Should school be separated for boys and girls?

[Admin Khan]

The mutual respect that you are talking about actually does not exists, if it were so then what was the problem ?
Allah has created this machine (human being) and he knows the best about its psychy, physic and mentality.

It probably doesn't exist in your eyes, which is perfectly fine since your entitled to your own opinion.

The DoE of the USA did the most extensive review in the world on this, where hundreds of sources, from all over the world, were scrutinized:

http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/eval/other/single-sex/single-sex.pdf

[Toramana]

I think positive correlation between academic achievement and single-sex or mix education has not been conclusively established yet. Things seem to be dependent more on individual ability and social background than the particular mode of education. Below is an interesting study.

Overall Assessment

While gender composition is one of the most obvious features of a school, and has attracted a lot of research, it is not necessarily an important factor in a school’s success, however judged. Indeed the evidence seems to suggest otherwise. The main determinants of a schools’ performance are the ability and social background of the pupils. It is only after these have been taken into account that school factors such as leadership and teacher expertise come into play. The gender mix is only one of the school factors and its effects, if any, are usually not strong enough to be detected by the
methods of educational research. Whether to mix or separate the sexes in education is an issue which arouses strong feelings, but on which there is little conclusive evidence.

Herein lies the paradox: people ‘know’ one or the other is better but cannot prove it. Ultimately, the shape of any educational system running on parental preferences will be settled by the market. The independent sector has to respond directly to parental choices and here single-sex education is contracting. The government is attempting to create a market in the maintained sector also, and it remains to be seen whether this
will lead to a change in the proportion of single-sex schools (currently about 12 per cent of the total). So far there has been no general clamour from parents for more, though there is a demand from particular parents, cultures and faiths. Most parents ...
seem to be looking for a good school regardless of its gender mix.

http://wordpress.buckingham.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/hmcsscd.pdf

[IamDZJ]

I think your under estimating the difficulties in raising Muslim children in the west. As the days go, parents continue to lose rights on how to raise their children. Children are promoted to call authorities on their parents even if they lecture them in a "annoying" way.

My experiences say separate them during the High School years. I attended both High schools in an urban and suburban settings. The latter is worser than the former, in terms of sexuality and drugs.

That is just disrespectful. That says that you don't trust your child and that you have zero faith in your parenting skills. You are insecure and paranoid. You will raise children who have been escorted to places all their lives ad lack the confidence to be out there in their own. Thy get married, drive their spouses crazy, have disasters for children and live miserably ever after.

[Khostai]

I think your under estimating the difficulties in raising Muslim children in the west. As the days go, parents continue to lose rights on how to raise their children. Children are promoted to call authorities on their parents even if they lecture them in a "annoying" way.

My experiences say separate them during the High School years. I attended both High schools in an urban and suburban settings. The latter is worser than the former, in terms of sexuality and drugs.

Meyebe you went to some ghetto school. And the drug and sex was more due to the problems at home, that being whith boys and girls in one school.
I went to mixed school and I have never had a classmate who used drugs, and becuase we also had many muslim children I also heard rarely about boys or girls having sex....

Most of the sex problems is due to backround. You can't expect from atheist teenagers who are 17 or 18 to not have sex, becuase in there culture having sex before marriage is normal, its even ecourage. Most of the Afghans and other muslim I know were still virgin at high school.
So by mixing boys and girls would be not that of a big deal. And by the way the whole hormons excuse is so overrated, you don't become an sexanimal ones you reach puberty -_-.

[Toramana]

It probably doesn't exist in your eyes, which is perfectly fine since your entitled to your own opinion.

The DoE of the USA did the most extensive review in the world on this, where hundreds of sources, from all over the world, were scrutinized:

http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/eval/oth...single-sex.pdf

I think this is the most comprehensive review of the research on SS and CE so far. The following conclusion from the review is interesting.

General Trends
A few trends are apparent across all outcomes. The preponderance of studies in areas such as academic accomplishment (both concurrent and long term) and adaptation or socioemotional development (both concurrent and long term) yields results ranging from supporting SS schooling to no differences between SS and CE schooling. A limited number of studies throughout the review provide evidence favoring CE schooling. It is more common to
come across studies that report no differences between SS and CE schooling than to find outcomes with support for the superiority of CE schooling. In terms of outcomes that may be of most interest to the primary stakeholders (students and their parents), such as academic achievement, self-concept, and long-term indicators of success, there is a degree of support for
SS schooling. The one outcome variable that might be of most concern to parents of high school females is eating disorders; however, the single study suggesting greater problems in SS schools must be replicated in the United States with a larger, more diverse population of subjects. Special
attention must be given to individual differences in this regard because conversely, Caspi’s work suggests that for some girls, delinquency is a greater concern in CE schools.

[Toramana]

Children stop listening to parents when the parents become too lazy to explain the rules to their children rather than demanding that their children follow them. It's bad enough for children at that age as it is, a parent's insensitivity or lack of respect for their child doesn't do much to help either.

Absolutely. Parents should explain it to kids instead and put trust in them. This will make them more responsible.

[tor_khan]

I did not know u were an educator.. Very interesting points you have made here
But thinking of the people in afghanistan what is your opinion about that

Do you think in afghanistan its best to have mixed education or segregated?

Because in western countries that we live in everyone including me think that mixed is better and preffered by parents too

But i still agre with you.. There is an all boys university here and it seems for males its better when they are separate... But then again due to segregation the population of the homosexual males has increased in the university.. I dont have an article or anything to back me up but i have been noticing a trend...

Pisho; I've worked as a teacher in primary and at high-school/adult ed level and as an advisor/consultant in several countries.

Across the world - education - moreso than a key service like healthcare - is viewed as a means of making a political point because schools are seen as factories for social manufacturing.

From a social point of view I understand the arguments for mixed teaching/learning. I think however we also need to consider that there is a growing body of research that points to inequity within systems that are supposed to promote equal and comprehensive education. Remember this is about increasing educational opportunity far all.

In Afghanistan I think coed works at some institutes at higher education level but to suggest that to the rural folk you would see a decline in attendance of girls at school.

[sunni]

Seperation is never the answer -- one way or another, they will find a way to mingle, if need be. Whether it be through MySpace, Facebook, or randomly calling numbers until a female picks up(this is what they did in Karachi). So I'd go with a no. School is meant to be a place to learn, and that includes how the opposite sex acts or behaves in an educational environment. A person with good intentions would know how to behave.

if it was never the answer then the prophet wouldnt have point out to seperate male's from female's.

aisha ra wouldnt have to hide her face and talk to them behind heejab(wall...etc) the sahaba were asking her about islamic studies NOT some Medicine or other studies...etc why there was an ayaa about it in quran?

with your logic, there is no needs to live anymore since death is coming and i will die anytime.
if there is a killer after me i shouldnt run away since runing isnt the sulation and im gona be dead today or tomorrow!! like fo real?

yes you are right about they woud have myspace....etc but that doesnt mean we should leave it to them! there are the same people in the west do the same things while they study togther!! you didnt solve nothing!!

they should be sepbareted and they shoul be teached the islamic morals and whats right and whats wrong! if they still gona do it then there is the amr bel almuaroof wa nahi a'an almunkar who would solve the problem!

im sure even if there was any land where only naked people should live...you will find this type of people who would do the same things while they are all NAKED. lool Oh in the west there are people they almost live naked! lol

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