Afghanistan Women - Must Watch

[faye]

i was in kandahar and herat, in 1977, and i saw nothing like on the video, there. the women wore burkhas in those places.

[Subhan]

i was in kandahar and herat, in 1977, and i saw nothing like on the video, there. the women wore burkhas in those places.

exactically.

[Breshna]

Question to the poster...so whats so sad? ....do you know the meaning of sad?.

Let me define what sad means...poverty...destruction..people dieing...illnesses..young

children starving...abused...girls raped...kidnapped...unjust murders accidents

disasters. Sad is that 15 year girl locked in a bathroom for six months.


Sad does not mean that once exposed...tree trunks are now covered.....

Here don't cry your self to sleep...kabul fashionback.jpg

[ufo973]

Buddy, Eastern culture is not backward

Western culture is where women experience sexism in all forms and are forced to wear tight and revealing clothing and raped when they walk outside by themselves

Many cases of fathers raping their daughters exist in the West

Child pornography and pedophilia are on the rise in the West with the US having the largest child porn industry

The problem is that pashtun people think they are the most pure and best of all muslims and think of us tajiks a less muslim and more close to westener society. Let me clear your minds

I have a friend from jilalabad whom i met in moscow. he escaped from one of the sophisticated jails in afghanistan where he was jailed for drugs dealing.
He told me that 93% of the people in the Jail were people who had INCEST (had sex with there mothers and sisters) and 5% of them were drug dealers and remaining 2% other crimes, A shocking story.

If this the situation in the 2nd capital of pashtuns "nangarhar" then think about other shamefull behaviors like gay sex of kandahar.

I had a neighbor in Pakistan who was from Paktia he was a moderat pashtun. he told me a story about his debate in paktia with people who were not allowing there daughters to go to school. He said that when i asked them that you are taking your females to male doctors for check up why don't you let your daughters to go to school and become doctors so you won't have problem? They didn't had any answer to reply...

I had livid 90% of my life with pashtuns and i know there mentality, they will not change atleast a couple of generations of them. So the only solution i think about Afghanistan is the solution which worked in the case of Germany and that is the "dissolution of Afghanistan" and i strongly support this.

And dont try to fool me by saying that there are some bad guys in the pashtuns and not all of them. They all have the same mentality. I give you one example here...

Show me any tajik doing this
stoning a woman and man for adultery afghanistan WARNING!!(full video very graphic) - YouTube


The problem is that pashtuns are proud of the so called pakhtunwali and we tajiks are ashamed of there acts and embraced in front of the world and we strongly belive in secularism.
And today as i seen in kabul the gap between pashtun and tajiks are getting wider and there is a strong difference in the culture, mentality and way of life in both societies.

PLEASE SUPPORT THE DISSOLUTION OF AFGHANISTAN FOR THE GOOD OF NEXT GENERATIONS.

NOTE: My intention is not to disrespect pashtuns but it is the fact about them and the worst part about them is as i spent most of my time with them and i know their mentality they never accept their problems and mistakes.

[Afghanistan2010]

Amnesty International

Tajikistan


Head of state
Emomali Rahmon Head of government
Okil Okilov Death penalty
abolitionist in practice
Population7.1 million
Life expectancy
67.3 years
Under-5 mortality (m/f)83/74 per 1,000
Adult literacy
99.7 per cent

• Torture and other ill-treatment
• Freedom of expression – journalists
• Violence against women
• Amnesty International Reports
• Amnesty International Visits

Torture and other ill-treatment continued. Freedom of expression remained restricted. The authorities failed to effectively prevent and prosecute violence against women and to protect survivors.







Torture and other ill-treatment


There were continued reports of torture and other ill-treatment by law enforcement officers. The common police practice of incommunicado detention before formally opening a criminal case increased the risk of torture and other ill-treatment. Confessions extracted under duress continued to be used as evidence in courts. Victims rarely reported physical abuse by law enforcement officers for fear of repercussions, and impunity remained the rule. Tajikistani human rights groups, lawyers and judges called on the government to include a precise definition of torture, in line with international standards, in national legislation.

