Should school be separated for boys and girls?

[Tjanaparh]

Should school education be separated for boys and girls? What do You think?

[Tjanaparh]

My answer woud be between the first two options! Ideally the first one and in a compromiss the second one!

[Nazar]

If you are talking about schools in Afghanistan; then my answer is YES. However, there can be a co-education system from the very Nursery and Primary grade up to the Middle School.

[Tjanaparh]

I mean generally Your opinion on what is right.
Does it change for the region You think about? And if yes, why?

[Tjanaparh]

IIf possible I would ask to add a multiple choice option for the Admins! I think i missed that or something else went wrong!

[Admin Khan]

Seperation is never the answer -- one way or another, they will find a way to mingle, if need be. Whether it be through MySpace, Facebook, or randomly calling numbers until a female picks up(this is what they did in Karachi). So I'd go with a no. School is meant to be a place to learn, and that includes how the opposite sex acts or behaves in an educational environment. A person with good intentions would know how to behave.

[کیش]

Absolutely!!!

They should be together up until 14 years old, than separate. Speaking from my HS, there was so many sex going around that it was not even funny. Afghan girls, Pakistani girls, they all get down.

Or at least bring back the permission to the teachers to whip

[randolph85]

yes, but within age limits. you are more likely to catch an std in hs and college than an education.

there, i just saved 20 pages of bickering.

[tor_khan]

Most the posts here have focussed on the increased girl-boy contact in coed and the affect this has on morality. There is not much I can say that will counter what people believe in, but I think we've missed the point about academia and the environments that boys and girls thrive/achieve best in.

I've worked in a number of different settings/countries as an educator and most my experience has been in coed - even when I worked for a school with an Islamic ethos. Most western Muslims, in fact have tended to opt for coed. In the eastern Muslim world, the trend is the other way - the systems tend to be single gender and I think people choose coed if that is available or what they believe in. Expect Muslim countries like Turkey or Algeria to go for coed.

For illustrative purposes, let me use the UK system as an example. Since the move towards more practical/project based forms of learning and examination especially from the 80s onwards, females have begun to reverse the earlier trend of being outperformed in schools by males. See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8085011.stm Whole scale studies into this have not been done as thoroughly in the US or Canada, but there is a recognition that this trend of male underachievement in schools is beginning to be noticed there too. http://www.cckm.ca/pdf/SSS%20Final%20Report.pdf The American Psychological Association also reports similar trends in the US. http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/edu/98/1/198/ Male underachievement is especially true in mixed education even through there tend to more opportunities for boys. Boys are turned off things like reading and formal academics and they don't achieve so well when compared to girls. Also see the UK publication by the Dept of Ed written in consultation with Cambridge University: https://www.education.gov.uk/publica...load/RR636.pdf

In boys' only schools boy's reading results are higher and so are their achievements in academic subjects, so the indication would be to address this point to reverse the trend of decreasing male achievement. This US study also makes the point http://www.eric.ed.gov/PDFS/ED508951.pdf

The studies here indicate that girls initially in fact do better at science subjects in schools, but then are not encouraged to pursue this further.

http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/pdf/pract...s/20072003.pdf

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/001...1/161194eo.pdf

All indications are that girls are more likely to opt for STEM based subjects (science, technology, engineering, math/s) if they are not in mixed groups. In particular the UNESCO study suggests that single sex environments motivate girls to achieve better in science and thus pursue this further at university.

The jury is out on whether mixed or coed is better socially for boys and girls, but in terms of learning and achievement, the various studies make for an interesting addition to this debate.

[Khostai]

The world is mixed. There is no giant wall that separates male and female. School is also a place where you learn how to comunicate and being social. If you never had any contact whith the other gender how are you gona behave on the workfield whith them. You gona feel really akward and that can affect your work.

[Pisho]

[QUOTE=tor_khan;632565]Most the posts here have focussed on the increased girl-boy contact in coed and the affect this has on morality. There is not much I can say that will counter what people believe in, but I think we've missed the point about academia and the environments that boys and girls thrive/achieve best in.

I've worked in a number of different settings/countries as an educator and most my experience has been in coed - even when I worked for a school with an Islamic ethos


I did not know u were an educator.. Very interesting points you have made here
But thinking of the people in afghanistan what is your opinion about that

Do you think in afghanistan its best to have mixed education or segregated?

Because in western countries that we live in everyone including me think that mixed is better and preffered by parents too

But i still agre with you.. There is an all boys university here and it seems for males its better when they are separate... But then again due to segregation the population of the homosexual males has increased in the university.. I dont have an article or anything to back me up but i have been noticing a trend...

[Admin Khan]

yes, but within age limits. you are more likely to catch an std in hs and college than an education.

there, i just saved 20 pages of bickering.

Yeah, but haven't you noticed that in those countries where schools aren't co-ed, they catch that very same STD in other locations? The way I look at it Randolph Khan is school is a place to learn, and it would suck to be in an environment where you might wonder "What would a female perspective on this matter be?" I think if there is mutual respect, along with good intentions, then there should be no problem.

[IamDZJ]

The thing is children stop listening to their parents when they are in High School. And this is the age of puberty, where the child get hormones they never knew existed. It's ideal to keep them separated only during their high school years. In my honest opinion.

Children stop listening to parents when the parents become too lazy to explain the rules to their children rather than demanding that their children follow them. It's bad enough for children at that age as it is, a parent's insensitivity or lack of respect for their child doesn't do much to help either.

[Friend]

Yeah, but haven't you noticed that in those countries where schools aren't co-ed, they catch that very same STD in other locations? The way I look at it Randolph Khan is school is a place to learn, and it would suck to be in an environment where you might wonder "What would a female perspective on this matter be?" I think if there is mutual respect, along with good intentions, then there should be no problem.

The mutual respect that you are talking about actually does not exists, if it were so then what was the problem ?
Allah has created this machine (human being) and he knows the best about its psychy, physic and mentality.

[کیش]

Children stop listening to parents when the parents become too lazy to explain the rules to their children rather than demanding that their children follow them. It's bad enough for children at that age as it is, a parent's insensitivity or lack of respect for their child doesn't do much to help either.

I think your under estimating the difficulties in raising Muslim children in the west. As the days go, parents continue to lose rights on how to raise their children. Children are promoted to call authorities on their parents even if they lecture them in a "annoying" way.

My experiences say separate them during the High School years. I attended both High schools in an urban and suburban settings. The latter is worser than the former, in terms of sexuality and drugs.