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    That author of badal the revenge of thirst or some thing like that, used to hide his background whenever some one used to ask him. On defence.pk he is clearly declaring that he is an indian mohajir......we have to give toramana some credit in correctly identifying him as an indic, here is his post,
    I am by birth a muhajir. My family may or may not have Pashtun links though I suspect we are hiding them due to Muhajir (MQM) chauvinism. Pir Roshan may be an ancestor from my mothers side. We are from the Ansari branch decended right from the Ansars who provided . Abdullah Ansari is an ancestor. This is my mothers side. We formed the firangi mahal house in lucknow. From there we came here upon partition and have many stories of being raped, killed, tortured at the hands of Hindu and Sikh mobs. We are supposed to be muhajirs. In my love for Pashtuns I eventually started taking classes and tried to adopt the Pashtun race having a deep admiration for Pashtuns. I have struggled with Sindhi as well.
    http://www.defence.pk/forums/nationa...ml#post3691431


    Note that ansari is a low-caste of indian muslims, he is trying to connect himself with pir roshan a burki. This is common among indic muslims to have low self-esteem and almost every one of them connect himself to some foreign ancestry.



    Last edited by Michin Khel; 12-11-2012, 10:21 PM.

  • #2
    Nice Find Luffy, I was smelling his nonsense from miles away.
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • #3
      Let the kid Write!!! Fiction is fiction, if he could write a novel that's impressive enough.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Luffy View Post
        That author of badal the revenge of thirst or some thing like that, used to hide his background whenever some one used to ask him. On defence.pk he is clearly declaring that he is an indian mohajir......we have to give toramana some credit in correctly identifying him as an indic, here is his post,
        http://www.defence.pk/forums/nationa...ml#post3691431


        Note that ansari is a low-caste of indian muslims, he is trying to connect himself with pir roshan a burki. This is common among indic muslims to have low self-esteem and almost every one of them connect himself to some foreign ancestry.




        and Abdullah Ansari was a Herati Tajik , not Pashtun
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • #5
          The wierd thing was he kept saying: "You will all be surprised when you find out who I am and then you will be sorry and stunned."

          I was waiting for some huge surprise like it being Obama or Karzai or something.
          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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          • #6
            the poor chap, seems very uncertain about himself.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by luffy View Post
              that author of badal the revenge of thirst or some thing like that, used to hide his background whenever some one used to ask him. On defence.pk he is clearly declaring that he is an indian mohajir......we have to give toramana some credit in correctly identifying him as an indic, here is his post,
              http://www.defence.pk/forums/nationa...ml#post3691431


              note that ansari is a low-caste of indian muslims, he is trying to connect himself with pir roshan a burki. This is common among indic muslims to have low self-esteem and almost every one of them connect himself to some foreign ancestry.





              بہت خوب! گریٹ ورک مروتہ!!!۔اچھے جا رہے ہو۔ایسے ہی دوسروں کی کردار کشی کرتے رہو۔بہت آگے جاؤ گے۔ ویسے آپ جیسے اور اس فورم کے اور بہت سارے "عظیم" تبصرہ نگار دنیا میں صرف اسی کام کے لیے تشریف لائے ہیں ۔ادب کی دنیا سے واقف ہیں؟ لیکن سیاست سے وقت ملے تب نا!!۔جناب ایسا شائد ہی ہوا ہو کہ
              کسی ٖغیر عرب لکھاری نے کوئی عربی ناول لکھا تو اسے کہا جائے کہ تم کیوں عرب کلچر پر لکھتے ہو تم تو عجمی ہو!۔ایسا کب ہوا کہ کوئی انگریز ایشیائی تاریخ پر قلم اٹھائے اور اسے کہا گیا ہو کہ تم کیوں
              ایشائی تاریخ پر قلم کشائی کرتے ہو تم تو ہم میں سے ہو ہی نہیں ؟ ایک فرنگی ہو!۔
              مگر یہاں جانے کونسا غرور کا سودا سر میں سمایا ہے کہ فضولیات میں سر کھپائی کرتے ہیں ۔خود تو ادب کی دنیا سے کبھی گزر بھی نہیں ہوا ہوتا اور دوسروں پر انگلیاں اٹھاتے نہیں تھکتے!۔
              مختصراً دوسرے تو ویسے ہی گئے گزرے ہیں یہاں مگر تم سے یہ امید نہیں تھی!۔

              If you want to kill somebody conquer his heart, then leave slowly and leave them between " Death and Madness"... !

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              • #8
                The wierd thing was he kept saying: "You will all be surprised when you find out who I am and then you will be sorry and stunned."

                I was waiting for some huge surprise like it being Obama or Karzai or something.
                lololololololololololololololol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by arooj khan View Post