• On 26 February, Nematillo Botakozuev, a Kyrgyzstani human rights defender, was detained by police in the Tajikistani capital, Dushanbe, after he had visited the office of the UNHCR, the UN refugee agency, to apply for refugee status. He was wanted by the Kyrgyzstani authorities for his alleged involvement in a demonstration in the town of Nookat in 2008. He was held incommunicado for almost a month and reportedly tortured at the premises of the State Committee for National Security. He was also reportedly denied appropriate medical treatment. On 22 May he was extradited to Kyrgyzstan and released by a court in the city of Osh.
• Ilhom Ismonov was detained on 3 November in Khujand in Soghd region and charged with “organizing a criminal group”. He was not brought before a judge until nine days later on 12 November, in contravention of the Tajikistani Criminal Procedure Code, which states that detainees must be brought before a judge to rule on their continued detention no later than 72 hours after their arrest. He was also denied access to his lawyer until he appeared in court. He reportedly told the judge that he had been given electric shocks and had boiling water poured over his body while held at the Department for the Fight against Organized Crime (6th Department) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Khujand. The judge reportedly did not address the torture allegations. In December, the Prosecutor’s office of Soghd region informed Ilhom Ismonov’s wife and lawyer that its examination of the case had shown that the allegations of torture were false, that he had not been unlawfully detained, and that there had been no problem with his access to a lawyer. No details were given on how the examination was conducted.

Freedom of expression – journalists

Tajikistani and international human rights groups reported that independent media outlets and journalists continued to face criminal and civil law suits for criticizing the government. Pressure on the media increased particularly in the run-up to the parliamentary elections in February and in the aftermath of the September ambush in Rasht district by alleged Islamist militants and former opposition commanders, in which 28 government troops were killed. In September and October the websites of local news agencies and an opposition blog were allegedly blocked by the authorities, and tax inspections allegedly targeted media outlets that had been critical of the authorities in connection with the Rasht events.


Violence against women

Violence against women remained a serious problem; between one third and half of all women have suffered physical, psychological or sexual violence at the hands of their husbands or other family members at some time during their lives. Despite some initial steps by the government to combat violence against women – such as the establishment of five police stations with specially trained police officers – Tajikistan continued to fall short of its international obligations to protect women from violence in the family. Women’s access to the criminal justice system was still very restricted with inadequate police and judicial response, resulting in massive under-reporting. There were insufficient services to protect the survivors of domestic violence, such as shelters and adequate and safe alternative housing. There was still no functioning nationwide cross-referral system between health workers, crisis and legal aid centres, law enforcement agencies and others for survivors of domestic violence. The draft law “Social and legal protection from domestic violence” – in preparation for several years – had still not been presented to parliament.

[graveyardofempires]

The problem is that pashtun people think they are the most pure and best of all muslims and think of us tajiks a less muslim and more close to westener society. Let me clear your minds

I have a friend from jilalabad whom i met in moscow. he escaped from one of the sophisticated jails in afghanistan where he was jailed for drugs dealing.
He told me that 93% of the people in the Jail were people who had INCEST (had sex with there mothers and sisters) and 5% of them were drug dealers and remaining 2% other crimes, A shocking story.

If this the situation in the 2nd capital of pashtuns "nangarhar" then think about other shamefull behaviors like gay sex of kandahar.

I had a neighbor in Pakistan who was from Paktia he was a moderat pashtun. he told me a story about his debate in paktia with people who were not allowing there daughters to go to school. He said that when i asked them that you are taking your females to male doctors for check up why don't you let your daughters to go to school and become doctors so you won't have problem? They didn't had any answer to reply...

I had livid 90% of my life with pashtuns and i know there mentality, they will not change atleast a couple of generations of them. So the only solution i think about Afghanistan is the solution which worked in the case of Germany and that is the "dissolution of Afghanistan" and i strongly support this.

And dont try to fool me by saying that there are some bad guys in the pashtuns and not all of them. They all have the same mentality. I give you one example here...

