earth.
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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    • #32
      Never going 2 happen! Much as Id like the same but states based on ethnicity can not survive, same can be said of religion etc
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
        u see... afghans don't come only in pashtoon form... ...

        afghans are tajik, hazara, uzbak, pashayee, noristani, sikh and many more.

        if u respect and love afghans you should be able to take any afghan citizen to dinner or coffe and shoot anyone who points finger at that person... (not that i really want u to shoot anyone, but just sayin)

        the beauty of afghanistan is in having all different ethnic groups that live there... its a melting post of different culture... all very beautiful !
        Tajiks, Hazara, Uzbak hate us pashtuns.

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        • #34
          Pashtuns west of the durran line are becoming farsified and prefer farsi 2 pashtu ( Ive met ppl who are pashtun but can only spk dari) and those east of the line are becoming desified (ive met pashtuns who can only spk urdu) a big joke!
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
            wrong.... the term afghan was only granted very recently 2 those ethnicities you mentioned and then only on a nationality basis... pashtuns are ethnic afghans those grps are nationality afghans.... One cld say the same abt pakistan for pakistani is only a nationality term... BTW I dnt support pakistan!
            whatever they are granted the name for... nationality base or whatever. they are AFGHAN in afghanistan and from afghanistan.....

            ethnic afghan name is a different term... isn't ever pakistani pashtoon supposed to call himself afghan? because i thought afghan is a term used for pashtoons... then why they dont?

            Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
            cast your mind 2 when they were slaughtering pashtuns
            don't put words in my mouth... i never said i supported that ... good bad exists in every community...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
              Tajiks, Hazara, Uzbak hate us pashtuns.
              no they dont. its pakistani propoganda.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                Never going 2 happen! Much as Id like the same but states based on ethnicity can not survive, same can be said of religion etc
                I agree that a state based on religion cannot survive but why ethnicity? As far as I know, the modern state system was made to accommodate different ethnic groups into single states. Poland for the Poles, England for the English, Ireland for the Irish, France for the French and so on....
                "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                • #38
                  Im afraid they do,.... even now northern allience made up of those said proud patriotic afghans as u put it are on a rampage raping and killing fellow pashtun afghans.,... as for **** pashtuns not calling themselves afghan whthere they do or dont they will always be afghan by birth more thn can be said for farsi zubaan
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                    I agree that a state based on religion cannot survive but why ethnicity? As far as I know, the modern state system was made to accommodate different ethnic groups into single states. Poland for the Poles, England for the English, Ireland for the Irish, France for the French and so on....
                    Migration and this day its more rampant.... mutiethnicity is the way forward now
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                    • #40
                      Amna is right. The whole Pak-Afghan / Afghan-Pak stuff is just political and is harming us.

                      We're one, no doubt about it!

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                      • #41
                        plus if you put your farsi zuban "afghans" before pashtuns regardless of where they are frm be it swat etc,.... how does that make you a nationalist assuming you are one? forgive me if your not... its just a question
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                          Migration and this day its more rampant.... mutiethnicity is the way forward now
                          Perhaps for Europe, where people are civilized but it's a jungle out here. Even then, multi-ethnicity results in reactions from the other side - the BNP, the Austrian far-right parties, Geert Wilders and his bunch of hate-mongers, etc, etc...
                          "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                          "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                          • #43
                            they are Tajik and hail from tajikistan... uzbecs are uzbecs and hail from uzbecistan.... go figure!
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                              Perhaps for Europe, where people are civilized but it's a jungle out here. Even then, multi-ethnicity results in reactions from the other side - the BNP, the Austrian far-right parties, Geert Wilders and his bunch of hate-mongers, etc, etc...
                              U will get that everywhere.... I am British in terms of nationality I am not english i.e anglo saxon
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                              • #45
                                yaara khpal mulk khpal eh, no matter where you are you will always be a foreign, even if you get a british passport you are still a foreign.

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