                  بہت خوب! گریٹ ورک مروتہ!!!۔اچھے جا رہے ہو۔ایسے ہی دوسروں کی کردار کشی کرتے رہو۔بہت آگے جاؤ گے۔ ویسے آپ جیسے اور اس فورم کے اور بہت سارے "عظیم" تبصرہ نگار دنیا میں صرف اسی کام کے لیے تشریف لائے ہیں ۔ادب کی دنیا سے واقف ہیں؟ لیکن سیاست سے وقت ملے تب نا!!۔جناب ایسا شائد ہی ہوا ہو کہ
                  کسی ٖغیر عرب لکھاری نے کوئی عربی ناول لکھا تو اسے کہا جائے کہ تم کیوں عرب کلچر پر لکھتے ہو تم تو عجمی ہو!۔ایسا کب ہوا کہ کوئی انگریز ایشیائی تاریخ پر قلم اٹھائے اور اسے کہا گیا ہو کہ تم کیوں
                  ایشائی تاریخ پر قلم کشائی کرتے ہو تم تو ہم میں سے ہو ہی نہیں ؟ ایک فرنگی ہو!۔
                  مگر یہاں جانے کونسا غرور کا سودا سر میں سمایا ہے کہ فضولیات میں سر کھپائی کرتے ہیں ۔خود تو ادب کی دنیا سے کبھی گزر بھی نہیں ہوا ہوتا اور دوسروں پر انگلیاں اٹھاتے نہیں تھکتے!۔
                  مختصراً دوسرے تو ویسے ہی گئے گزرے ہیں یہاں مگر تم سے یہ امید نہیں تھی!۔
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                  یے کیا اولٹی سیدی باتے کر رہی ہو.
                  و کمینا پشتون پر کیچڑاوٹا رہا ہے
                  و سوات کو ہیرا منڈیی کے ترہا پیش کرتا ہے .
                  تم کو کیا یے اچہا لگتا ہے؟
                  اردو مے کیوں لیکتے هو؟ ڈر لگتا ہے کیا؟

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                  • #10
                    i never thouht he was a pashtun,no surprise here.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arooj Khan View Post

                      بہت خوب! گریٹ ورک مروتہ!!!۔اچھے جا رہے ہو۔ایسے ہی دوسروں کی کردار کشی کرتے رہو۔بہت آگے جاؤ گے۔ ویسے آپ جیسے اور اس فورم کے اور بہت سارے "عظیم" تبصرہ نگار دنیا میں صرف اسی کام کے لیے تشریف لائے ہیں ۔ادب کی دنیا سے واقف ہیں؟ لیکن سیاست سے وقت ملے تب نا!!۔جناب ایسا شائد ہی ہوا ہو کہ
                      کسی ٖغیر عرب لکھاری نے کوئی عربی ناول لکھا تو اسے کہا جائے کہ تم کیوں عرب کلچر پر لکھتے ہو تم تو عجمی ہو!۔ایسا کب ہوا کہ کوئی انگریز ایشیائی تاریخ پر قلم اٹھائے اور اسے کہا گیا ہو کہ تم کیوں
                      ایشائی تاریخ پر قلم کشائی کرتے ہو تم تو ہم میں سے ہو ہی نہیں ؟ ایک فرنگی ہو!۔
                      مگر یہاں جانے کونسا غرور کا سودا سر میں سمایا ہے کہ فضولیات میں سر کھپائی کرتے ہیں ۔خود تو ادب کی دنیا سے کبھی گزر بھی نہیں ہوا ہوتا اور دوسروں پر انگلیاں اٹھاتے نہیں تھکتے!۔
                      مختصراً دوسرے تو ویسے ہی گئے گزرے ہیں یہاں مگر تم سے یہ امید نہیں تھی!۔
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                      Jinab-e-aala,

                      It doesn't matter at all if anyone's black, white, brown, Asian or a human being of any variety or an Arab. Everyone is welcome here.

                      However, we don't take too kindly to foreigners registering here, posing as Pashtuns and then causing rifts between the members of the community. We have had enough of that in the last 40 years.

                      And this is Pashtun forums. Urdu forums is that-a-way -->
                      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                      "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ډګروال View Post

                        یے کیا اولٹی سیدی باتے کر رہی ہو.
                        و کمینا پشتون پر کیچڑاوٹا رہا ہے
                        و سوات کو ہیرا منڈیی کے ترہا پیش کرتا ہے .
                        تم کو کیا یے اچہا لگتا ہے؟
                        اردو مے کیوں لیکتے هو؟ ڈر لگتا ہے کیا؟
                        If you are unable to get it that's not ma headache .... or if you are so willing to make others know it thn translate it yourself for them nd btw mind your business i'm not talking to you !!!!

                        If you want to kill somebody conquer his heart, then leave slowly and leave them between " Death and Madness"... !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                          Jinab-e-aala,

                          It doesn't matter at all if anyone's black, white, brown, Asian or a human being of any variety or an Arab. Everyone is welcome here.

                          However, we don't take too kindly to foreigners registering here, posing as Pashtuns and then causing rifts between the members of the community. We have had enough of that in the last 40 years.

                          And this is Pashtun forums. Urdu forums is that-a-way -->
                          So you Mr lewany if you claimed that ITS PASHTUN FORUMS thn just tell me which language you are using right now ?? I 'm damn sure its not pashto ryt !! taso ma sara sa kaar nishta che za kama language wayam poha shwy ....

                          If you want to kill somebody conquer his heart, then leave slowly and leave them between " Death and Madness"... !

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                          • #14

                            What he wants to be known as or what he is, happens to be none of my business. As for what he portrays us by in his book, never been a fan of non fiction (minus guides and manuels) and for this very reason, too. Any random person can infiltrate your thoughts and opinions with their own garbage and you would not be able to question it as often because its in fine print.



                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arooj Khan View Post
                              If you are unable to get it that's not ma headache .... or if you are so willing to make others know it thn translate it yourself for them nd btw mind your business i'm not talking to you !!!!
                              go defend that guy who portrays swat as a brothel somewhere else.
                              it is my business.

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