Show me any tajik doing this
stoning a woman and man for adultery afghanistan WARNING!!(full video very graphic) - YouTube


The problem is that pashtuns are proud of the so called pakhtunwali and we tajiks are ashamed of there acts and embraced in front of the world and we strongly belive in secularism.
And today as i seen in kabul the gap between pashtun and tajiks are getting wider and there is a strong difference in the culture, mentality and way of life in both societies.

PLEASE SUPPORT THE DISSOLUTION OF AFGHANISTAN FOR THE GOOD OF NEXT GENERATIONS.

NOTE: My intention is not to disrespect pashtuns but it is the fact about them and the worst part about them is as i spent most of my time with them and i know their mentality they never accept their problems and mistakes.

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[Khostai]

The problem is that pashtun people think they are the most pure and best of all muslims and think of us tajiks a less muslim and more close to westener society. Let me clear your minds

I have a friend from jilalabad whom i met in moscow. he escaped from one of the sophisticated jails in afghanistan where he was jailed for drugs dealing.
He told me that 93% of the people in the Jail were people who had INCEST (had sex with there mothers and sisters) and 5% of them were drug dealers and remaining 2% other crimes, A shocking story.

If this the situation in the 2nd capital of pashtuns "nangarhar" then think about other shamefull behaviors like gay sex of kandahar.

I had a neighbor in Pakistan who was from Paktia he was a moderat pashtun. he told me a story about his debate in paktia with people who were not allowing there daughters to go to school. He said that when i asked them that you are taking your females to male doctors for check up why don't you let your daughters to go to school and become doctors so you won't have problem? They didn't had any answer to reply...

I had livid 90% of my life with pashtuns and i know there mentality, they will not change atleast a couple of generations of them. So the only solution i think about Afghanistan is the solution which worked in the case of Germany and that is the "dissolution of Afghanistan" and i strongly support this.

And dont try to fool me by saying that there are some bad guys in the pashtuns and not all of them. They all have the same mentality. I give you one example here...

Show me any tajik doing this
stoning a woman and man for adultery afghanistan WARNING!!(full video very graphic) - YouTube


The problem is that pashtuns are proud of the so called pakhtunwali and we tajiks are ashamed of there acts and embraced in front of the world and we strongly belive in secularism.
And today as i seen in kabul the gap between pashtun and tajiks are getting wider and there is a strong difference in the culture, mentality and way of life in both societies.

PLEASE SUPPORT THE DISSOLUTION OF AFGHANISTAN FOR THE GOOD OF NEXT GENERATIONS.

NOTE: My intention is not to disrespect pashtuns but it is the fact about them and the worst part about them is as i spent most of my time with them and i know their mentality they never accept their problems and mistakes.

OKe so you are a tajik. If I could remember there is nation, its a neighbour to Afghanistan and its called TAJIKISTAN so pack you backs take your men and women and immigrate to your country and leave Afghanistan to us Pashtuns.
Dissolution my asss. Who the hell do you think you are and baacha bazi comes from you tajiks and other persian peopel. You are the bigest gays of Asia. And since when are tajiks secular? Since the begining of Afghan state tajiks where the ones who strongly opposed modernesation and development in Afghanistan, think about baacha-e-saqw and the Herat uprising. Tajiks are the most backward and iliterate peopel in Afghanistan. And for you information all the literature that is writen in farsi is from Iran. The reason that farsi is so widley used in Afghanistan is becuase the persians of Iran wroted them and not tajiks. Thinking about superiority complex, just visite a psychologist oke, or do us a favour and just kill your self.

[ufo973]

OKe so you are a tajik. If I could remember there is nation, its a neighbour to Afghanistan and its called TAJIKISTAN so pack you backs take your men and women and immigrate to your country and leave Afghanistan to us Pashtuns.

This is what happens when pashtuns stop sending their kids to school.
We should go to Tajikistan? Ok but if you promise that...
Pashtuns will go back to their homeland Isreal.
And 90% of americans who were immigrants from europe go back to europe because historically native indians are the inhabitants of america.
And 60% of Pakistanis go back to pakistan who immigrated after seperation of the Great India.
And ..... there are millions of examples but I won't spam the thread.

Dissolution my asss. Who the hell do you think you are and baacha bazi comes from you tajiks and other persian peopel. You are the bigest gays of Asia.

Oops! you disrespected Kandaharis

Tajiks are the most backward and iliterate peopel in Afghanistan.

Yes Comeon comeone! go on! you are proving my every word about pashtuns here and thanks about it.

[graveyardofempires]

Which "sophisticated" jail was this?

and was 93% his exact figure?

he pulled that story out of his hat.
just like our soldout amir sahib.

they are two sides of the anti pashtun coin.

[Soldat_Amir]

Women should wear what they please secondly if had the Mullahs been stopped Afghanistan would have been a more modern society instead of a backward hell hole where girls young as 8 are married off to men over 60.

Sad isnt it................Why are the male members so against Afghan women wearing what they want you dont own their bodies, and to be honest, if a Afghan women asked you for your monthly wage, you would probably tell her to get lost.

Stop pretending to care, mind your damme business, you have no right to insult Afghan women regardless of their style of clothing, Yes I find mini skirts revolting but hey who said I would prefer them to be locked in a Burqa!

[Soldat_Amir]

This is what happens when pashtuns stop sending their kids to school.
We should go to Tajikistan? Ok but if you promise that...
Pashtuns will go back to their homeland Isreal.
And 90% of americans who were immigrants from europe go back to europe because historically native indians are the inhabitants of america.
And 60% of Pakistanis go back to pakistan who immigrated after seperation of the Great India.
And ..... there are millions of examples but I won't spam the thread.




Oops! you disrespected Kandaharis



Yes Comeon comeone! go on! you are proving my every word about pashtuns here and thanks about it.

Listen my Tajik friend there is no point in fighting on here. If you want a sensible discussion about Afghanistan just add me on facebook and we can talk like mature men.

Not all Pashtuns are as radical as you think, we are just as nice and sincere as most Tajiks are, yes you have the odd fanatic there and then but who says the Tajiks are immune to this, I am sure Rabbani and Ahmad Shah were both once supproters of the Islami Jamiet led by the ISI.

Lets be friends and don't let others make you say things you dont want to say.

As for the Israel comment, rest assured I have friends who have done DNA studies on Pashtun people in Afghanistan, and not single one of them came out as having any roots or origins from Israel as a matter of fact it was the Persians who intermingled with them and brought them to safety under the leadership of Cyrus the Great not the Pashtuns.

I hope you accept the offer of friendship and avoid putting yourself into silly discussions.

[Soldat_Amir]

Amnesty International

Tajikistan


Head of state
Emomali Rahmon Head of government
Okil Okilov Death penalty
abolitionist in practice
Population7.1 million
Life expectancy
67.3 years
Under-5 mortality (m/f)83/74 per 1,000
Adult literacy
99.7 per cent

• Torture and other ill-treatment
• Freedom of expression – journalists
• Violence against women
• Amnesty International Reports
• Amnesty International Visits

Torture and other ill-treatment continued. Freedom of expression remained restricted. The authorities failed to effectively prevent and prosecute violence against women and to protect survivors.







Torture and other ill-treatment



There were continued reports of torture and other ill-treatment by law enforcement officers. The common police practice of incommunicado detention before formally opening a criminal case increased the risk of torture and other ill-treatment. Confessions extracted under duress continued to be used as evidence in courts. Victims rarely reported physical abuse by law enforcement officers for fear of repercussions, and impunity remained the rule. Tajikistani human rights groups, lawyers and judges called on the government to include a precise definition of torture, in line with international standards, in national legislation.

• On 26 February, Nematillo Botakozuev, a Kyrgyzstani human rights defender, was detained by police in the Tajikistani capital, Dushanbe, after he had visited the office of the UNHCR, the UN refugee agency, to apply for refugee status. He was wanted by the Kyrgyzstani authorities for his alleged involvement in a demonstration in the town of Nookat in 2008. He was held incommunicado for almost a month and reportedly tortured at the premises of the State Committee for National Security. He was also reportedly denied appropriate medical treatment. On 22 May he was extradited to Kyrgyzstan and released by a court in the city of Osh.
• Ilhom Ismonov was detained on 3 November in Khujand in Soghd region and charged with “organizing a criminal group”. He was not brought before a judge until nine days later on 12 November, in contravention of the Tajikistani Criminal Procedure Code, which states that detainees must be brought before a judge to rule on their continued detention no later than 72 hours after their arrest. He was also denied access to his lawyer until he appeared in court. He reportedly told the judge that he had been given electric shocks and had boiling water poured over his body while held at the Department for the Fight against Organized Crime (6th Department) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Khujand. The judge reportedly did not address the torture allegations. In December, the Prosecutor’s office of Soghd region informed Ilhom Ismonov’s wife and lawyer that its examination of the case had shown that the allegations of torture were false, that he had not been unlawfully detained, and that there had been no problem with his access to a lawyer. No details were given on how the examination was conducted.

Freedom of expression – journalists

Tajikistani and international human rights groups reported that independent media outlets and journalists continued to face criminal and civil law suits for criticizing the government. Pressure on the media increased particularly in the run-up to the parliamentary elections in February and in the aftermath of the September ambush in Rasht district by alleged Islamist militants and former opposition commanders, in which 28 government troops were killed. In September and October the websites of local news agencies and an opposition blog were allegedly blocked by the authorities, and tax inspections allegedly targeted media outlets that had been critical of the authorities in connection with the Rasht events.


Violence against women

Violence against women remained a serious problem; between one third and half of all women have suffered physical, psychological or sexual violence at the hands of their husbands or other family members at some time during their lives. Despite some initial steps by the government to combat violence against women – such as the establishment of five police stations with specially trained police officers – Tajikistan continued to fall short of its international obligations to protect women from violence in the family. Women’s access to the criminal justice system was still very restricted with inadequate police and judicial response, resulting in massive under-reporting. There were insufficient services to protect the survivors of domestic violence, such as shelters and adequate and safe alternative housing. There was still no functioning nationwide cross-referral system between health workers, crisis and legal aid centres, law enforcement agencies and others for survivors of domestic violence. The draft law “Social and legal protection from domestic violence” – in preparation for several years – had still not been presented to parliament.

You should be the last to talk about rights abuses, how many Hazaras did your Talib bhais raped and murdered? how many innocent Pashtun tribal elders have your Talib Bhais beheaded and assinated in Waziristan, what about the number of women in Swat who were hung because they refused to marry a Talib?

You should be the very last person to be complaining of others rights being abused

Look at the Taliban first before you make such deluded comments.

Your Talibs stoned a preg woman to death, your Talibs stoned a couple to death and then shot them in the end, you guys are a bunch of hypocritical cowards

[Afghanistan2010]

This is what happens when pashtuns stop sending their kids to school.
We should go to Tajikistan? Ok but if you promise that...
Pashtuns will go back to their homeland Isreal.
And 90% of americans who were immigrants from europe go back to europe because historically native indians are the inhabitants of america.
And 60% of Pakistanis go back to pakistan who immigrated after seperation of the Great India.
And ..... there are millions of examples but I won't spam the thread.




Oops! you disrespected Kandaharis



Yes Comeon comeone! go on! you are proving my every word about pashtuns here and thanks about it.

Clearly

Tajiks are enjoying the joys of Bachabazi its their word ;-) sweetheart

Religious Psychosis - Dancing Boys (Bacha Bazi) 1 of 2 - YouTube

Bacha bazi - YouTube


Bacha bazi in Northern Afghanistan (Mazar-e-sharif) Shamali culture - YouTube

Bacha bazi in Northern Afghanistan (Mazar-e-sharif) Shamali culture

[badmash_khel]

^
way to go, stoop down to their level. By their I don't mean tajiks/farsiwans but idiots and trolls. each nation has them. stick to islamic principles and don't answer an insult with an insult. Thats not sunnah.

[Michin Khel]

Why most of the anti-pashtun videos in youtube videos are uploaded by tajiks? They even fake themeselves as punjabis.
I dont want to generalize tajiks on the basis of e-world, what kind of people are tajiks in real life?